Using Dramamine to LD

Interesting thread. This is a great site full of a lot of information. I recommend reading how and why we need to dream if you have not already. We know it's a process the mind uses to clean up it's memory and trash unwanted stuff. During this process the mind shuts down our body and the dreams are meant to keep us occupied and prevent us from falling in a comatose. Since every thing in our brain is a chemical reaction, and I do mean every thing, we need to be careful how we alter this chemical balance. A rookie may simply interfere with the natural process and dilute it. Or worse. They may also prevent the brain from carrying out it's intended process and result in greater fatigue or loss of temp memory. So I would caution newbies. I won't divulge what chemicals work best as they would be the ones that could also have serious side effects. I also understand there are many people here of all ages too. Stick with herbal ingredients to enhance sleep. Certainly marijuana is safe in moderation but since it's illegal obviously can not be recommended.

I realize you want to experience WILD in it's full glory. You will. Allow the brain to do it's work too.

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Originally Posted by nina

Yeah, that's what I just said. I was only questioning your assertion that you would need half as many benedryls. That is not accurate, since a pill of benedryl is only 25mg, and dramamine is 50. The recommended dosage of either is the same...2 pills.

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Dramamine is diphenhydramine (benadryl) combined with a very mild stimulant meant to offset the sedative effects of diphenhydramine. One 50mg dramamine (original formula, not less drowsy, this has a different antihistamine in it altogether, meclizine) is about equal to 27mg of diphenhydramine/benadryl (source, third sentence in section "pharmacology").

Although deliriants are not safe to take to begin with, taking diphenhydramine alone is probably safer because antihistamines already cause stress to the heart, adding a stimulant to the mix would only intensify this. Also, 25 mg is a much more nice, rounded number to deal with when talking about dosages. d:

First of all I wouldn't advise using Dramamine, Dramamine actually just Diphenhydramine (DPH) (a first generation antihistamine) combined with a mild stimulant as to negate drowsiness so it can be marketed as an anti emetic, so each 25mg pill of DMH (Dimenhydrinate) aka "Dramamine contains only 12mg DPH (DPHis what's cause the effects people are striving for) ergo you're paying the same price of half as much with Dramamine. Secondly DO NOT fuck around with this drug, if you don't know what you're getting into do not take it. I have extensive experience with this drug, and believe me it is NOT fun. At high dose DPH is a deliriant, a class of hallucinogen which in doses a state of delirium (hence the name) with some of the most realistic (and most of the time horrifying) hallucinations you will ever see, it also makes you pants on head retarded. The experience is comparable to being schizophrenic and blackout drunk, along with a horrible uncomfortable body load. Granted this is at high doses (hallucinations generally set in around 600mg, 700mg is considered the breakthrough dose where true tripping begins) when used in lower doses (>200mg) it can give you a great feeling of sedation followed by some fucking weird dreams. Keep in mind that the doses I stated are DPH doses, dramamine is 1/2 DPH 1/2 stimulant so you need to take 2x as much to achieve the same effect. I've never heard of anyone inducing lucid dreams with DPH, in fact I've found the long term use completely destroys my dream recall, and if your taking trip doses you're not lucid dreaming, just experiencing intense hallucination in combination with being completely fucked up retarded which I guess you could mistake as a dream like experience.

If you're still curious about DPH check out these links

Diphenhydramine - Taimapedia A wiki full of drug information, this article contains some pretty good info on recreational use of DPH, I'd advise not using erowid for DPH info, the dosage charts are completely wrong and most experience are submitted by people who have no clue what there doing

Deliriant Discussion - 420chan 420chan's deliriant board, plenty of DPH veterans who can answer just about any question you have about the drug, although I'd recommend reading the taimapedia article before post they usually don't like when people ask stupid questions ("Guyz I wanna trip bawls how much do I take/ what is DPH lawl"

But like I said before I'd recommend staying the hell away from this drug unless you have allergies or insomnia, the experience is "interesting" but it sure as hell isn't fun, you feeling shitty and extremely paranoid for 8 hours followed by a hangover from hell, and it sure as fuck isn't good for your brain or body.

Oh also for the love of god DO NOT MIX DPH WITH ALCOHOL. Both drugs are pretty strong respiratory depressants, and both potentate each other, the risk of respiratory failure is extremely high. not to mention add the intoxication of alcohol on top of a deliriant is a horrible idea in itself