Thread: Galantamine + Choline

Originally Posted by FotoDreamFactor

Somebody here from Germany or EU? I am trying to find Galantine and Choline here in Germany...hmmm is so big difference to America...) Cholin is usually easy to get, but Galantine is a PAIN...you need prescription here!!

I had trouble in UK but was able to order it online. Pack eventually came from India (just 4mg galantamine) Have now also ordered the 8mg galantamind but will take a couple of weeks. Google is your friend :-)

thank Alanl....I use google but....nothing found.. I must buy from Europe because of German Custom:
Due to Big Pharma influence, German Customs often returns bottles of legal supplements...
You know German Customs is a little bit strange, because of this I wild like to buy in EU...then is not German Customs anymore!!!
can you post the link where u order yours?

Galantamind (Galantamine) (90 Capsules) [LEM-01680] - £109.78 : Vitamin UK, The premier site for healthy living - Galantamind 8mg

GalantaMind ( Galanta Mind ), 4 mg (90 Capsules) [LEM-01880] - £62.36 : Vitamin UK, The premier site for healthy living - Galantamind 4mg

Your Support Center - just galantamine - I ordered 4mg from here too

Its expensive but well worth it. Had a short lucid last night with 8mg galantamind with an extra 500mg Choline :-)

As a note, and people can feel free to give their opinions- I would definitely recommend only getting the 4mg; that still keeps me awake for ages after taking it and hasn't once failed to give me a lucid (assuming I get back to sleep).

Originally Posted by Astrosomnia

As a note, and people can feel free to give their opinions- I would definitely recommend only getting the 4mg; that still keeps me awake for ages after taking it and hasn't once failed to give me a lucid (assuming I get back to sleep).

Well, last night I had my first supplement DILD and it was using the 8mg Galantamind product with total of 700mg Choline. A bit high dose but it worked. LD only lasted about 5 seconds though. i was so excited to finally break through I foolishly decided to fly and euphoria woke me up after 5 seconds. Still, its a great start.

I think the problem with 8mg though is it has me *too* awake so dreams are short. On the 4mg a narrative dream seemed to last nearly an hour.

On Wednesday I may go back to 4mg Galantamine with 500mg Choline and see how it goes. I can always then try 6mg.

I'm also going to try a new technique for OBE exit in a new book by Frederick Aardema that looks promising (and its a good book that challeneges R Bruce and LeBerge). Will keep updating!

But out of ALL the various supplements I've tried Galantamine and Choline is the best. The stuff really does add rocket fuel to your dreams :-)

thanks Astrosomnia I wil order the 4mg from alanl link...and I will try with 4mg if I need more I take 2..)....and what I can say is a little expensive from $44.90 to £62.36..hmm

Originally Posted by FotoDreamFactor

thanks Astrosomnia I wil order the 4mg from alanl link...and I will try with 4mg if I need more I take 2..)....and what I can say is a little expensive from $44.90 to £62.36..hmm

If it works then its a small price to pay for LD's or even incredibly vivid dreams IMHO :-) We pay for alcohol and other substances for an altered state so why not some less harmful ones for dreaming purposes. My 20 years of smoking I think had burned out some transmitters and the G+C combo seems to give me the clarity to become lucid and remember great details

uff...so I must quit smoking...))....I go on balcon to burn some transmitters.....) Do u smoke anymore ?

Have you tried a .5mg melatonin or 200mg of L-Theanine with the G+C? Maybe that can help you sleep? I don't seem to notice anything with melatonin but some seem to find it helps. I may try L-Theanine next attempt in a few days once the Galantamine is flushed out (have taken the Piracetam to help that process)

If it works then its a small price to pay for LD's or even incredibly vivid dreams IMHO

This.

While I'm a bit worried about the potential of becoming reliant on the things, the ability to quite literally buy lucid dreams is pretty awesome!

Yeah but now around 5 per day, not 20 per day I did between 1990 and 2008 :-S

I'm also considering using a 7mg patch occasionally once I fully know the minimum Galantamine to use :-)

Originally Posted by Astrosomnia

While I'm a bit worried about the potential of becoming reliant on the things, the ability to quite literally buy lucid dreams is pretty awesome!

I totally agree :-) My first OBE/WILD 20 years ago was accidental but I wouldn't lose that experience or memory for a million pounds - seriously! So to pay around £1-2 for an LD seems excellent value.

I still am working on techniques like MILD, Dream Journal, Auto-suggestion etc so not being *too* lazy

Originally Posted by Astrosomnia

While I'm a bit worried about the potential of becoming reliant on the things, the ability to quite literally buy lucid dreams is pretty awesome!

