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03-18-2009 04:00 PM #1Member
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High doses of Zinc and dream awareness?
I haven't seen very much regarding zinc and dreams so I figured I would post an experience of mine. I've been taking 100mg of zinc a day as an acne treatment, 50mg in the morning and 50mg at night. Every night after consuming 50mg I find myself lucid in every dream that I am able to recall. The strangest aspect of it is there's no RC inducing it, therefor it's an increased awareness. Usually my LD's are a result of me viewing my hands but from what I recall from last night's lucid experiences, I became lucid and decided to view my hands anyway but it was an unsuccessful RC, they didn't seem mutate like they usually do. [May be result of feeling careless]
Even after an unsuccessful RC I was still fully aware that I was indeed dreaming and carried on with my basic dream tasks. Zinc certainly made it much more vivid as well and brought me to my everyday state of mind. I was even able to prolong dream experiences. I'm not fully sure how but I was able to prevent awakening without spinning.
I may resume experimenting with Zinc due to multiple successful outcomes. Has anyone else had a similar experience? Naturally I am capable of inducing lucid dreams without substance but i've been experimenting with many just to satisfy my curiosity. I've also tried Calea Zacatechichi and Piracetam and came to conclusion that these substances also increase vividness and affect dreams yet none to be to anywhere as rewarding as Zinc alone.Last edited by Reality; 03-18-2009 at 04:02 PM.
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03-21-2009 07:47 PM #2ex-member
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Bollocks.
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12-26-2009 08:21 PM #3Unfolding Onierogen
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what is the reason to take niacin with ZInc? And how do you arrive at the optimal dose for lucid dreaming?
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12-26-2009 10:00 PM #4ex-member
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Ninja pulled some stuff from somewhere.
I agree that sources would have been nice. I asked to redo it a long time ago, but was shut down...Bollocks.
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12-26-2009 10:35 PM #5Cosmic Citizen
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A very quick Google search gave me this:
http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/abstract/50/2/364Interaction of niacin and zinc metabolism in patients with alcoholic pellagra
H Vannucchi and FS Moreno
Nutrition Division, Faculty of Medicine of Ribeirao Preto, University of Sao Paulo, Brazil.
The effect of zinc supplementation on the metabolism of tryptophan conversion to niacin was studied in 14 alcoholic patients with pellagra and in 7 male control subjects aged 21-45 y. The pellagrins received chemically defined diets based on crystalline amino acids through an enteral tube for 7 d. Patients were divided into two groups (A and B), both receiving a diet from which tryptophan, Zn, and niacin were excluded. Patients in group B, however, received 220 mg Zn sulfate orally. Upon admission the pellagra patients had low plasma Zn levels and low urinary excretion values of N'methylnicotinamide (N'MN) and N'methyl-2-pyridone-5-carboxamide (2-PYR) in relation to the control subjects (p less than 0.01). During the experimental period there was an increase in plasma Zn levels (p less than 0.005) and in urinary N'MN (p less than 0.05) and 2-PYR (p less than 0.05) excretion in the patients receiving Zn supplementation (group B). These results suggest that Zn interacts with niacin metabolism in alcoholic patients with pellagra through a probable mediation by vitamin B-6.
It isn't directly related to Dreaming, but see how many of the vitamins and supplements named you recognize from discussions on this forum.
Seems to me Zinc helps metabolize Niacin, or vice versa.This space is reserved for signature text. A signature goes here. A signature is static combination of words at the end of a post. This is not a signature. Its a signature placeholder. One day my signature will go here.
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12-27-2009 01:31 AM #6Unwilling, Improper
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Zink for LDs? Huh. That's interesting. Did Ninja do some kind of research?
As for your acne Reality: I know this sound nuts, crazy, and everything inbetween you could think that might point to the conclusion that I'm mentally ill, but you should put milk on your face, in the morning and at night. Let it dry. Keep it on for about 20-30 min, and wash it off with water.
Better then any self-perclaiming 'awesome' acne treatment. It's also mush cheaper.
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