• Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views




    Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 1 2
    Results 26 to 37 of 37
    Like Tree14Likes

    Thread: Little known Yuschak publication: Amino Acid Blend gives "100% LDs"

    1. #26
      DVA Teacher Achievements:
      Tagger First Class Made lots of Friends on DV Referrer Bronze Huge Dream Journal Made Friends on DV Veteran First Class 10000 Hall Points
      FryingMan's Avatar
      Join Date
      Sep 2013
      LD Count
      297
      Location
      The Present Moment
      Posts
      5,396
      Likes
      6868
      DJ Entries
      954
      Yes 50mg may be too little but I always start small and gradually build up

      The glasses block blue light. Blue light suppresses melatonin production, so wearing the glasses allows the natural build-up of melatonin in the hours up to bedtime.

      Did another full galantamine/choline attempt & experiment: 2xgalantamind 4mg, 1x300mg choline bitartrate, 1x300mg alpha-gpc. This time I took the mix at 4hrs, and had a non-exceptional night. Recall worse earlier, just fragmennts, recall better later and less weird dreams, sort of a normal night, not close to lucidity. I did do a lot of micro-flying which is slightly unusual, just drifting for 20 feet from time to time.

      Conditions were: still badly jet lagged and very tired, two glasses of wine with dinner before bedtime, bedtime 10pm

      So the conditions were not ideal. But I wanted to try. I did make it back to sleep after about an hour, could be the anticipation kept me up, or the fact I used an alarm.

      Next thing to try is moving to 100% alpha-gpc 600 mg with no choline bitartrate. Really starting to wonder if galantamine just doesn't do it for me! This was about my 5th attempt with galantamine

      Interesting Nift that your first few galantamine tries didn't work out, Yuschak noted the same thing. Maybe I'm stil in those "first" attempts that don't work for some reason. Or the alcohol perhaps killed it. Or the tiredness . Too many confounding factors.
      Last edited by FryingMan; 04-26-2014 at 03:31 PM.
      FryingMan's Unified Theory of Lucid Dreaming: Pay Attention, Reflect, Recall -- Both Day and Night[link]
      FryingMan's Dream Recall Tips -- Awesome Links
      “No amount of security is worth the suffering of a mediocre life chained to a routine that has killed your dreams.”
      "...develop stability in awareness and your dreams will change in extraordinary ways" -- TYoDaS

    2. #27
      Oneironaut Achievements:
      Created Dream Journal Made lots of Friends on DV Tagger Second Class 5000 Hall Points Veteran First Class
      Nfri's Avatar
      Join Date
      Jun 2013
      LD Count
      243
      Location
      rabbit hole
      Posts
      586
      Likes
      727
      DJ Entries
      34
      /subscribed

      I know that study well. Lots of interesting stuff this thread! It's a pitty that I don't have time to read them all, so later... I got some experience with those acids and more. I'm now in the Netherlands, sleeping like 3 hours a day and living in lucid dream, crazy country XD
      Last edited by Nfri; 04-26-2014 at 11:49 PM.

    3. #28
      DVA Teacher Achievements:
      Tagger First Class Made lots of Friends on DV Referrer Bronze Huge Dream Journal Made Friends on DV Veteran First Class 10000 Hall Points
      FryingMan's Avatar
      Join Date
      Sep 2013
      LD Count
      297
      Location
      The Present Moment
      Posts
      5,396
      Likes
      6868
      DJ Entries
      954
      I did the "Yuschak 3" AAB last night (at about 5 hrs), eventually got back to sleep and nothing: just a few fleeting fragments. I'm pretty much reaching the conclusion now that supplements can't help when your sleep is broken. I just need to get over my jet lag and get some normal unassisted recall back before trying again I think. But it was worth a try to see if it could help.

