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    Thread: Trying galantamine + choline tonight with the wbtb tec first time !

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      Cool Trying galantamine + choline tonight with the wbtb tec first time !

      Ok

      So I have just taken 2 mg of melatonin and 100mg of l-theanine ,going to bed after this post ,will be waking after 5hours and taking 4mg of galantamine and 200 mg of choline , then doing 20 minutes of relaxation meditation then going back to sleep.
      Was going to start with 8mg but thought it would be best to start with the lower dose just to see how my body reacts to it.
      Will post my results in the morning .
      Wish me luck!

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      I am curious how that works out for you. Always go with a lower dose first. You may not need 8MG. 2-4 has worked well for me. Good luck.
      Last edited by Xanous; 02-14-2013 at 01:56 AM. Reason: I read the post wrong. MY BAD!

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      Xanous, I think you misintepreted... take another look at what he wrote.

      @Kurticide, good luck man!! Sounds like you're doing it right!

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      Quote Originally Posted by Kurticide View Post
      Ok

      So I have just taken 2 mg of melatonin ...
      I think Yuschak says, that too much melatonin may hamper LD attempt. He recommends 0.3 mgs, no more. Not sure if you have any melatonin left in your system after 5 hours.

      And about GM attempt - don't get discouraged if it won't work on first try. It took me couple of tries to figure out the best time for me. Good luck

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      ^^ Good call Gab!! I totally missed that!! Absolutely, 2mg might mess up your attempt. Though possibly by the time you do your WBTB you might be past it's effects and into REM rebound (I only say this to offer hope for tonight's attempt - next time cut that pill up into like 10 pieces).

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      @Darkmatters. I fixed it. LOL.

      @Gab. Actually I think the prebed melatonin is fine. He suggest 5-HTP prebed which is a REM suppressant. I'd have to look it up but I think the half-lives on both are actually pretty fast.

      It's the melatonin with the Galantamine dose that is the problem. I've actually done ok taking G and high doses of melatonin together but I definitely notice the difference with out it. Valerian Root seems pretty good to stop the insomnia.

      Sorry I've just been studying up on this lately with my own trials.
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      Ah you guys were right , had a pretty vivid dream but no lucidity , not to worry I am a persistent one , I will cut the melatonin into smaller pieces next time like gab said .
      Will be trying again tonight then having a break due to tolerances I have read about galantamine ,
      Thanks for all the reply's.
      Take care
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      Yeah, don't take it every day. Give at least 2-3 days inbetween. If you want, take piracetam. That should stop GM's effect on your system and help prevent desensitization.

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      I've restricted mine to one night a week with good results. Of course, I may be a little on the conservative side, but I also I opted not to take piracetam.
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      Is it that bad to take it two days in a row and then stop for a week? or should you really only have it once every 2-4 days?

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      I've done back to back nights and failed. Really every 4 - 7 days is best. You'll build a tolerance to it if you don't pace yourself. And even still you may build tolerance if you do it regularly. You'll just have to do what you think is best for you.
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      Had a lucid dream
      It was a SILD , it was a girl I used to date that I haven't seen in years and we were sat on a beach cuddling and ....well il leave that for your imagination , when all a sudden it hit me wait a sec , I don't see this girl anymore , wow I must be having a lucid dream , I jumped to see if I was and long behold I didn't fall back down I just started floating lmao. I must of got a little bit over exited as the dream world began to collapse and I woke up .
      Next time ill have to remember to spin or focus on something to keep the dream world stable .
      Anyway it's progress
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      With Galantamine or no?

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      Yeah did the same combo , only differance was instead of using melatonin as a rem surpresent I used 100 mg of 5htp.

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      Oh cool yeah the 5-htp is best for that

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