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      Proud to be an American... wait, that's not a country.... ?

      What do you call yourself if you live in the USA?

      Generally we say "I'm an American"... but anyone can say that who lives in Mexico, Canada, Argentina, Brazil, ANY country in South America. America is a pair of continents.

      You can't really say "I'm a USer". "I'm a United Statesian"? No. Just no.

      You pretty much have to just say "I live in the USA" or "I'm a citizen of the USA" or "A US citizen". It's a mouthful, and comes out a bit awkward. It's just not the same as being able to say "I'm an __________ (fill in blank)".

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      Here in Brazil, there is a rise on the use of "estadounidense', which would be like united-statian. I don't see that working in English, though.
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      No... not at all.

      You can call yourself a Brazilian AND an American. It's just not fair!! Do Brazilians ever refer to themselves as Americans? Or maybe South Americans?

      I guess what I'm getting at... if someone in your country calls himself an American, is it assumed they're from the US?
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      Quote Originally Posted by Kromoh View Post
      Here in Brazil, there is a rise on the use of "estadounidense', which would be like united-statian. I don't see that working in English, though.
      Hehe I say that in French, États-Unien.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Darkmatters View Post
      I guess what I'm getting at... if someone in your country calls himself an American, is it assumed they're from the US?
      Bingo.
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      Ok thanks. Still sucks though... it's not even really the name of our own COUNTRY!!!

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      Quote Originally Posted by Darkmatters View Post
      Ok thanks. Still sucks though... it's not even really the name of our own COUNTRY!!!
      I mean, think of it. Your country doesn't even have a name. United. States. America. Come on, I thought puritans were more creative.
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      Apparently not.

      I propose we start pronouncing it phonetically. Say it with me...


      "Oooo-sa".

      Ok, no.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Darkmatters View Post
      "Oooo-sa".

      Ok, no.
      I kinda like it, Ooosan.
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      Your country is called the United States of America.

      Take and abbreviate whichever part of it you like.

      American dog.

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      Ruff ruff!

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      Quote Originally Posted by Siиdяed View Post
      American dog.
      That's wolf to you sonny jim

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      First off calling yourself an American is fine. Every one knows an American is from the USA. Ever read the name, the United States of AMERICA. America is the name of our country. We are the United States of America. People call us Americans because we are from America.

      No one introduces themself by the continent they live in. "What are you? I am an american from canada." Who says that? No one does.

      If you want to be picky about it though, you simply use your state. New Yorker, Nevadan, Mississippian.

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      Dog, wolf...it all looks the same to a goddamn lion.

      Regardless of what you try and call yourselves, the rest of the world will still regard you as dickheads, unfortunately. Is a shame, I know, but eh.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Siиdяed View Post

      Dog, wolf...it all looks the same to a goddamn lion.

      Regardless of what you try and call yourselves, the rest of the world will still regard you as dickheads, unfortunately. Is a shame, I know, but eh.
      pussy, lion,
      it all look the same to an EAGLE.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Alric View Post
      First off calling yourself an American is fine. Every one knows an American is from the USA.
      Yes, they do. That doesn't make it right, though. People just accept it, but dislike it.

      Ever read the name, the United States of AMERICA.
      Yes, it's called that way because your country is located in the continent America.

      America is the name of our country.
      No, it's United States of America, just like United Arabic Emirates.

      People call us Americans because we are from America.
      People call you Americans because you call yourselves Americans.

      No one introduces themself by the continent they live in. "What are you? I am an american from canada." Who says that? No one does.
      Yes, noone does. That doesn't justify the problem at hand, though.

      If you want to be picky about it though, you simply use your state. New Yorker, Nevadan, Mississippian.
      I'm a Sao Paulian. I bet you don't know what that is.. Sao Paulo is a state of Brazil, just like Parana, Bahia, Pernambuco, Rio de Janeiro, Rio Grande do Norte, Rio Grande do Sul, Amazonas... Well you get the point. You're not forced to know the names of my states, why am I forced to know yours?
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      Quote Originally Posted by Alric View Post
      People call us Americans because we are from America.
      I understand what you're saying, but essentially it just bugs me that when we say we're Americans it really isn't a unique designation of a country. Canadians are Americans... so are Mexicans.

      It's like if you lived in France but let's say France was just called The United Colonies of Europe because when it was settled the settlers were arrogant self-absorbed dickheads and didn't think the rest of the Europeans amounted to anything. So instead of calling themselves French they'd have to say they're... what? Europeans? European Colonials?

      The rest of the world ACCEPTS that when we call ourselves Americans we're referring to the US, but it's still really an entire continent... two of them in fact.

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      If you live on the North American continent, you are North American.

      If you live on the South American continent, you are South American.

      If you live in the United States of America, you are American.

      Makes enough sense for my level of caring. I don't see why it matters. Besides, groups of people are named by whatever most people wish to call them. It doesn't matter so long as it is understood what group is being referred to.

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      it all look the same to an EAGLE.
      It all look the same to an Eagle.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Siиdяed View Post


      Dog, wolf...it all looks the same to a goddamn lion.

      Regardless of what you try and call yourselves, the rest of the world will still regard you as dickheads, unfortunately. Is a shame, I know, but eh.
      He calls it likes he sees it


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      Go Canada!!!

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      lol, nice Spart, though the eagle swooping down over that beaver looks kind of scary.

      "MementoMori, the lucid machine"

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      Quote Originally Posted by MementoMori View Post
      lol, nice Spart, though the eagle swooping down over that beaver looks kind of scary.
      The beaver changes the region's hydrographic basin by altering water flow with dams, destroying the eagle's natural habitat.

      Check mate.

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      Eagle eats beaver. Take it how you will.

      Czech, mate.

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      Hang on a sec, they all call themeselves american? I thought it was really by the name of the country in the first place that you went by. Canada, calls themeselves canadian. Brazil call themeselves Brazillian? ;p. Mexico call themeselves Mexican.

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      Yes. And they all live in America.

      There are a lot of Europeans: Germans, Danes, Swiss etc.

      There are also a lot of Americans: Canadians, Mexicans, Argentines, and... um... Americans? US citizens?

      Do you begin to see the issue? America does not designate a COUNTRY... it's a freakin' CONTINENT!

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