One other thing, although I'm 'buying' LD's I spend most days with LD'ing on my mind. using this forum is an example. I still think for it to happen you have to *really* want it and your subconscious needs to have the message hammered into it. i find just by taking the supplements as part of WBTB and having journal on bedside table helps with that too

yes, I think you are right alanl...you must also work.....
but holly sheet if I can buy lucid dreams )) why not==???
hi,hi... also I use my car,or airplane and not a horse if I wish to go quickly in another Place ....the questions is if this LD we buy, have another effect, a negative one in time to our body-mind relation `?

Originally Posted by FotoDreamFactor

the questions is if this LD we buy, have another effect, a negative one in time to our body-mind relation?

Well, someone more experienced is best to give an answer but so far my 2 G+C nights of dreaming have been vivid, clear, positive and memorable experiences (just with some insomnia thrown in!). I need to make sure I don't take them too often though so it stays that way. I will also add other supps occasionally to keep my brain from knowing *exactly* what its gonna get so have some Yohimbine, Mucuna Pruriens, Nicotine patches, Alpha-GPC to mix things up a bit. I'm also going to take Omega 3 oils daily to help with memory. Also worth mentioning I'm taking 5-HTP 10.30pm before bed so I get REM-rebound. Not sure if thats working as I do seem to have dreams in first half of the night, albeit hard ones to rememeber!

Hello! after reading many pages and taking some notes, i ordered from dreamamins. In 12 days reading a lot and get into to LD thing, i have had 3 LDs, very shorts one(so i think im doing good, i had 2 lds in 3 days), and now training to stabalize it. Anyway, i ordered galantamine and choline from dreamamins and my question is, after getting some sleep(4-5hrs), and taking the pills, should i do any techniques to induce the LD? or should i get just back to sleep and expect it to happen? Im not very familiar with WILDS... my 3 LDs so far in this 12 days has been noticing something weird in my dreams and then doing a RC to reconfirm that im into a dream. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks

isn';t that stuff bad for you

Originally Posted by Marciano999

Hello! after reading many pages and taking some notes, i ordered from dreamamins. In 12 days reading a lot and get into to LD thing, i have had 3 LDs, very shorts one(so i think im doing good, i had 2 lds in 3 days), and now training to stabalize it. Anyway, i ordered galantamine and choline from dreamamins and my question is, after getting some sleep(4-5hrs), and taking the pills, should i do any techniques to induce the LD? or should i get just back to sleep and expect it to happen? Im not very familiar with WILDS... my 3 LDs so far in this 12 days has been noticing something weird in my dreams and then doing a RC to reconfirm that im into a dream. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks

Just keep doing what you're doing
If you've had 3 LD's in your first 12 days just from noticing strange things, you're doing very, very well.

Originally Posted by meisbored

isn';t that stuff bad for you

It's a very safe drug. Provided the correct dosage is taken. Choline is in pretty much everything, so that's not bad either.

Im going to start with 1 tablet... which is 4mg Galantamine, 200mg Choline to see how it goes. Planning to do 1 on, 3 off.

Originally Posted by Marciano999

Im going to start with 1 tablet... which is 4mg Galantamine, 200mg Choline to see how it goes. Planning to do 1 on, 3 off.

Seems like a very sensible approach. My next attempt will be 4mg Galantamine so I'm less stimulated. Lowe the dose that works the better!

And my experiences so far I haven't had a WILD yet with supps. I fell asleep and realised in dream it was a dream and then BOOM. Everything became clear. Fantastic experience. Not as profound as a WILD/OBE but still amazing so whatever works is good :-)

Originally Posted by alanl

Seems like a very sensible approach. My next attempt will be 4mg Galantamine so I'm less stimulated. Lowe the dose that works the better!

IM not really sure about it, do you think that starting with 2 tablet will be better?(which is 8mg G, 400 Choline)

Originally Posted by Marciano999

IM not really sure about it, do you think that starting with 2 tablet will be better?(which is 8mg G, 400 Choline)

Nah, start low and if it doesn't work maybe twice then up to 8mg I think. No rush :-) I'm trying 4mg Wednesday.

Iplan on keeping Galantamine attempts to once per week and will keep at the other techniques for other nights. I'm also going to try the amino acid combo but still waiting for one of the amino acids to be delivered

Wow that was a really long read!!

Right, for people who have difficulties falling back asleep after waking up during WBTB, I may have a solution. I will try it out in a couple of days and let you guys know if it works.

Originally Posted by BlueWalls

Right, for people who have difficulties falling back asleep after waking up during WBTB, I may have a solution. I will try it out in a couple of days and let you guys know if it works.

It can take me 2 hours so please share! I tried L-Theanine but didn't seem to help.