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I screwed up.... I got so excted yesterday that I finally had V8 in my house that I drank a glass right then and there [it was only 6:45] and when I was half-way done with the glass I'm thinking, "If I drink more later on tonight... my parents won't buy me anymore... but I can't let this juice in my cup go bad... darn it! My dreams!" So yeah, I'm trying again tonight [FYI, I couldn't remember a single dream last night though I know I had two]
Um... is there one in the UK that I might be able to find in maybe tesco with the same nutritional values? Because I can't vind V8 anywhere. and it looks disgusting : it has LETTUCE pieces in the ingredients!
Well.. I've been drinking a glass or two a day since this thread started, astonishingly I don't hate the stuff anymore. I spice it up with plenty of tobasco and worchestire and a healthy dash of fresh ground pepper and it's more like a virgin caeser than vegetable juice. I'm dreaming each and every night, without exception, but then I'm also taking ALL my vitamins too. For those of you who can't buy it locally here's a recipe that you can make yourself:
Ingredients:
15 pounds Fully ripe tomatoes;chopped
2 cups Celery;chopped
3 large Onions; chopped
3 cloves garlic; minced/mashed
1/4 cup Sugar; or to taste
Salt
3/4 teaspoon Pepper
2 teaspoons Prepared horseradish
1/3 cup Lemon juice
Worcestershire to taste
Directions:
Over medium high heat bring the vegetables to a boil and boil gently for about 20 minutes. In a covered blender (food processor) and a portion at a time process until smooth. Strain and discard pulp. Add seasonings and bring to just under boiling if canning, or chill.
You'll have to add beets, carrots, spinach, lettuce and watercress for it to be real V8. You can pretty much put in whatever veggies tickle your fancy, the more the merrier.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...V8beverage.JPG
Congrants on getting over V8's yucky taste [I have to agree, at first it's taste is gross]. About how many hours or minutes before bed did you drink it? I just wanna be sure tha tI don't chug down my V8 too early like I did yesterday [which is why it's not good to act on whim]Quote:
Originally Posted by Phydeaux_3
I would have to say that it really doesn't matter too, too much, I mean it's not like your body just uses up the nutrients instantly, more likely that they are stored... and it probably takes at least a little while for your body to absorb them too. I have a can for lunch and then maybe another when I get home from work. Honestly I don't think there's a "wrong" way to get it into you.
http://arfarfarf.com/review/photos/v8_spicy.jpg
Day 2:
I drank 2 x 5.5oz cans during the day and 2 x 5.5oz cans through the one hour before going to sleep.
Result:
I remembered 2 dreams, they were both pretty vivid.
Disclaimer:
1. I've been drinking a total of 4 to 5 x 5.5oz cans each day, two of which are through the one hour before I go to bed. I am still taking my regular vitamins (including some that help concentration and short term memory), but I've been taking those for a little while now.
2. The multi-vitamin I take does have a small amount of B-6 in it, but as previously said, I've been taking it for a while now.
3. What I'm refraining from doing is taking extra B-6, Melatonin, or Valerian Root capsules before I go to bed, for obvious reasons.
I had some about an hour and a half before bed last night. Results, two very odd, but very vivid dreams [compared to the rest of this week's dream]. I'm going to try it again tonight, and maybe do a WBTB.
I had a glass for breakfast this morning and did a WBTB (had the day offa work, woot!) and had two good dreams. I can't deny the fact that since I've been drinking a glass or two a day my recall has gone through the roof. Of course I am keeping up my journal AND taking all my vitamins too, so it could be a combination of everything that's working. Either way I'm going to keep it up. I have FOUR (count 'em 4!) entries for my journal today and that for me is just amazing.
http://tantricshamanism.com/catalog/...eamjournal.jpg
Wow, four's pretty good, I miss those days when those were my normal dream recall numbers...But no one can deny it, 4 dreams in a row can be so mind blowing, congrants! I'm going to try to keep drinknig V8 at night [until it runs out] and see how much of a change my dream recall goes through. Since the past few nights before the V8 I was sick and exhuasted, my dreams were just one fastly fading fragmented pile of... junk. I love your dream journal, it's really cool and... cool [for a lack of better words], do you type it and print it out?Quote:
Originally Posted by Phydeaux_3
If you meant that pic (above) for my journal that's not it, just a pic I google'd up, my journal is this one:
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j2..._3/journal.jpg
If that's the one you meant well then.. cool... and no, I don't type it out, I scribble it in rough in the morning on a scrap pad, then sometime in the evening usually I transfer them into my digital journal, here, then the last thing I do before I go to bed is copy them over one last time in good copy to my permanent journal (above).
