Hmmmm n matter what i tr its hard to me just to get a ND
so inspired by you slim im heading out to go buy some B6
Wish me luck M8
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Hmmmm n matter what i tr its hard to me just to get a ND
so inspired by you slim im heading out to go buy some B6
Wish me luck M8
..ViPeR
Inspired?
Even though I haven't had a LD since I started taking B6?
Well - actually last night I had two!!! In the end I worked late and so ended up taking 150mg 20mins before I went to bed at 2am. Tried to WILD and nearly got there a few times (my visualisations jumped up several orders of magnitude in vividness) but I was v. tired and distracted (cat cleaning herself). Later had a very brief LD as I realised I was dreaming because I had a terrible itch - so I woke to scratch it. Then had another short one after my 'get up its time to go to work!' alarm clock went off, but I went back to sleep. Otherwise generally very vivid dreams with good recall.
Will try the same again tonight. I think I'll keep this up for a few more days, then stop for a few days. Also I will try waking in the middle of the night for WILDing with and without B6 - partly because B6, being easily metabolised (especially P5P) and water soluble, may not stay in the body for long. So waking then taking it would ensure that it was active during REM - wheras before bed might not (because of the longer nonREM sleep stages earlier in the night.)
I want to know if B6 works - but my experiment is not scientific because a) I have just given up smoking so that's bound to screw my chemistry, and b) I've been on holiday and am going back to work on monday - which will probably screw it too!
NB: I eat a very healthy and varied diet, and am generally very healthy in body and mind (I work-out, walk miles, do regular yoga & t'ai chi, and haven't had a panic attack or nervous breakdown for years :wink: ) - otherwise I wouldn't be doing this experiment..
Good luck
sweet dreams
:flyaway:
-:dreaming:-
Slims right...
Eating a bunch of bananas or tuna won't do anything for your dreams.
You have to have an insane amount of B6 for it to have any affect whatsoever. The only way to get the amounts specified is to take supplements.
7th Jan 07
Did the 300mg shortly before sleep (also drank a fair amount of wine with my dinner.) Woke at about 4am (with mild hangover). Tried and failed to WILD (my cat wanted to get out, so was banging on the door) then I tried again, but fell asleep. Lots of vivid dreams all night, good recall, some low level lucidity (i.e. vaguely aware that I was dreaming), one very distubing dream (i.e. you all would be disturbed if I told you what it was!)
Next step - will try not taking it before sleep - but taking it after waking again at 4am for a WILD session. Well that's the intention - but when I work duing the week, I stay in Camden High Street, which as you'll know if you've been there, is quite lively - police sirens, beaking glass, fighting, druken singing etc etc etc... all night! Again it will hardly be scientific (too many other variables keep changing) - but I'll keep the expt. going during the week, so will know what the cocktail of B6 + noise does.
EDIT: Update 8th Jan 07
Didn't do B6 last night but did smoke a Calea joint before bed. The result was exceptionally vivid and weird dreams - including an epic supernatural movie before waking. No LDs.
EDIT: Update 11th Jan 07
Have not tried any supplements for the past few days - and my dreams seem pretty normal: some weird, some not, some semi lucid, most not. Generally good dream recall, but no fully lucid (i.e. could in theory but don't or / do assume God-like control dreams in over 10 days with / without B6 and/or Calea! But as I have said its not a scientific experiment... Still want to wake and try B6 before a WBTB/ WILD session. Perhaps this weekend when things are quieter.
EDIT: Update 13th Jan 07
First BIG LD for nearly two weeks. I woke at 4am then did a WILD. No B6 or anything involved. And nothing different in my daily ritual except that its the weekend!!!
Thanks everybody in this thread for the B6 information........Before DV was regularly taking 50mg B6 in morning as a general supplement....(over the longest time have had very clear and some lucid dreams, so don't know what was potentiating my dreaming if any...i.e. foods with BG in regualr diet, supplements like Ginko, daily meditation, conducting shamanic aboriginal ceremony, ect.) .....so for a few times recently switched to 50mg before bedtime and had first experience of difficult dream recall....so last night since i had extra time to doze in the morning (this is a productive dreaming situation for me anyway) i switched to 100mg B6 before last dream cycle at 7am....i had 3 very clear dreams where i was in peak non-witnessing, very physically active emotionally self-empowerment assertion type scenarios with both current associates as well as revisiting a former passive work relationship in which i was training for something....happy with the results of the experiment....may try it again occasionally in future to see if the results repeat and are different than regular lifestyle effect on dreaming....
I got some 200 mg pills that are time-released..
Is this effective enough to try once a week before bed?
I'm not depending on them for anything, but rather I want to see what the results will turn out to be.
So the general idea here seems to be that noobs shouldn't take it. I was thinking about picking some up today, but I've only had one LD so far. Think I should try it or wait?
I wanna know how much to take and at what time (i just bought 10 pills of 250 mg b6)
I just found out, if you have some "Childrens Vitamins" (the ones that taste good for kids), they have 1.5mg of B6 Vitamin in them. You're only suppose to take 1 a day but 2 probably wont hurt for 200%+ daily recommended intake.
i doubt 3 mg of b6 is going to do much for your dreaming.
Oh... I thought I heard a 3mg pill would do something.
I found this vitamin B6 drink thing in the fridge today. I'll take a couple of shots of that and eat a banana before i go to sleep.
My first lucid dream ended this morning at 2 am and I had a unripened banana the previous day. When I went to sleep I had no intention of going lucid I was just tired as balls from a day of snowboarding and 19 hours of consciousness. I suppose that supports your theory, but it still could be coincidence.
Guys i just looked at my local pharmacy, and b6 was there but...... its got pink all over it and 90% of the information says its for females PMS and period symptoms... Vitamin b6. Is this the right thing? Im in australia but i highly doubt the vitamin would be the same. Whats going on?