Me: Ultimate Way For OBEs On Command ??? Subcon.: Potato =D - Any idea what this means guys?

I had a goal in mind , Use OBEs to figure out how to become real good at OBEs , And to do that , I decided I would ask this question , What is the ultimate way for "Me" to do OBEs on command ??

This was an interesting question

Back in the days when it was really hard for me to do it because I didn't have real good techniques to work with and no foundations , I actually once tried something like that , And what happened is that I had a dream , That a guy with a cart gave me a pill and told to just try it and it will work in making me get there .

Of course I didn't understand what was this pill , I've came on to realize later , That it's some form of Placebo or to create an subconciously made creation and intend that it does just that and try it out , Which actually works sometimes .

Anyway back to now .

First OBE :
So I slept at 12 and I woke up at 7 and I decided okay I' gonna try to do this now .

So I sleep on my back for long and most of my body falls asleep and I get all numb using awareness and some sleep breathing , And then nothing happens and I feel I'm going no where and I feel the urge to move because it's been like long and nothing is happening (Now I realize that this could have been the SP Roll-urge) .

So I move anyway and sleep on my right side .

I think I lose consciousness and I wake without movement and I find I'having some vibrations all over, Partial , I sleep breathe some more (Even though I didn't record so I'm not perfectly sure what is the best so I'm still experimenting) and then I do some of these slight muscle twitching to make the paralysis full .

And I then roll out of my body (First time I roll out while lying on my right) .

I get out and it's WAY TOO REAL , I have to make sure that it's an OBE , Pull finger , And it's rubbery again LOL , Fantastic four =D .


I AGAIN find myself at my old house , I wonder why that constantly happens .

Then I go fast through the bathroom door to look at the mirror and remember that I had another goal , the question , And I wanted to fly for a little bit .

So I walk float fast through the door and through the balcony door and float up and I find that it's still at night even though it's supposed to be in the morning , And my whole vision had an indigo tinge to it somehow .

I then fly out for a little bit enjoying myself .



And then suddenly it's like the subconcious for 5 seconds takes control .

I find like I'm watching someone running and moving around and my brother is playing a video game and it's like this video game character is me and I can watch it as my brother plays with it in my home town .

And then I say NO , I'm gonna take control , And tell my bro so , And Then I'm in control of my body and in it again (Weird LOL) .

I was still flying so I decided now go down and walk so you could ask the question , After I did that and was walking around so fluidly .

And then , I decide okay time for that big question .

And so I ask the question , The question was already setup in my mind , So I only thought about it .

And I look to my right ?!!

And I find a BIG POTATO falling from the sky , Like this size :

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And I'm like WTF is that supposed to mean .

So I decide okay , Lets ask it again as I go closer to the first potato .

Another potato falls from the sky .

And I ask it again and another falls from the sky .

And I'm like great , So this means that this is really the answer for the question hmmm , Not so sure .

So I go around and keep asking the question as I move to the wall of an entrance of a building infront of my home building .

And I go close to the wall as another potato falls near me as an answer (This time though it has this army greenish color over it for a bit ) .

And I then intend that answer for the question will be drawn on the wall in this small area between both of my fingers (Not very big) .

And AGAIN , A potato is drawn on the wall and it's like animated for a bit as if it's falling =D .

And then I go back to my body .

I go back and find myself not in vibrations and couldn't go back .

GUYS , Anyone have an idea , What does a falling BIG POTATO would have to do with having OBEs on command , Or how to decipher this message , I have no idea , Am I supposed to try to visualize it for example or what ?


Thanks

A

Alright this is actually very interesting , I've been researching the effect of potato on sleeping & dreaming and I've found some great insights , Here are some :

From this website by an author who wrote a book called "Potatoes not Prozac" :

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Here are some interesting quotes from the Q&A :



What is the potato doing for my neurochemistry?

The potato creates an insulin response which has an effect on the movement of the amino acid tryptophan from your blood into your brain.

Please explain what this whole serotonin/tryptophan/potato connection is, in layman terms please.