I drink V8 all the time and quite frankly, I don't think its bad at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Phydeaux_3
Actually, I think its quite tasty.
It tastes like tomato juice, but much more flavourful. Tastes salty too :D
And what you said about it not being strained, it is thin enough for me to drink it.
Believe me, if there were big chunks of shit in it, I wouldn't go near it.
Day 3:
I drank 3 x 5.5oz cans during the day and 2 x 5.5oz cans through the one hour before going to sleep.
Result:
I woke up in the morning and didn't remember any dreams. Then went back to sleep for another hour.
Woke up again, and remembered the dream I had just had, in which I became lucid halfway through the dream. About 30 minutes later I also remembered the dream I had earlier, before I went back to sleep. Both dreams were extremely vivid.
During my lucid I was able to conjure up some nice rims on a pickup truck, then turn the pickup truck into a bigger pickup truck, and then into an even bigger pickup truck. Then a DC asked if I was able to put some jet turbines on the truck and I conjured it up on the place of the exhaust. The DC then got in the truck, and the truck flew through the wall, went flying, turned around, and crashed on the ground. He got out and said "remind me to never do that again." lol. Then I tried to explain to him it was a lucid dream, and whatever he did would have no consequence in real life. Apparently I had forgotten that he wasn't a real person, but simply a guy of my mind, so I went on to explain him about lucid dreaming, and telling him that he was asleep. :roll: I showed him how to fly, and then I tried to walk through a wall for the first time in a dream, but my vision kinda got stuck to the inside of the wall... hehe.
Disclaimer:
1. I've been drinking a total of 4 to 5 x 5.5oz cans each day, two of which are through the one hour before I go to bed. I am still taking my regular vitamins (including some that help concentration and short term memory), but I've been taking those for a little while now.
2. The multi-vitamin I take does have a small amount of B-6 in it, but as previously said, I've been taking it for a while now.
3. What I'm refraining from doing is taking extra B-6, Melatonin, or Valerian Root capsules before I go to bed, for obvious reasons.
Oh, sexy :content: . Much more artist [cover wise, kind of can't see the inside]. That sounds like a good idea, on weekdays I just scribble it down on Post-It notes and try to remember it, but lately my dream recall's been low... hence why I'm trying out the V8Quote:
Originally Posted by Phydeaux_3
I had V8 all this weekend [expired V8 on Sat. night, didn't notice 'til it was empty... explained the funny taste...] and I've remembered two dreams on Friday, I've virtually lost my two dreams from last night, the volume of my alarm scare dme to death this morning. Still not used to Rock songs waking me up instead of the alarm that pisse sme off...
Day 4:
Remembered one dream as soon as I woke up, pretty long and vivid.
Day 5:
Remembered a total of 3 dreams.
First: I only remember a couple of scenes from the dream, but it was really vivid.
Second: The dream was fairly long, intricate, vivid, and full of details.
Third: The dream was fairly long as well, also intricate, weird, and very vivid.
Day 6:
Woke up this morning remembering one lucid dream. Went back to sleep, and slipped back into another lucid dream.
First: I remember it was vivid, but I forgot the dream after I woke up the second time.
Second: Extremely vivid and intricate. The dream seemed to last for a very long time! Whenever I started losing focus, I would start rubbing my hands, spinning, or focus on a specific thing. I was able to extend the dream on at least 3 different occasions.
Disclaimer:
1. I've been drinking a total of 4 to 5 x 5.5oz cans each day, two of which are through the one hour before I go to bed. I am still taking my regular vitamins (including some that help concentration and short term memory), but I've been taking those for a little while now.
2. The multi-vitamin I take does have a small amount of B-6 in it, but as previously said, I've been taking it for a while now.
3. What I'm refraining from doing is taking extra B-6, Melatonin, or Valerian Root capsules before I go to bed, for obvious reasons.
I drank a big glass of this before i went to bed and i rembered a couple dreams but i have a very vivid picture in my head from the dream. maybe it helps if you drink it routinely.
Dang... since I started drinking a can a day of V8 I've been having really good recall. Of course I've been taking all my vitamins (1-a-day multi + B6 + Omega 3-6-9) AND that Remember FX stuff too, so I guess it's all having an effect, and that's all good. I've been recalling 2-3 dreams each and every night for almost 2 weeks, way better than before. So we were at Costco today and bought a 24 of V8 (whatsat workout to.. like 192 vegetables? LOL!) money well spent IMHO
well, i found out that you dont need it every night. like last night, i forgot to have sum and got one very vivid dream, possibly another one and one lucid one (which wasnt much of anything tho).Quote:
Originally Posted by eppy
I have to agree that V8 juice is definitely salty. I used to drink V8 juice all the time years ago and really liked it. But then I bought a juicerator and started making my own fresh juice with carrots, tomatoes, parsely, collard greens, celery, and an apple, hot peppers, garlic, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Swikity
Now that I've been drinking fresh juice for the past 35 years I can no longer stand the taste of V8 because of all of the salt. I guess they have to put the salt in it to keep it from spoiling.