      Also: my L-aspartic acid is in powder form, and the L-glutamine and L-theanine are in capsule form. Could this cause a timing difference in uptake since the capsules would have to be digested first? Should I open the capsules and go for 100% powder on all 3?
      FryingMan's Unified Theory of Lucid Dreaming: Pay Attention, Reflect, Recall -- Both Day and Night[link]
      FryingMan's Dream Recall Tips -- Awesome Links
      “No amount of security is worth the suffering of a mediocre life chained to a routine that has killed your dreams.”
      "...develop stability in awareness and your dreams will change in extraordinary ways" -- TYoDaS

    4. #29
      Member Achievements:
      Created Dream Journal Tagger Second Class Made lots of Friends on DV 1000 Hall Points Veteran First Class
      Dthoughts's Avatar
      Join Date
      Dec 2010
      LD Count
      A few
      Gender
      Posts
      1,468
      Likes
      771
      DJ Entries
      72
      I would personally opt for powdered anyway. I prefer drinking a bit of water each night I take supplements as opposed to swallowing capsules. Just go for it, right? You can also decide to buy capsules and encapsulate the L-asparctic acid. But that's just hassle. haha

      FryingMan, I have booked success with Yerba maté supplements. It is a fitness blend as well but this one is a mix of a little caffeine and a few different sugars. I concluded that perhaps nutrition in the form of calories is important for staying aware at night as well. It might help to eat an apple or a drink with honey for energy supplementation during WBTB. Otherwise, a banana is perfect because it has naturally slow sugars Tryptophan and B6 which could aid in nutrition for the entire night.

      A common thing that happens when you wake up is that the body starts using amino acids for the waking up. That might be due to low Sugar content. Of course the are a zillion factors at play here in dreaming, recall and lucidity but Sugar is one thing that might be worth looking into.

    5. #30
      DVA Teacher Achievements:
      Tagger First Class Made lots of Friends on DV Referrer Bronze Huge Dream Journal Made Friends on DV Veteran First Class 10000 Hall Points
      FryingMan's Avatar
      Join Date
      Sep 2013
      LD Count
      297
      Location
      The Present Moment
      Posts
      5,396
      Likes
      6868
      DJ Entries
      954
      I'm grateful for any advice, thanks for that! Now that you mention it, Nfri, who has great success with supplements, usually combines them with a breakfast WBTB, interesting!

      The muscle builder I took that time at bed-time with success is full of carbs, etc, so maybe that was one of the reasons behind the "magic?"
      FryingMan's Unified Theory of Lucid Dreaming: Pay Attention, Reflect, Recall -- Both Day and Night[link]
      FryingMan's Dream Recall Tips -- Awesome Links
      “No amount of security is worth the suffering of a mediocre life chained to a routine that has killed your dreams.”
      "...develop stability in awareness and your dreams will change in extraordinary ways" -- TYoDaS

    6. #31
      Member Achievements:
      1 year registered 1000 Hall Points

      Join Date
      Feb 2014
      Posts
      29
      Likes
      9
      @FryingMan, I've been trying to log on for a couple of days now so sorry for the late response on this, but BodyBuilding.com is the website that has UYM in 2lbs forms. I never even noticed my post was modded until you mentioned it, my bad.. I am buying some UYM soon as I'm eager to test the results. I'll update when I have already tried it.

    7. #32
      Member Achievements:
      1 year registered 1000 Hall Points
      Nift's Avatar
      Join Date
      May 2013
      Posts
      21
      Likes
      27
      Quote Originally Posted by FryingMan View Post
      I did the "Yuschak 3" AAB last night (at about 5 hrs), eventually got back to sleep and nothing: just a few fleeting fragments. I'm pretty much reaching the conclusion now that supplements can't help when your sleep is broken. I just need to get over my jet lag and get some normal unassisted recall back before trying again I think. But it was worth a try to see if it could help.

      Also: my L-aspartic acid is in powder form, and the L-glutamine and L-theanine are in capsule form. Could this cause a timing difference in uptake since the capsules would have to be digested first? Should I open the capsules and go for 100% powder on all 3?
      That's too bad that the amino blend failed. You're probably right that your messed up sleep schedule has something to do with your recent lack of results, but it may also be that Yuschak's blend simply isn't that effective. Regarding capsules vs. powder, I think you should be fine with mixing both forms. Gelatin capsules dissolve so quickly that it probably doesn't make a difference.

