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      No One Knows What Gaba Is?!?!?!

      Who didn't suggest this that knew?
      You want vividness, you want realism?
      This stuff I use it for bodybuilding. Its GREAT it increases the serotonin and melatonin levels of your body. Its great for weight loss and muscle growth.
      I can't believe you guys haven't mentioned this. Its very healthy and very good.
      I don't care what the label says. I know its safe from many many scientific tests and personal.
      Take 7grams a night. Up to 15 if you REALLy need it.
      You will take the powder don't get pills. The pills require you to take way to much. Mix it with a fruit juice. This gets rid of the weird taste almost 100%
      its cheap and very good for you. Your growth hormone levels rise up pretty good too.

      JUST FYI!!! please remember this.
      You take over 5 grams. NATURALLY you do get a tingly sensation its only for a min or 2.
      Chug your drink with your GABA.
      Lay down with the lights out. Do whatever technique you do. I don't tend to wild since I can't get it to work. But, I do DILD. With Gaba when it kicks in you feel tingly. You get used to it and it goes away just don't worry it is safe. If you find a cheaper link let me know I'm looking for a new bottle. I get mine from nutrition stores usually. Now that I have some I'll buy it online soon. I'll repost with a link I'm only doing trusted sites on resellerratings.com so it might take a min or 2 for me to find a good one


      http://www.bulknutrition.com/?products_id=2105

      they passed the inspection on resellerratings.com
      I understand its not a 10 as newegg.com is. But, that is because people only report when sites are bad typically. None the less they are good.
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      I put a link on the post. But, you can get it at any nutrition store. Like vitamin shoppe, vitamin world, and GNC.
      There are different versions pill and powder. Keep in mind you need to take 7 grams. If you choose pill like some people think they want to do. And the pills are .5grams each. You have to take 14! Its easier to throw it in a grape juice, apple juice or orange juice and not really taste it much.

      The reason I found out about gaba. Is because in bodybuilding we find ways to manipulate our bodies to become better without using steroids.. well some of us. Some just use the steroids. But, natural people do it because its GOOD for you. Things to make your body more and more efficient in the long run. GABA is like the hidden secret that has been out for years. Any weight loss pill, or any muscle gaining pill is behind this in ratings. Because what gaba does. It relaxes your body. And causes you to get really really really deep sleep. Well, most people don't know the importance of sleep. This is when you release growth hormone. Serotonin is what produces growth hormone. The deeper you sleep the more you release. But, for some reason this deep sleep induces some CRAZY dreams. So real its incredible. For us lucid dreamers this is what we want. Its the easiest way to tell we are dreaming. And your control is a lot higher over the dream. You don't tend to fade out as fast.

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      This has been mentioned often, really. A reminder is always good.

      Gamma-Aminobutyric Acid (GABA): GABA or gamma-aminobutyric acid, discovered in 1950, is the most important and widespread inhibitory neurotransmitter in the brain. Excitation in the brain must be balanced with inhibition. Too much excitation can lead to restlessness, irritability, insomnia, and even seizures. GABA is able to induce relaxation, analgesia, and sleep. Barbiturates and benzodiazepines are known to stimulate GABA receptors, and hence induce relaxation. Several neurological disorders, such as epilepsy, sleep disorders, and Parkinson’s disease are affected by this neurotransmitter.

      GABA is made in the brain from the amino acid glutamate with the aid of vitamin B6. GABA is available as a supplement in vitamin stores, but taking it in pill form is not always an effective way to raise brain levels of this neurotransmitter because GABA cannot easily cross the blood-brain barrier. Companies are searching for ways to place GABA in an oil base in order to ease its entry across this barrier

      GABA can be purchased throughout North America in bottles typically holding 250mg/60 capsules for usually less than $15. It is recommended to only take one 4mg pill of GABA daily.

      I hope this has been enlightening.

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      hi,

      for powder, how do u measure how much is 7grams??

      thnaks
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      Quote Originally Posted by hercules71185 View Post
      Who didn't suggest this that knew?
      You want vividness, you want realism?
      This stuff I use it for bodybuilding. Its GREAT it increases the serotonin and melatonin levels of your body. Its great for weight loss and muscle growth.
      I can't believe you guys haven't mentioned this. Its very healthy and very good.
      I don't care what the label says. I know its safe from many many scientific tests and personal.
      Take 7grams a night. Up to 15 if you REALLy need it.
      You will take the powder don't get pills. The pills require you to take way to much. Mix it with a fruit juice. This gets rid of the weird taste almost 100%
      its cheap and very good for you. Your growth hormone levels rise up pretty good too.