Your body uses tryptophan to make serotonin. Serotonin is the brain chemical that makes you feel mellow and happy. It also helps you to 'just say no' by putting the brakes on your impulsivity.

Tryptophan is a kind of amino acid, which comes from protein. When you eat protein foods (meats, cheese, eggs, birds, etc.), it is broken down into amino acids. They go into your blood stream and try to get into the brain as "brain food". Tryptophan is a little runty amino acid. The other amino acids compete with him and won't let him get across into the brain.

When you eat a food that causes an insulin reaction, the insulin goes and gets the 'big' aminos and takes them to the muscles to be used as muscle food. The muscles don't really care about the runt so he stays behind. When he is left behind after the big guys go to the muscles, he hops into the brain and sacrifices himself to the serotonin factory. And your serotonin levels rise. So we want you to eat protein and then 3 hours later have something to raise your insulin level. A potato seems like a better alternative than a candy bar.

If you have had good protein at dinner three hours earlier, it is likely that a BIG potato will stoke you more. However seeking a bigger hit is not the aim of the potato task. Bigger protein amounts and larger potatoes are not the goal. A 'hit' of serotonin that is too much may cause you nightmares, and give you a hangover. This is definitely not a 'more is better thing'. You're just after a good night's sleep and a gentle rise of your overall serotonin level.

Why do I have weird dreams since I started eating the potato?

The potato is actually increasing your serotonin levels. Serotonin levels are directly related to REM sleep and dreaming. These changes in dreams mean spud is working.

Does It Have To Be A Potato

Does the "potato" have to be a potato? As a college student, let's say it's not convenient to have potatoes in my dorm room and finding ways to cook them.

The potato is ideal. The potato is high in potassium which enhances it effect. This is why I called the book Potatoes Not Prozac rather than Apples Not Prozac. Potatoes are a very good comfort food. Think as spud as number one. If you simply can't do spud, here are some good alternatives.

Baked sweet potatoes with butter, cinnamon & nutmeg
Brown rice with butter, cinnamon & nutmeg
Oatmeal
Oven-fried sweet spuds (again skinless)
Skin-on sugarfree potato salad
Brown rice cakes

How much potato should I eat in the evening?

Let your body decide. There will be many variables that will affect this choice. If you're hungry, eat a big one. If you are a little person, have a small one. Pay attention to the effect and adjust the size to get the results you want. Most of us use a small to medium size red, Yukon Gold or Russet.

Should I leave the skin on or can I eat the potato w/o the skin?

It's always better with the skin on since the fiber slows down the glycemic rate.

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Have a potato (with its skin) every night three hours after dinner. It will help your body raise your serotonin level and make you feel more confident, competent, creative and optimistic.

If you find that you are having wild dreams on the nights you have your potato, this is a clue that you have low serotonin. This means you are getting a bigger hit of serotonin than you want right yet. The bigger hit means your levels are very low. You need the serotonin, but it is better to go more slowly. Ease into it and let your brain catch up. Have a smaller potato, or eat just a half or even a third of it. Your body is talking to you. Listen.




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Okay that's one website , There's another saying the same related to Lucid Dreaming :

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I thought you might enjoy learning that the humble potato can help enhance lucid dreaming.

If you eat your evening meal with a form of protein in it, then eat a jacket potato (with its skin) three hours after your evening meal the chemical tryptophan is transported to the brain which helps produce and activate serotonin leaving you to experience lucid dreams.

You may need to tinker with the amount of potato as it can vary, sometimes I only have half of one.


Someone else mentioning it in a group about the site above :

Has anyone tried this?
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From the Radiant Living Forum :

Okay I've found more stuff on this within the forums about people who tried this :

Hi,
these high proteins meal + potatoe 3 hours after meal really seem to have an impact.
I experience heavy sleep with vivid dream. Also when I wake up at night (i've been experiencing this since several months because of an general anxiety/depressive disorder) i'm able to fall back to sleep again with vivid dreams. I'm not cured but something has definitely changed for the better.