    8. #33
      Member Achievements:
      Created Dream Journal Tagger Second Class Made lots of Friends on DV 1000 Hall Points Veteran First Class
      Dthoughts's Avatar
      Join Date
      Dec 2010
      LD Count
      A few
      Gender
      Posts
      1,468
      Likes
      771
      DJ Entries
      72
      I've gotten my hands on L-glutamine, Casein protein and Whey protein.

      Method:Whey protein in the morning and Casein protein at night. The casein contains L-aspartic acids+Glutamine. And minimal carbs.
      During WBTB I take another Glutamine+carbs.
      Results: Loads of energy during the day. No fatigue. My dream recall is gradually improving. My sleep is restorative. I now remember 15 as opposed to 5 minutes that I did yesterday. Like i said, it is gradually improving.
      Also, My dream content has been quite hectic. Slightly nightmarish but somehow very nourishing. Vividness has improved along with Lucidity. For example, I was able to do scientific reasoning in a dream. Yet I did not reason that I was perhaps in a dream when I was being attacked by tiny bed bugs. Needless to say I jumped the fak out of bed because I hallucinated slightly that these bed bugs where really there. I changed my sheets

      So.. I also theorize that this MIGHT be due to Astronomic events ! But the protein has not been a disappointment at all. I am VERY happy with energy during the days. I think it automatically starts translating into nighttime adventures. I do note that I am young and do sports from time to time. I used higher doses of proteins because my muscles really needed the nutrition.

      Going to buy B6 asap. I found out that my doses have been in the 5-10mg range. (which is considered 200% the daily recommended) ... Sageous and the gang say they take 100mg... Since my recall is disastrous this might help.
      Last edited by Dthoughts; 05-01-2014 at 12:34 PM.
      Nift likes this.

    9. #34
      Member Achievements:
      1 year registered 1000 Hall Points
      Nift's Avatar
      Join Date
      May 2013
      Posts
      21
      Likes
      27
      I finally got a chance to try Yuschak's amino blend with just L-glutamine, L-aspartic acid, and L-theanine. Unfortunately it wasn't a success. I woke up after 4 hours of sleep last night and mixed the aminos with a cup of apple juice then went back to bed performing MILD. No lucid dreams, and only one non-lucid dream that I can remember. I'll continue to experiment with the blend for a while but I'm not hopeful.

      Quote Originally Posted by Dthoughts View Post
      I've gotten my hands on L-glutamine, Casein protein and Whey protein.

      Also, My dream content has been quite hectic. Slightly nightmarish but somehow very nourishing. Vividness has improved along with Lucidity. For example, I was able to do scientific reasoning in a dream. Yet I did not reason that I was perhaps in a dream when I was being attacked by tiny bed bugs. Needless to say I jumped the fak out of bed because I hallucinated slightly that these bed bugs where really there. I changed my sheets

      So.. I also theorize that this MIGHT be due to Astronomic events ! But the protein has not been a disappointment at all. I am VERY happy with energy during the days. I think it automatically starts translating into nighttime adventures. I do note that I am young and do sports from time to time. I used higher doses of proteins because my muscles really needed the nutrition.

      Going to buy B6 asap. I found out that my doses have been in the 5-10mg range. (which is considered 200% the daily recommended) ... Sageous and the gang say they take 100mg... Since my recall is disastrous this might help.
      Those are very interesting results! What brand of casein and whey are you taking? I have whey but I'm really eager to buy some casein protein now.

    10. #35
      Member Achievements:
      Created Dream Journal Tagger Second Class Made lots of Friends on DV 1000 Hall Points Veteran First Class
      Dthoughts's Avatar
      Join Date
      Dec 2010
      LD Count
      A few
      Gender
      Posts
      1,468
      Likes
      771
      DJ Entries
      72
      Wasn't Yuschak the guy who did cyclic Acetylcholine supplementation? His brain must have already been pretty wired for lucid dreaming.
      These 3 proteins afaik all promote neuronal growth and activity so perhaps this acetylcholine effect kind of potentiated these proteins. I don't have Galantamine but I would try it with that to see if it has an effect. I think this combo stacks.

