That's very true and good to keep in mind. Speaking of which, I'd like to get a little more acquainted with when my REM cycles come and go. |
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I've been thinking a lot about timing lately. Just as with comedy and the stock market, timing is an important aspect of LDing. Even if you do everything else correctly, poor timing can prevent you from achieving your intended results. As soon as you take an LD supplement, you've started a clock of sorts. The effects of the supplement will take a certain amount of time to build up to a peak and then will take a different amount of time to diminish to the point where they are negligible. |
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Last edited by Zthread; 07-02-2019 at 07:16 PM.
That's very true and good to keep in mind. Speaking of which, I'd like to get a little more acquainted with when my REM cycles come and go. |
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So far from what I've read, the best method is to pay attention closely to your own sleep cycle. We wake up around the end of each REM cycle every night. We aren't always aware of it, though. My understanding is to try and develop a habit of remembering these periods each night and document them in relation to when you went to sleep or last fell asleep. |
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Dreams are real while they last. Can we say more of life? - Havelock Ellis
Sleep by android is a nice app. Tracks your sleep cycle based on your movements and draws a graph. Also has kind of lucid dreaming mode but I can't vouch for it. Works pretty well. They also have a sonar mode if you have that in your phone. I guess you can try that if have android and fitbit as recommended zelcrow if you have it. |
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Last edited by ZenLD; 07-02-2019 at 04:51 PM.
I've never heard of that app. It sounds pretty cool so I'm going to download it. Fortunately, I seem to be waking up after each REM cycle the last couple of nights. However, it has been difficult to get back to sleep! |
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Dreams are real while they last. Can we say more of life? - Havelock Ellis
Here are some ideas I had for reducing the time delay between the time you go to bed (or go back to bed) and the time the effects of a given supplement kick in: |
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Last edited by Zthread; 07-03-2019 at 12:17 AM.
Here are some examples of vape products that could be used to produce fast-acting sleep-enhancing and/or dream-enhancing effects: |
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Last edited by Zthread; 07-03-2019 at 12:27 AM.
I've been using Sleep as Android for my alarms for a while (I use to have my old Pebble smartwatch synced up to it for sleep tracking, but it doesn't work with my new Fitbit, so I mostly rely on Fitbit's normal sleep tracking). |
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I'd like to try it too, but I wonder if having a partner you sleep next to would affect the results very much. I had tried playing a recording saying "you are dreaming" that I recorded myself but it would either wake me up or I wouldn't remember hearing it :/ |
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Dreams are real while they last. Can we say more of life? - Havelock Ellis
That does complicate things. |
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Last edited by Zthread; 07-03-2019 at 10:52 PM.
Hey, thank you for sharing that, Zthread. I'm interested in the LED masks that work with an app. That's pretty cool. The user would have to have enough awareness to recognize the flashing as a cue for lucidity or it would be rationalized into the dream I imagine. The price doesn't seem so bad either. |
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Dreams are real while they last. Can we say more of life? - Havelock Ellis
I'm going to see what the app can do by itself before getting the mask. If it works without the mask, might not bother getting the mask. |
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In a previous post on this thread, I discussed methods for reducing the amount of time it takes for LD supplements kick in. But what if you want to delay the effects by a certain amount of time? |
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Last edited by Zthread; 07-08-2019 at 01:50 AM.
Enteric capsules are delayed-release capsules! You can buy them as empty capsules. They allow you to increase the amount of time after you take them that the LD supplements take effect by half an hour or more, compared with regular capsules. I've found that the ability to control the time delay in that manner has dramatically improved my LDing. |
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Last edited by Zthread; 07-09-2019 at 08:29 PM.
That's interesting to know. I still haven't tried any supplements except for melatonin one time. It made me feel odd and I couldn't sleep after taking it. Do you just transfer the contents of one pill to an enteric capsule? |
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Dreams are real while they last. Can we say more of life? - Havelock Ellis
That can happen if you take too much. If you try it again, maybe just take half or a fourth of what you took before. |
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Tried the Sleep as Android app for the first time last night. Set it up with sonar to monitor my sleep stages and detect dreaming. Also had the snoring-prevention and LD-induction features on. The LD-induction feature only got activated once, about 4 hours after I went to bed. Activation of the LD feature caused the phone to start vibrating and to say "You are dreaming" a few times. Unfortunately it woke me up, rather than inducing an LD. I think next time I'll turn off the vibration for that feature. |
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That's pretty interesting that the clicking had an effect on your sleep. I wonder if it was a cause for the nightmare. I would probably do without the vibrating feature as well. I'm looking forward to seeing how this goes for you. |
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Dreams are real while they last. Can we say more of life? - Havelock Ellis
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