Since anything that is juiced loses 70 percent of its nutritional value after the first hour it is juiced, I doubt that V8 has very much nutritional value in it after it has sat on a shelf for a couple of weeks or longer. In fact, the gross amount of salt that is put in it probably outweighs any nutritional value it has, except perhaps for the B6 and other vitamins they add to it.
If you are drinking V8 for the taste, have at it. But if you are drinking it thinking you are getting some kind of nutritional value from it, you may as well just drink a glass of water as it would probably be healthier for you, although it may not provide the same effect as the V8 does with the dreams. Here's an interesting article I just found that talks about getting melatonin naturally. It also shows which foods are the highest in melatonin. Oats have 3 times more melatonin than tomatoes do. Something I did not realize was that melatonin pills may not be as harmless as I thought they were as the sale of melatonin in health stores has been banned in both England and Canada.
http://www.nutritionadvocate.com/story/melatonin.html
If you want to do something healthy for yourself, buy a juicerator and start making your own fresh juice each day, or else make your own V8 juice from the recipe provided earlier in this post, and consume it before it gets too old.
The biggest downside to making your own fresh juice is the time it takes, as it can easily take 10 to 15 minutes to clean the vegetables, juice them, and then clean the juicerator.
But considering the health benefits from just fresh carrots juice alone, such as improved eyesight, cancer prevention, etc, it is probably worth the time it takes. At least for me it is.
Quote:
Originally Posted by iadr
WTF! 1,796 picograms per gram of oats?Quote:
Originally Posted by nutritionadvocate.com
1,796 picograms / g oats.
1.796 nanograms / g oats.
179.6 nanograms / 100 g oats (uncooked)
.18 micrograms / 100g oats.
Eating a big sloppy bowl of oats will net you melatonin in the range of fractions of a microgram? My melatonin pills come standardized at 3 milligrams each, which is roughly... 10,000 times what you'll get from a serving of oats. I am not under the impression that human beings depend on diet as a source for straight melatonin in the first place, but if you're going to go that direction, I don't think a feast of brown rice is going to be your most efficient ticket.
Wow, I didn't realize how much melatonin I was getting from those tiny little 3 milligram melatonin pills.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spamtek
They seemed small enough and harmless enough, so I recently up'd my dosage to 2 pills a night. And now that I've done a little more searching on the internet I am finding that it might not be that dangerous after all. In fact, high doses of melatonin have been used to treat cancer patients.
http://www.sleepydust.net/melatonin-too-much.html
The one thing that taking a couple of 3 milligram melatonin pills does not do though is fill my stomach up like a big bowl of oatmeal does. I actually just mixed up a cup of uncooked oats in a protein drink that I have before going to bed last night and it seemed to work a lot better at putting me to sleep than taking the 2 melatonin pills have been as I could feel a heaviness take over my whole body and put me to sleep.
What might cause the V8 juice to work so well for some people in helping them to dream lucidly or more vividly is that there may be just the right balance of seratonin vs melatonin levels in this drink that helps to trigger the lucidity.
I got the spicy V8 the other night, I couldnt bring myself to down it; it tasted like cold vegetable soup. So then I bought V8 Fusion (The one with Fruit and Vegetables), I had very good results with it, I can remember almost every dream I have and they are extremely vivid.
I'm on to V8 Splash! now... mostly carrot juice (+ a shitload of sugar).
Anything that can get me drinking carrot juice has got to be a good thing.
http://www.v8juice.com/images/photo_splash.jpg
Picked up a tupac at Costco, real good stuff.
(still drinking a can a day of regular V8 too).
I tried making some fresh V8 juice last night with my juicerator, and it was so delicious I ended up making a couple more batches to drink during the night.
I just used 6 to 8 carrots, 4 roma tomatoes, an apple, a leaf of collard greens, a bunch of parsely, a stalk of celery, a slice of onion, and a small clove of garlic, and a little sea salt.
If you've never made your own fresh vegetable juice you would be surprised at how much better it tastes than something that has been sitting on a shelf for 2 to 3 weeks, in addition to still having all of the vitamins in it.
It did help with my dreams also, as I had really vivid dreams all night.:)
Damn I'm gonna go buy some v8! Usually the only dreams I remember are the mid-day wilds.
I HATE regular V8 but I'll drink V8 splash. Does anyone know if that works for you too?