      Bodyfit Micellar Casein (perfection) I took the chocolate milkshake taste for added Cacao. Haha. I also hate the synthetic strawberry taste of my whey proteins. Blehh.

      Btw, I just read that Serotonin system is shut off during dreaming. Do you happen to know if there is any truth to that?
      Nfri likes this.

    11. #36
      DVA Teacher Achievements:
      Tagger First Class Made lots of Friends on DV Referrer Bronze Huge Dream Journal Made Friends on DV Veteran First Class 10000 Hall Points
      FryingMan's Avatar
      Join Date
      Sep 2013
      LD Count
      297
      Location
      The Present Moment
      Posts
      5,396
      Likes
      6868
      DJ Entries
      954
      With my single success with the muscle-builder blend last week, (and remaining hopeful for repeats), I think the magic may lie in the combination of all those myriad AAs, along with carbs (energy), and vitamins, etc. I've been thinking if my lack of vividness for a while now (other than short spurts of good dreaming) is due to some nutritional deficiency vs. when I started LD practice when I had long vivid dreams all night long regularly. I eat fairly well, but perhaps not well enough or in the required quantities to support vivid/lucid dreaming. Since I exercise regularly now, even fairly intensely (except now while traveling), I really may be running a deficit of critical substances. The muscle-builder blend is a kitchen-sink approach that may be overkill but I for one don't have the patience to try things one by one.

      I think this combo stacks
      (combo referenced = G&Ch + YAAs)

      We need some abbreviations:

      G&Ch: Galantamine + choline(s)
      YAAB: Yuschak Amino Acid Blend (2g L-aspartic acid, 4g L-glutamine, 300mg L-theanine).

      An interesting notion, and one that I'll add to the experimentation matrix! I'm going to also experiment with some REM suppression via melatonin (I have lots of this, it's cheap) and 5HTP (just picked up a bottle, more expensive than melatonin).

      Any recommendations for easily-accessible sleep pattern mapping technology? I'm going to try the smart phone app that supposedly determines depth of sleep from bed movements (so it can wake you up in light sleep phase...isn't set for REM phase that would be fun to try)
      Last edited by FryingMan; 05-01-2014 at 10:38 PM.
      Dthoughts likes this.
      FryingMan's Unified Theory of Lucid Dreaming: Pay Attention, Reflect, Recall -- Both Day and Night[link]
      FryingMan's Dream Recall Tips -- Awesome Links
      “No amount of security is worth the suffering of a mediocre life chained to a routine that has killed your dreams.”
      "...develop stability in awareness and your dreams will change in extraordinary ways" -- TYoDaS

    12. #37
      Member
      Join Date
      May 2014
      Posts
      22
      Likes
      3
      For any one that is wondering the diffrence between L amino acid and D amino acid is huge ... It's called chirality think of your hands they are identical yet you can't put your left glove on your right hand same goes with acid the D acid can't work on a specific L acid site so make sure u get the right L vs D ..... ; ] }
      FryingMan likes this.

    Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 1 2

    Similar Threads

    1. Better than Galantamine! Amino Acid Blend.
      By psychology student in forum Lucid Aids
      Replies: 34
      Last Post: 04-19-2014, 08:49 PM
    2. Amino Acid Blend test subject here
      By Lemm1w1nkz in forum Lucid Aids
      Replies: 1
      Last Post: 04-01-2008, 10:18 PM
    3. Any Adverse Effects of the Amino Acid Blend?
      By Bad Robot in forum General Lucid Discussion
      Replies: 6
      Last Post: 03-05-2008, 09:07 PM
    4. For those of you who want to buy the Amino Acid Blend
      By westonci in forum Attaining Lucidity
      Replies: 1
      Last Post: 01-29-2008, 03:13 PM

    Bookmarks

    Posting Permissions

    • You may not post new threads
    • You may not post replies
    • You may not post attachments
    • You may not edit your posts
    •