5-HTP and Ginkgo Biloba

**Scoaus** · 12-09-2014 01:33 AM

Which one do you guys prefer/use? I'm currently on B-6 but would also like to explore some other common lucid aids and stuff that the body either naturally produces or something you can get in a pill form thats generally safe.

One thing though is that I am Diabetic (type one), so I'm constantly researching and checking which drugs may or may not interfere with my regimen.

Is one safer than the other to take especially for a Diabetic? From my research, people have said 5-HTP is fine when you're a diabetic, and same with Ginkgo B (although theres a little less information on it).

Edit: I forgot to mention, do you guys use anything else other then b-6, GB, or 5-HTP, that works?

Thanks!

**Voldmer** · 12-10-2014 12:51 PM

I've had various degrees of succes with:

Galantamine
Phenibut
Huperzine A
Wormwood
Melatonin
Oat straw
L-theanine
Lecithin
L-tyrosine
Mucuna Pruriens
5-HTP
B6
Caffeine
Sulbutiamine

Their reasons for working are all different. Some promote high quality sleep, some promote dreaming, some promote alertness, etc.

**Scoaus** · 12-10-2014 02:08 PM

Ah thank you! I tried 5-HTP right before bed and I had around 60mg? I split the 100mg pill up.

Nothing happened. I guess I'll try the full 100 tonight. Is it more effective if I have a WBTB with b6?

**Voldmer** · 12-10-2014 02:32 PM

We all have our own body chemistry, so what works well for one may prove useless to another.

For me, 100 mg of 5-HTP works well to ensure deep sleep. But it takes a while to get going, so I take it about 90 minutes before bedtime.

B6 increases my dream recall, and I would typically take 50-150 mg at WBTB-time. It seems to increase alertness (and wakefulness), and I will hardly ever use it before bedtime. I have had good success (meaning more lucidity) through pairing B6 with 500 mg of L-tyrosine. There are people who would advice against this combination however (again: we're all different).

**Scoaus** · 12-10-2014 02:51 PM

I tried it right before bed which might be problem A. Some people say take Vitamin B6 in the morning and then 5-HTP a bit before bed.

Wouldn't I pee out all the b6 or would my body store some of it?

**Voldmer** · 12-10-2014 03:00 PM

The metabolism of B6 is very complex, and I don't have a full understanding of it. But B6 can be stored in body tissue, and this can even lead to problems if too much is taken in on a daily basis (so stay on the low side of 100 mg per day).