Dream leaf?

[Icarus273]

anybody worked with this substance? *Link Removed* Dream Leaf | Dream Leaf I saw an add for it on facebook and was curious if anybody has had results with it?

[Indeed]

Never heard of anything called dream leaf. Do you have any links about it that aren't to some online store? I'm curious what exactly it is.

[gab]

Never heard of anything called dream leaf. Do you have any links about it that aren't to some online store? I'm curious what exactly it is. I looked at the website, and in list of ingrediants, besides 5-htp and some other stuff, bulk of it consists of "proprietary mix". Sorry, but I'm not buying that. If ingredients are not listed on the ingredients list, I doubt you will find it anywhere else.

[Icarus273]

I found it on amazon as well, but the reviews looked like sock puppet accounts. also where does it list it's ingredients beyond the 5 listed?

[catrina]

I'm curious about the product as well. I found on the FAQs of their website, that the ingredients are just: Mugwort, 5-HTP, Huperzine-A, Choline Bitartrate, and DHEA. Here it doesn't state anything about a "proprietary mix". They do have a 120 day return policy if you're not 100% satisfied. How Dream Leaf Works *Removed Link* I think I may try it.

[catrina]

So I did end up buying it and just got it in the mail today. I wanted to keep others updated on what I find as far as the ingredients and its effectiveness. Mugwort & 5HTP make up the Blue Pill and Huperzine A, Choline Bitartrate & DHEA are in the Red Pill. 500mg of their proprietary blend in each capsule. Additional Ingredients: Gelatin, Water, Titanium Dioxide, FD&C Blue #1, FD&C Red #40, Magnesium Stearate, Rice Flour. DreamLeaf.jpg Directions say to take 1 blue capsule immediately before going to bed. Set your alarm to wake you up after four hours of sleep. When your alarm goes off, take 1 red capsule and begin dreaming. It came in a hand-written addressed package along with a slip of paper that gave an alternative method to take it. It said: Just to ensure you have a great experience with Dream Leaf, give our alternative method a try! Some of our customers report having a better experience by using this method, due to personal preferences as well as sleep tendencies. This method may work better for you, depending on how your body responds to Dream Leaf. If you don't feel like waking up in the middle of your sleep cycle (as our directions suggest) or even if you just find your sleep to be too light by following the original directions, the following method will probably be better for you. Alternative Method: -Take 1 red capsule 3 hours before going to bed and skip the blue pill entirely. -On the following night (24 hours later), take 1 blue capsule immediately before going to bed and skip the red pill entirely. It's been awhile since I've been on DreamViews, forgive me if this acronym is incorrect, but I believe the original directions would include using the WILD or WBTB method in addition to taking the capsules, which in itself could trigger a lucid dream. I'm not sure what the exact differences are between the WBTB and WILD method.. If anyone might be able to squeeze in an explanation of differences, it is much appreciated I'll be trying it tonight, so we'll see how it goes!

[Archvenom]

Thanks for the update. I'm interested to see what kind of results you get.

[catrina]

I tried it as the directions on the bottle stated. Although I remember my dream being more vivid, I do not remember having a lucid dream. My boyfriend tried it as well but took the red pill after 2 hours of sleep (instead of 4) and after he woke up, he didn't write his dream down and forgot anything he dreamed about anyway. I am going to try it again tonight with the alternative method that was on the slip of paper and I'll have a cup of Mugwort tea before bed to hopefully enhance it. I'll let you guys know how the 2nd attempt goes.

[lagoon]

Hi this is my first post to Dream Views! I have been trying to have a lucid dream for the past 2 or 3 weeks without success and I just bought the Dream Leaf supplement from Amazon. It will arrive at my home tomorrow so I will keep everyone updated on its effect!

[DREAMER242000]

Hi this is my first post to Dream Views! I have been trying to have a lucid dream for the past 2 or 3 weeks without success and I just bought the Dream Leaf supplement from Amazon. It will arrive at my home tomorrow so I will keep everyone updated on its effect! Sounds interesting. look forward to your updates.

[Hunterkiss]

I own a bottle of Dream Leaf. I love the matrix theme going on haha plus it works perfect with WBTB. From my experience, the REM rebound after taking the red pill is awesome! I have a Zeo Sleep Manager too so when I take the blue pill, ALL of my deep sleep is in the first 2 hours of sleeping, and I have much longer REM periods after waking up, taking the red pill, and going back to sleep. On nights I don't take Dream Leaf, all of my deep sleep is still in the first half of the night but scattered out, and my REM periods are shorter the second half. Overall, Dream Leaf helps dream recall and vividness. Becoming lucid is pretty much up to me, but it does make it easier. And of course, your experience may vary. Also, it doesn't seem to affect the quality of my sleep, I usually feel the same every morning regardless. Worth $30 per bottle? I'd say yes, but still a little pricy.

[lagoon]

Getting ready for bed now! I will be taking the blue pill in a few minutes and then I will go to bed. I will edit this tomorrow to let you all know the results. EDIT: I will have to do this again in a few days because literally right after i took blue one I remembered I hadn't finished one of my projects so i had to stay up all night doing it.