      JUST FYI!!! please remember this.
      You take over 5 grams. NATURALLY you do get a tingly sensation its only for a min or 2.
      Chug your drink with your GABA.
      Lay down with the lights out. Do whatever technique you do. I don't tend to wild since I can't get it to work. But, I do DILD. With Gaba when it kicks in you feel tingly. You get used to it and it goes away just don't worry it is safe. If you find a cheaper link let me know I'm looking for a new bottle. I get mine from nutrition stores usually. Now that I have some I'll buy it online soon. I'll repost with a link I'm only doing trusted sites on resellerratings.com so it might take a min or 2 for me to find a good one


      http://www.bulknutrition.com/?products_id=2105

      they passed the inspection on resellerratings.com
      I understand its not a 10 as newegg.com is. But, that is because people only report when sites are bad typically. None the less they are good.

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      Quote Originally Posted by nechong View Post
      hi,

      for powder, how do u measure how much is 7grams??

      thnaks
      chong
      You weight out on a scale 7 grams....?

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      a generous teaspoon is 5 grams
      and the best way to take it is sub lingual but, its nasty so I just drink it.

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      ps don't freak out when you tingle as I did. everything goes away.
      Here is a site on it. http://www.betterbodz.com/library/gabaquest.html

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      Okay, so what's the deal? Is this stuff safe to use, or isn't it? And if it's only recommended to take one 4 milligram pill daily, where you you get off taking 7 grams?
      In dreams of unspeakable joy—of restored friendships; of revived embraces; of love which said it had never died; of faces that had vanished long ago, yet said with smiling lips that they knew nothing of the grave; of pardons implored, and granted with such bursting floods of love, that I was almost glad I had sinned—thus I passed through this wondrous twilight. —George MacDonald
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      its like the recommended food intake. It depends on what you are using it for. But, the only way to effectivly feel any effect or get the higher GH is the higher intake levels. Its 100% safe. Its effective up to 18grams. I was told 15 a while back. And after that it doesn't hurt you it only loses effect. All it is, is an amino acid. You can't get hurt by it. Amino acids are the building blocks of protiens.

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      I just did some googling on the GABA supplement. Apparently it's used for many different reasons.

      If you want to use it for increased HGH (human growth hormone), the recommended dose is 5 grams before going to bed, according to a study performed by the university of Milan.
      They found that 5grams of GABA taken orally increases your HGH five times after 90 minutes, this effect was not present in the placebo control group.

      And in the same study they did find the optimal dose to be 18 grams like hercules said.

      But on other sites they recommend 750 mg, if you want use it for better sleep and less stress/anxeity.

      The optimal dose for lucid dreaming, well, i think we'll have to find out ourselves. So i just went to the fitness shop and bought me a bottle of GABA. Think i'll try the 5 grams dose first, starting tonight. For lding, you probably should take it during a wbtb, like galantamine.
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      sounds good you will see. Now once you test it out let us know. For you to get the feeling of it they say 5-7 grams. The 750 is for a mid day use for stress. I did 750 at first and felt nothing. I did 1.4 felt nothing at 3 grams I got a very mild tingly feeling. and at 6 grams I started to get the feeling. One day I let my friend mix mine up. I told him 3 teaspoons
      well he mixed out 3 teaspoons and tablespoons. lol. Every side affect you see online I got. BAD tinglies like felt like my feet were on ice. And my chest and arms the same thing. So since it can't affect you over 18g. Then the amount I absorbed would be 18g.. IS TOOO TOOO MUCH lol.

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      Quote Originally Posted by hercules71185 View Post
      I told him 3 teaspoons
      well he mixed out 3 teaspoons and tablespoons. lol. Every side affect you see online I got. BAD tinglies like felt like my feet were on ice. And my chest and arms the same thing. So since it can't affect you over 18g. Then the amount I absorbed would be 18g.. IS TOOO TOOO MUCH lol.
      I buy most supplements like this from a place called BulkNutrition.com because they usually have it available in powder form from a company called 1Fast400 which is usually much cheaper than buying it in pill form.

      In addition, it always gives a measurement on the on the side of the jar, such as 1/4 teaspoon: 1000mg.

      If the company you buy this from is reputable, they should give some indication of how to measure your dosage on the side of your jar or bottle.

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      it is the bulknutrition one. I know how to measure.. He doesn't lol.
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      hurcules,

      Do you take a dose of between 7-14 grams every night?