I have some questions:

1) Doesn't eating carbohydrate at dinner reduce the effect of the potatoe ? What if I have a dinner with proteins, veggys, and little fruits, but very little carbo, then take the potatoe 3 hours after that dinner, would this increase it's effect ?

2) What if I repeat the potatoe process after each meal: 1/2 potatoe 3 Hours after breakfast/lunch/dinner.... wouldn't this even increase the serotonine effect for the better ? Why isn't this recommended in the book ?

Cordially,
Brak


Answer :

Your second question made me smile. It is so typical to think "If some is good, more must be better". But having a potato after every meal would raise your serotonin too fast, or you would end up with too much. And when your serotonin is too high, it can cause insomnia and other problems. I used to live in New England, where we have a lot of gray weather, and I would come to radiant ranch in sunny New Mexico on my vacation, and eat potato, and then not sleep all week because the sunshine made my serotonin level suddenly increase a lot. (Sunlight increases serotonin). So I think you are better off just having a potato after dinner the way Kathleen wrote it.

Allison






Okay =D , I think I'm gonna definitely try this out ?!

Gonna try it both , Cooked & Raw , And see what happens , This seems promising .

I actually tried this yesterday , I ate an almost whole potato cooked , After having protein in my meal after about 3-4 hrs .

I've actually had a lucid dream , I've had several weird dreams with seconds of lucidity , And then a long one that lasted about 5 mins and was very vivid and stable , One of the strange weird things kind of woke me up to the fact that this is a dream and then I started exploring , And flew for a little bit as I talked to one of my friends , The strange thing is that all the dream characters were actually so awake , That they were aware that I was flying and they were reacting to it , And many of them coming closer in groups as they roared ?! It was a new experience very interesting .

I guess I'm gonna start experimenting more with potatoes .

I've actually tried a raw potato this time !

My dreams were almost fully lucid in 2 dreams , They seemed so real and I felt like I was really in these places , Strong stability .

Yet I felt that my wakefulness was more than the usual , It was kind of hard to fall asleep , Maybe because I got exposed to a lot of artificial light .

But later on I tried for an OBE , Yet I fell asleep and later on gotten into a fully awake lucid dream , Very stable didn't last very long though , But for this one , I had to go for a WBTB , And at one point lay back on my back to fall alseep while trying to LD and eventually getting into an LD

I was walking around my old home and got into the house of my neighbors and I found my close friend sitting there (He's not even there presently) , So I deepened by touching everything around me and then I got to the goal I had in mind .

I wanted the phone no. of girl I knew before but lost the phone no off my phone , A girl I actually want to marry yet can't find her , So I would ask my subconscious to write it on a wall .

And then I would find a no. written , But some numbers would be smudged .

So I ask it again , Nothinig .

So I ask it again , And another one appears , And I then look for a pen and paper to try and write it down , To memorize so that when I wake up I could remember it , But the last numbers are smudged .

My friend is sitting there and watching me and I'm like completely ignoring him lol .

And I then I tell him , Why don't you read me the no. on the wall , And then he's like this one , And I'm like NOO , This one .

Then his sister goes by and I say HI to her .

And then he starts reading something , And then I'm like I should ask my subconcscious to relay its message through him easier .

And poof I wake up .

And for the second time I lose my state because of the swallow-effect as I try sleep-breathing .

Though , The raw potato caused me some trouble in my stomach , Not intense , But I had to go in several times because of the undigested parts , So I guess I'm gonna either decrease it to a half or just go for cooked, Which doesn't create trouble .

This is great though , This seems very consistent .

This is so interesting .

The 2 days before this , I had to pull a WBTB to get a lucid dream in both days along with the semi-lucid dreams of course .

Yesterday I cut the dose down to a half raw potato (Caused a lot of trouble in my stomach still lol gonna go for cooked from now on or really low doses of raw potato) .

And I said that I'm gonna try this without a WBTB or anything or see what happens .

And I had a full on lucid dream (Sexual), And the rest were very awake as if I'm walking around in real life , To the degree that I was talking to people as if they were really there with all the situations happening .

I'm gonna try this again and see what happens !

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