[catrina]

I had tried the alternative method and still had no results with it. I messaged Dream Leaf and they responded by saying "When you've taken it in the past, how long have you been sleeping for? When taking the alternative method it can sometimes take a few nights for your dreams to start being affected. The following can also conflict with Dream Leaf though: alcohol, marijuana use, prescription medications, sleep supplements, high caffeine intake (especially in the later afternoon), etc. If you aren't noticing any affect, it's possible that Dream Leaf is delivering into your system too late in your sleep cycle. The time it takes to access your brain can vary a bit from person to person. I'm sure we can figure out a solution for you though. Are you noticing any affect on your dreams or sleep cycle at all?" So.... there are definitely some things that I've been doing that could be conflicting with it so I am still experimenting.

[Lucidhawk]

I've had 3 lucid dreams with dream leaf. The last one I tried engulfing myself more by rubbing my hands but it did nothing. They were all flying dreams when I became lucid, I need to write down my dreams more but for the most part they are usually super vivid.

[cooleymd]

Mugwort, 5-HTP, Huperzine-A, Choline Bitartrate, and DHEA. glad I saw your next post that said take at different times I have been taking some DHEA (turned one of my LD into a cartoon version tho, or at least I'm blaming it, the dream was fine then I grabed a DC and pow cartoon world it sucked) I don't think it matters when you take it but I spread it out every time I wake I take 25mg until I reach 50 or 75 mg then stop adding even if additional cycles but the Huperzine-A, Choline Bitartrate would definitely be in the take em latter category, you wouldn't want this stuff in the beginning of sleep (tho I have never used these things) as for the 5HTP you would definitely want that early, I use it to ensure I get at least some actual sleep (before I become a Melatonin-overload-insomniac) I take either 100 or 200 mg and then go to sleep for like 4-5 hours I miss A cycle but it wouldn't have been that good of a dream anyway, and even with the 5HTP the first waking the dream is usually brief and not the greatest. Melatonin is what I think has increased my frequency from 1/mo to almost 2/wk, but I use a mix of fast and slow acting, and take more after every awakening. Also I keep taking it even if I can't get back to sleep, every 90min to 2 hrs I just eat more of it (short half life), I wish I could find a pill that put out 6mg an hour for like 9 hrs, or could set up a 6mg per hour continuous drip, that is the dose I try to target. (I don't recommend Melatonin to females tho, as it is supposed to mess up your menstrual cycle and such) The only side effect I seem to get is crying a bit. Even taking tons and tons of stuff I only lucid dream on weekends and just before the last awakening while sleeping in (I really should switch to only taking it for the last few cycles)

[FloridaKilos]

I just ordered Dream Leaf on Amazon today, and I've seen very positive things about it. I'm praying it will come on or before Thursday so I can share my experiences! I've had very few lucid dreams, most of which only lasted seconds and I don't remember them because they were from awhile ago. Hopefully I will be able to have a full length and VIVID LD. I know that if I have an extraordinary experience I will remember it well, but since second-long LD's aren't that great, it's so hard to remember what they are like... Sweat dreams, xx

[lagoon]

After taking Dream Leaf a few times, I had my first long and vivid LD. I'm not sure how much it helped because the LDs I had before that were a few seconds. It had to have helped but I am going to go a few days with it and a few without it, alternating. That will hopefully show me how much it really helps.

[FloridaKilos]

The first night on Dream Leaf did nothing for me. I'm very disappointed... maybe it will work tonight.

[lagoon]

You can't expect anything to work in one night. There is nothing that guarantees a LD and definitely not in one night.

[2Jupes]

I've got some Huperzine A coming in the mail, hoping it might work better for me than galantamine as an acetylcholinesterase inhibitor (Dream Leaf's choice, as opposed to Lucidimine). If Dream Leaf doesn't work and this is something you really want to pursue, start with Thomas Yuschak's book Advanced Lucid Dreaming the Power of Supplements. Then you can build your own lucid dreaming combos and dial in what works for you. IMO you have to get lucky if you expect one of these pre-built lucid pills to work, and it may turn out a different combination of supplements or level of dose may do wonders whereas this pill will be a flop.

[FloridaKilos]

You can't expect anything to work in one night. There is nothing that guarantees a LD and definitely not in one night. This is nothing I don't know, but many people say they go from no dream recall to super powerful LDs. It's just disappointing to be the few people that don't... I'm gonna try WBTB alongside this tonight.

[cooleymd]

IMO you have to get lucky if you expect one of these pre-built lucid pills to work, and it may turn out a different combination of supplements or level of dose may do wonders Yea I try something a little different every night (tho last night I tried just sleeping) I will wait a while before going for an ACE inhibitor. Melatonin seems fine on its own for me 1.5/lucid per weekend average last six weekends is fine with me

[2Jupes]

I feel like I've lost touch w lucid dreaming as a result of my obsession over these supplements. But I'll give it some more time out of curiosity. I do miss my reliable lucid each week before I started messing w my brain chemistry, but this WILD experience is my white whale.

[jakerheingold]

I also just ordered dream leaf a couple days ago, and i will share my experience the next few weeks on dream fews (:

[NeasTheDreamer]

Same here, can't wait till it arrives!