Yes, and the other is *Link Removed*Neuro:On. Also, I'd like to get, e.g. ND2. However, there will be no LD masks available in the EU... I don't care. I'm not going to pay the extra VAT and duty. |
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Before I even knew that the Aurora from iWinks hadn't come out yet, I was googling reviews for it and was obviously not surprised to see any. |
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Yes, and the other is *Link Removed*Neuro:On. Also, I'd like to get, e.g. ND2. However, there will be no LD masks available in the EU... I don't care. I'm not going to pay the extra VAT and duty. |
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Last edited by NyxCC; 09-28-2014 at 01:56 PM. Reason: Removed link to commercial site, DV rules
Hey, your link was removed, just name the device (I'm pretty sure that's okay, mods?!? And I'm surprised the Aurora won't be available in Europe at the very least, if that's what you're saying. |
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Aurora is slipping from what I can tell in the kickstarter updates. They're talking about how they're working on *prototypes*, and still working on algorithms in the lab, etc. That tells me that production is still distant, and now it's approaching mid-October, 2014. So I say that's pretty clearly a no-go for November, 2014. |
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FryingMan's Unified Theory of Lucid Dreaming: Pay Attention, Reflect, Recall -- Both Day and Night[link]
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“No amount of security is worth the suffering of a mediocre life chained to a routine that has killed your dreams.”
"...develop stability in awareness and your dreams will change in extraordinary ways" -- TYoDaS
Umm yeah, FryingMan, great points, leading me to that "oh crap" sinking feeling... As guess who just pre-bought one today??? THIS GUY! |
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If y'all don't know, it was pushed back to early next year, so FINGERS CROSSED! |
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I'm not shocked this product got pushed back, it doesn't even have proper placement for the ground on the mastoid, instead it's on the forehead with the other two sensors in a straight line. Unless that changes it will never give accuracy (and be noisy). |
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^^ I realized after reading your message that I'd completely forgotten about Aurora and had stopped checking their kickstarter page entirely. They have absolutely terrible communication and backers are really upset about it, rightfully so. And they just redesigned the product *again* because it was unworkable in its current form. The backers are all fools for supporting them instead of Oneirics, which was *ready for production*. |
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FryingMan's Unified Theory of Lucid Dreaming: Pay Attention, Reflect, Recall -- Both Day and Night[link]
FryingMan's Dream Recall Tips -- Awesome Links
“No amount of security is worth the suffering of a mediocre life chained to a routine that has killed your dreams.”
"...develop stability in awareness and your dreams will change in extraordinary ways" -- TYoDaS
There's a new update if anyone is still interested (1/13/15). Their communication really does need some work -- the silence makes the waiting seem longer than it actually is. They briefly address this issue in the most recent update: |
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"And they just redesigned the product *again* because it was unworkable in its current form. " |
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Another update is available. Current delivery timeline, June for beta testers July for preorders. |
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Thanks for the notice. I'll believe it when it's in my hot little hands. |
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Last edited by FryingMan; 03-05-2015 at 09:42 AM.
FryingMan's Unified Theory of Lucid Dreaming: Pay Attention, Reflect, Recall -- Both Day and Night[link]
FryingMan's Dream Recall Tips -- Awesome Links
“No amount of security is worth the suffering of a mediocre life chained to a routine that has killed your dreams.”
"...develop stability in awareness and your dreams will change in extraordinary ways" -- TYoDaS
Maybe they'll come out with an "over mask" that covers both the device and your eyes. It also does audio cues I think, but who knows how well these eternal cues are going to work. |
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I can't use audio cues unless they have an earphone option. |
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FryingMan's Unified Theory of Lucid Dreaming: Pay Attention, Reflect, Recall -- Both Day and Night[link]
FryingMan's Dream Recall Tips -- Awesome Links
“No amount of security is worth the suffering of a mediocre life chained to a routine that has killed your dreams.”
"...develop stability in awareness and your dreams will change in extraordinary ways" -- TYoDaS
It looks like iWinks are going down the Zeo route with disposable sensors! |
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Last edited by Highlander; 03-10-2015 at 11:16 AM.
That is truly disappointing. I thought the 3-snap design looked similar to the ZEO, but didn't realize the "new" sensor design was also derived from the ZEO as well. Looks like iWinks used some of the backers' money to buy the old ZEO patents instead of sticking with their original sensor design. This just makes me wonder how much they'll be selling the replacement sensors for? If its too much, I'll be going this route and making my own (perhaps a "permanent" version with solid sensors). |
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On the (hopefully) plus side, isn't the ZEO well-regarded? Maybe going with a known-good design was better for them. I really don't care where the design comes from, I just want it to work well. |
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FryingMan's Unified Theory of Lucid Dreaming: Pay Attention, Reflect, Recall -- Both Day and Night[link]
FryingMan's Dream Recall Tips -- Awesome Links
“No amount of security is worth the suffering of a mediocre life chained to a routine that has killed your dreams.”
"...develop stability in awareness and your dreams will change in extraordinary ways" -- TYoDaS
"On the (hopefully) plus side, isn't the ZEO well-regarded?" |
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Last edited by pointofbeing; 03-11-2015 at 11:28 AM.
If you compare these two photos then the terminal layouts are actually different, however the design is basically the same, so there could be an infringement issue. |
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Last edited by Highlander; 03-11-2015 at 01:59 PM.
Well one thing's clear that I agree with, they had vapor to start with, or they wouldn't have needed so many "redesigns" |
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FryingMan's Unified Theory of Lucid Dreaming: Pay Attention, Reflect, Recall -- Both Day and Night[link]
FryingMan's Dream Recall Tips -- Awesome Links
“No amount of security is worth the suffering of a mediocre life chained to a routine that has killed your dreams.”
"...develop stability in awareness and your dreams will change in extraordinary ways" -- TYoDaS
"If you compare these two photos then the terminal layouts are actually different" |
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Yeah, I asked them over a year ago for a simple sleep log recorded from their device. I would have been happy with a log recorded from Lucid Scribe! If their sensor was built buy NeuroSky, it should have done so out of the box... |
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I'm not an Aurora backer, so I really couldn't care less about the "how they did it" or "who (if) they stole it from," etc. I just want a device that works. But if it's going to be $299 retail, it better be absolutely amazing. Frankly, I'm not holding my breath (haha, see my signature). |
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FryingMan's Unified Theory of Lucid Dreaming: Pay Attention, Reflect, Recall -- Both Day and Night[link]
FryingMan's Dream Recall Tips -- Awesome Links
“No amount of security is worth the suffering of a mediocre life chained to a routine that has killed your dreams.”
"...develop stability in awareness and your dreams will change in extraordinary ways" -- TYoDaS
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