If this is a online pdf book please share it amongst us, that would be great. |
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Before I start, I just want to stress that I have no affiliation with any of the books or products I'm asking about. I don't know if that's an issue on this board, but I'm saying it just in case. |
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Working on: Astral Projection
LDs: Too many to count
If this is a online pdf book please share it amongst us, that would be great. |
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Cheaper? Let's compare Lucid Dreamer from dreamamins.com and Galantamind GM-S from life-enhancement.com: |
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I'm trying to find a Galantamine/Choline combination that's not mixed with other supplements. I'm just trying to follow the book. And sorry, Miracle, it's not an online PDF but it's a good read and pretty inexpensive from Amazon.com. The author is Tjomas Yuschak. |
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Working on: Astral Projection
LDs: Too many to count
The best thing to do is probably to buy each supplement separately and combine them as needed. Yuschak advocates trying each supplement alone before you start combining them. But if you're going for a galantamine/choline combination capsule, you might as well take the extra B5, because B5 is needed to convert choline into acetylcholine, and 100mg extra doesn't hurt. |
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I've got a quick question to throw out at this point. |
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you must be the change you wish to see in the world...
-gandhi
On his web site, Yuschak has a list of suppliers that sell each supplement on its own. |
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... didn't do anything for me at all. Thanks for mentioning the book though. His website looks interesting too. |
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There is evidence that acetylcholinesterase inhibitors work fairly consistently. Stephen LaBerge has a patent on using acetylcholinesterase inhibitors for lucid dreaming. According to the patent text, donepezil (Aricept) was evaluated: |
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Although I doubt that there will ever be a miracle pill that can guarentee that everyone who takes it will have a lucid dream, the combination of galantamine + choline is about the best combination that has been found so far, as it seems to work for the majority of people who take it. |
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iadr's Lucid and Vivid Dreams:http://dreamviews.com/community/showthread.php?t=54442
Great website, Thor. Thanks for that. |
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Working on: Astral Projection
LDs: Too many to count
It's been my own personal experience that the dreamamins product works VERY well, check this post for all the info. (& special offer that brings the price down a bit more!) |
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I read Yuschak's book w/ great interest. I have found Galantamine to be incredibly effective. In particular, I bought the Lucid Dreamer formula you refer to above. I take two capsules after 5-6 hours of sleep. |
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Adopted Namwan, 2/6/08 Chris31, 3/14/08
Can using supplements inhibit your ability to lucid dream naturally? |
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Well, supplements that work on cholinergic receptors, such as alpha-GPC, galantamine, and nicotine, lead to desensitization, so that next time you'll need a higher dose to get the same effect. However, desensitization can be counteracted by taking piracetam after the LD attempt. |
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So if I was to take the Lucid Dreamer or GM-S pills, I would either need to take higher and higher doses or take something else after I wake up? |
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Yes, if you wanted to use it, say, every other day. And you definitely don't want to take higher and higher doses, so the best option is to take piracetam after you wake up. It's also possible that desensitization could be reversed by waiting long enough between each LD attempt. |
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Well... if I do take it, I'd probably do the piracetam thing. |
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If you took these pills and didn't take piracetam afterwards it would lead to some desensitization of cholinergic receptors. I'm not an expert, but in theory this should lead to less vivid dreams. On the other hand I've experimented many times with nicotine, which is reportedly worse than galantamine with regard to desensitization, and I can't say that I've noticed any less vivid or shorter dreams after an LD attmept with nicotine. (I would have tried galantamine if I could, but it's very hard to come by here in Norway.) |
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Alright... thank you very much for the help! |
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Great information DrTechnical. Thanks for sharing that. |
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iadr's Lucid and Vivid Dreams:http://dreamviews.com/community/showthread.php?t=54442
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