Using suppliments to have more and more vivid dreams.

[BadAssLongCoat]

I have been taking vitamin B-6 the last few nights and have played with dosages, I find 100 mg works best at helping my dream recall. Tonight instead of taking B-6 I will be trying a sleep formula which contains 100mg of Tryptophan. I here this can increase the number of dreams you have, the detail and the complexity of that detail. If this yeilds good results I will try a combination of Tryptophan and B-6 starting back at 50 mg of B-6 and find what that does for me. I understand that these two (essential amino acid and vitamin B-6) are primarily responsible in the body's production of seratonin and melatonin which are responsible for the way our dreams behave. However, I am curious about something and the following question goes out to those who use or have used suppliments in the past to aide dreaming and Lucid Dreaming. If I use these and attain good results, will stopping using them when I gain better dream recall and dream control while lucid affect my dreaming significantly?

[gab]

I have had best results with 50mg B6, although very inconsistent. *Moved to Lucid Aids

[FryingMan]

I have had best results with 50mg B6, although very inconsistent. *Moved to Lucid Aids My results with almost every supplement I've tried are also very inconsistent. They're so inconsistent that I really wonder whether the effects are so minimal as to be statistically negligible, and that 99.99% of the improvement comes from the desire to remember more of the dream experience. Giving a lot of your attention and intention energy to your dreams in the long term results in consistently very vivid and present dreams without the use of any supplements. These days, pretty much the only thing I take is a (pretty beefy) multivitamin once in a while. When I don't give dreaming much of my attention, recall is less and the dreams are less vivid. When I give dreaming my full attention, the dreams become amazing. Attention (and reflection and recall) is where it's at!

[BadAssLongCoat]

Thanks FryingMan. Even if it is a placebo I have noticed an overall increase in dream vividness and detail, although as you say it is inconsistent as to how much more vivid the dreams really are. If it is a placebo effect then I guess that when I say to myself "I don't need these any more" I won't notice any drop in dream activity when I cease the suppliments, which at first will be when I finish the ones I have.

[Voldmer]

Unless you use B6 all the time, and thereby possibly work up physical tolerance towards it, I don't think stopping its use will have detrimental effects beyond simply loosing the benefits. Actually, if it helps make you lucid more often, it will lead to you getting better acquainted with the dream world, which ought to be of lasting benefit (realising that you are dreaming should become easier, the more intimately you know the dream world). By the way, I have found DMAE to be the biggest booster of dream vividness of all supplements (and I have tried more than I will publicly admit to ).

[xxPhoebusxx]

I like 5-HTP. It's my favorite. Mixed reviews about galantamine and choline. I've only tried it a couple times though

[FryingMan]

There is no doubt about the efficacy of galantamine + choline(s) cocktails IMO. The problem with them is that it can be viciously tough to get back to sleep on them. They produce a more awake/active brain, and the insomnia is the evidence of that. Plus the amazing dreams if you do get back to sleep on them.