      Do you have lucid dreams every night?

      Have you noticed any tollorance or desensitization?

      How long have you been taking GABA at that dosage?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Stupified View Post
      hurcules,

      Do you take a dose of between 7-14 grams every night?

      Do you have lucid dreams every night?

      Have you noticed any tollorance or desensitization?

      How long have you been taking GABA at that dosage?

      Good question I'm sorry I didn't specify my personal takings.

      Becoming lucid everynight. NO. For some reason I don't always catch myself in them but, when I wake up at LEAST 2 or 3 times a night. I recall them perfectly and wonder why did I not catch myself. Sometimes I can't believe I fell for the dream being real.

      What I personally do for my GABA intake. I used it for bodybuilding but, to my surprise this is the side effect and its good.

      I do cycles. And no I don't lose potency with it. Everynight is as effective as the last.
      Day 1 3g
      day 2 4g
      day 3 6g
      I do 6g for 4 days.
      Day 7 7g
      Day 8 8g
      Day 9 7
      day 10 6g for 4 days
      day 14 4g
      day 15 3g

      For 1 week I stay off of it and use ZMA with B-6. And 1mg of Melatonin.
      I don't do this for dreaming typically. I do it for making my personal body better. Making it produce more growth hormone and promote faster muscle recovery.
      But, as a side effect it does give me crazy dreams
      As for consistency
      Every night I do wake up after my dreams it could be habit from when I kept a dream journal. But, I do remember at least 2 dreams a night, and 1 after my 5 hour alarm wake up. For the hope I get that last lucid of the night. I try to wild but, I am bad at it. I'm still new to anything I've learned on this forum. I will reply more detailed in a min I gotta go out for a bit

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      So has anyone else had any luck with this?
      In dreams of unspeakable joy—of restored friendships; of revived embraces; of love which said it had never died; of faces that had vanished long ago, yet said with smiling lips that they knew nothing of the grave; of pardons implored, and granted with such bursting floods of love, that I was almost glad I had sinned—thus I passed through this wondrous twilight. —George MacDonald
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      Not yet, but gonna try again tonight, will take 10 grams of gaba in a fruit juice during a wbtb. I'll post results tomorrow.
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      O yea, since personal takings are just that. And vary from each person. 10g for me is just too strong. It makes me tingle a lot and not want to wake up in the morning. It is more and more effective up to 18 grams. But, I tend to stay 8-9 max

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      The good news is....I had a lucid last night!! The first one for this year! It was quite short because I lost lucidity due to a false awakening, but i remembered it anyway.

      I went to bed at around 2330, woke up at 415, turned on the lights, started mixing my gaba drink, drank it, and went back to bed. I had a couple of vivid non lucid dreams, woke up because i had to go to the bathroom (around 0900), back to bed again. I noticed myself falling asleep, i saw images forming etc, but it didn't last until i was in the dream. But a few moments later i did know i was dreaming.

      I am sitting in a circus between two of my colleagues, somewhere near the back of the circus. I just know i'm dreaming, so i tell my colleagues 'hey guys i'm dreaming, my body is asleep at home', they say 'really, prove it', so i stand up and fly over the audience, with my arms spread out, i feel like an eagle or something, it goes better than all my previous attempts at flying. I feel euforia kicking in, so i try to ignore it a little, because i'm afraid to wake myself up. I fly over to the stage, there's some sort of act with swinging ropes and different acrobats, it reminds me of 'the flying fellinis' from 'fear and loathing in las vegas'. But this time the baby is real, something goes wrong, i fly over to save the baby, and i see his mother fall to death (no safety net). The curtains fall, i fly back to my seat.

      I wake up (false awakening, i loose lucidity), lying in bed with the same two colleageus (this never happens in real life), i start talking about my lucid dream and ask them if they remember. One of them says he dreamt about a forest.

      I woke up at around 1130, so i slept a lot, but i did have very little sleep the night before (nightshift, and normal dayjob monday and tuesday). So it may be just a coincidence, but i'm definitely gonna try gaba again.
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      Quote Originally Posted by hercules71185 View Post
      What I personally do for my GABA intake. I used it for bodybuilding but, to my surprise this is the side effect and its good.

      I do cycles. And no I don't lose potency with it. Everynight is as effective as the last.
      Day 1 3g
      day 2 4g
      day 3 6g
      I do 6g for 4 days.
      Day 7 7g
      Day 8 8g
      Day 9 7
      day 10 6g for 4 days
      day 14 4g
      day 15 3g

      For 1 week I stay off of it and use ZMA with B-6. And 1mg of Melatonin.
      I don't do this for dreaming typically. I do it for making my personal body better. Making it produce more growth hormone and promote faster muscle recovery.
      But, as a side effect it does give me crazy dreams
      As for consistency
      Every night I do wake up after my dreams it could be habit from when I kept a dream journal. But, I do remember at least 2 dreams a night, and 1 after my 5 hour alarm wake up. For the hope I get that last lucid of the night. I try to wild but, I am bad at it. I'm still new to anything I've learned on this forum. I will reply more detailed in a min I gotta go out for a bit
      Thanks for sharing the information about GABA hercules. I am looking forward to trying it.

      Just a couple of questions.

      How long have you been taking the GABA? The reason I am asking is to try to determine if the effects of this might wear off after a couple of months like the galantamine does.

      Also, do you just get lucid on the nights 7-8 grams, or do you sometimes get lucid on other nights?

      I'm thinking about using this about every 3rd or 4th day and alternating it with the galantamine, but maybe the fact that you are taking it every night allows it to build up in your body which makes it more effective.

      Thanks again for sharing the information. Looks like you've become a pioneer for another great method for becoming lucid.

      Give yourself a pat on the back because you deserve one.

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      I tend to get lucid more often than just the high dose nights. BUT, the effects are stronger and the dreams seem to last longer. I am just now starting to use a few tricks. Like last night I told 4 DC's to let me know when they see me again and tell me its all a dream. They looked at me funny and said alright I guess. The next dream I saw the same people. And told them HEY why didn't you tell me I was dreaming. They said we thought you knew. So I told them again EVERY TIME you see me no matter what tell me I'm dreaming.
      I've taken gaba about a year. I used to get tingles at 6g. Now I take 6g and still get them. It actually feels more potent. It could be that I know what to expect with it now too. As for potency things that are nutritional not hormonal don't usually lose potency. Or we would be able to eat more and more without getting the calories. Would be nice for some but, I'm glad we don't do that. You might just get used to the dose. And feel like its losing effect. In actuality it isn't. Just the first few nights you are feeling weird due to the tingles.
      But, as for vividness. I just got back into lucid dreaming. I've done it my entire life but, never took it as a hobby. So I'm getting better and able to figure out more and experiment.

      As for other tricks
      1 dream kept lucidy by spinning and I kept the scencery. It was kept 2 different times. The 3rd it put me in another scene.
      1 dream kept lucidy by hand rubbing. The 2nd attempt failed
      I want to try to yell out I'm lucid or Stronger visuals now. because that is supposed to work.

      Another weird thing I notice. With Gaba. I tend to have false awakenings. I never noticed them before. Maybe I'm just becoming more aware. Anyone else get this?

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      I got some GABA from the vitamin shoppe today. I could only get the pills, 750 mg though. Oh well, I guess it's a bunch of pills for me tonight. Pic related.
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      Quote Originally Posted by hercules71185 View Post
      I tend to get lucid more often than just the high dose nights. BUT, the effects are stronger and the dreams seem to last longer. I am just now starting to use a few tricks. Like last night I told 4 DC's to let me know when they see me again and tell me its all a dream. They looked at me funny and said alright I guess. The next dream I saw the same people. And told them HEY why didn't you tell me I was dreaming. They said we thought you knew. So I told them again EVERY TIME you see me no matter what tell me I'm dreaming.
      I've taken gaba about a year. I used to get tingles at 6g. Now I take 6g and still get them. It actually feels more potent. It could be that I know what to expect with it now too. As for potency things that are nutritional not hormonal don't usually lose potency.
      Awesome! Thanks for the feedback.

      It sounds like it could actually build up in a persons system and become more effective with time, and you've certainly been using it long enough to know that this is not just a fluke.

      Sounds like you're making some really great progress with your dreams too.

      I like your idea of having your DCs remind you that you are in a dream.

      Keep up the good work.

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      Yea and unlike 99% of the worlds population placebos do not work on me. lol. I'm more of a skeptic and think nothing works till it does. I don't assume it works then try stuff. I'm more of a this is BS lets see prove them wrong.

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      When I was working in a neuroscience lab last summer, the professor of my lab was sudying GABA interneurons, and as an inhibitor, I don't really see how it could help lucidity... relaxation, maybe? Helping to maintain lucidity once achieved?

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