My Silene Capensis Experience

**DemiFiend** · 07-30-2014 12:22 AM

I'm experimenting with Silene Capensis(African Dream Root) and would like to record my experience for SCIENCE. I was disappointed by the lack of abundant information and experiences when I was researching, so I figured I would add something.

Day 1: It arrives in the mail. It is in powdered form... oops. Should have paid more attention when buying it. The powdered form oxidizes quickly. Oh well, hopefully it's still potent.

It's about mid day when I take it(on an empty stomach), as that's when it arrived in the mail and I'm not going to wait that long. I fill 1/4 of a teaspoon, which measured on my scale(fairly accurate to the milligram) weighs around 247mg. I drop it in half a cup of water. I stir it to see if any froth would form. Not even a single bubble and I used soft water. I read some where that if it doesn't froth, that means the ancestors don't approve of you using it or it's not the right time. I'm Demi-Fiend though. I don't give a shit. I grab angels and demons by the balls, why would I care?

So I take a sip, taste is about what I would expect a root to taste like. It has a mild bittersweet flavor. I down the rest of it and feel nauseous about 5 minutes later, which quickly passes and I'm left with a strange stimulation reminiscent of caffeine for an hour or two. Some people speculate it is an MAOI, so naturally that day I ate foods high in tyramine almost exclusively. No effect whatsoever. Nah, it's not an MAOI. I very much doubt it. If it is it's very, VERY weak.

It definitely has an effect on my dreams the first night. Although I often have vivid dreams, I had been having muddier ones recently.

They were quite vivid indeed, and a lot of people I knew but hadn't thought of in a while appeared. The first few dreams were mostly meeting people I already know, then the rest were filled with crime, death, chasing people, running from the cops, and creepy stares. I remember being in this cafeteria/buffet like place and throwing various foods at one of the servers because they said something that pissed me off, then the police showed up(take note: throwing food in the dream world is a serious crime) and I took some one hostage. When a cop got close I exchanged the hostage for a gun. I made him show me that it was loaded. That sneaky bastard thought he was clever disarming it(with some gun mechanism that doesn't actually exist) but as soon as he handed it to me I re-armed it and began shooting everyone in the face(infinite ammo) while running along the walls Matrix-style laughing maniacally . I don't remember much after that. I'm not a violent person while awake and I've never really been in trouble with the law, so I'm not quite sure where the dream came from.

I wake up and take another 1/4 teaspoon and write this.

**DemiFiend** · 07-30-2014 10:38 PM

Day 2:

Vividness is the same as day 1. I only remember one dream, in which I was the new guy working at what appeared to be a Wendy's(that also served pizza in plastic ziplock bags) in a mall. I was terrible at any job I was given. Uneventful, but hey, at least it was vivid. From what I've read I shouldn't expect anything profound until day 4-7.

I take another 1/4 teaspoon.

**OneUp** · 07-31-2014 04:23 AM

Interesting, Ill keep up with this thread to see if anything special results from this root.

**DemiFiend** · 07-31-2014 10:29 PM

Day 3:

Things are getting more vivid, though recall is a bit fuzzy compared to the first two nights. I was walking around a city in which everyone was armed to the teeth. No one fired but they were all armed. Then I entered some sort of building and around every corner I kept catching the same old couple having sex ಠ~ಠ Eventually I walked into a room with a group of people smoking weed. I hit it a couple times and woke up.

I take another 1/4 teaspoon. The taste is particularly strong this time. I dug into the bag instead of scooping from the top. It's sweeter.

**DemiFiend** · 08-02-2014 11:20 AM

Day 4:

Same lucidity and dream recall as day 3. The effects build very slowly indeed. I wonder how different it would be to use the full root form. I'm hoping to have profoundly vivid/lucid dreams within a week or two.

This dream was about floating down a crocodile infested river with some one. Our ship was sinking but the other person(who was "driving") didn't notice until I told them like a hundred times, then they quickly fixed it and we were not eaten.

I take 1/4 teaspoon. I also take a pinch about 1/4th the size of a pea and swash that around my mouth, then swallow right before bed.

**DemiFiend** · 08-03-2014 09:06 AM

Day 5:

At last! I am fully immersed in the dream world this time. Not aware I'm dreaming, but in full control of my "body" and making my own decisions.

In this dream I an a shinobi of the Hidden Leaf Village(yes, Naruto). I'm on a dock at night where a battle is taking place. Two large cargo ships go by that leave a heavy smog in their wake and I'm told by my comrades that they're ships from the Cloud village taking equipment to a lab facility designed to create artificial jinchuriki. I decided I would sneak in and use their technology to make myself a monsterously powerful jinchuriki. I thank my comrades for the info and take off after the ships. Shortly after I see a HUGE weird looking building in the direction the ships are going. I speed past them and look for an entrance to this place. There's a gate, and this robot the size of a doll tries to attack me from behind the gate with a tiny warhammer. I open it, wrench the hammer from it and toss it off into some nearby brush. Hearing some people heading my way(from the ships I take it), I quickly go in where I'm faced with a much larger version of the tiny robot. It starts to move toward me and I get an idea. I shapeshift a little(a dream power I've been practicing) to look mechanical, use stiff movements and greet it in a soulless, metallic voice while going about my business. It backs away and starts patrolling again. I make my way through the facility pretending to be a new model of android patrolling the base. The labcoat clad workers don't even give me a second glance, except for one that asks me to sweep an area, which I obey to keep a low profile. Unfortunately I wake up while sweeping. I'll never know if I got the power I sought out in the dream. Oh well.

I take slightly more than 1/4 teaspoon. I've also had some chamomile today, we'll see if that affects my experience or not. Ordered some Synaptolepis Kirkii, which should arrive in a few days. I could find even less information about this root, but wish to try it with Silene Capensis.

**DemiFiend** · 08-04-2014 05:25 AM

Day 6:

My dreams are vivid, but I have 0 recall. I'll refrain from drinking any chamomile from now on.

I take another 1/4 teaspoon.

**DemiFiend** · 08-05-2014 11:51 AM

Day 7: Very vivid, and lucid, though I was a bit out of my mind.

My recall is still shaky after the chamomile, but I remember jumping long distances from rooftop to rooftop and something about me plotting to merge the dream world with reality so I could be in my own world 24/7.

I take another 1/4 teaspoon.

**DemiFiend** · 08-06-2014 05:37 AM

Day 8:

Recall still isn't much better. I'm not sure if it's the chamomile anymore. Had a dream that was mostly a movie style journey. Very vivid. At the end of it I was a soldier in an FPS game.

I take another 1/4 teaspoon.

**Virtualucidity** · 08-06-2014 07:44 AM

Nice log, thanks for informing us about this. Apparently this root can be bought on Amazon fairly inexpensively and it's very highly regarded, I may just have to get myself some. If nothing else it seems to help with dream recall and vividness, and seeing as I tend to have very mundane dreams with rather vague recall, it can't hurt to try it.

**DemiFiend** · 08-07-2014 04:29 AM

Yeah it's definitely active. I may not be getting quite as strong of effects as quickly because mine was in powdered form, but for what I paid it's working very well. I hope the Kirkii takes it to the next level.

Day 9: Starting from the part I remember, I was trying to keep from sliding off the top of a wall, which is at an angle and covered in icey goo. I slip and slide and find myself hanging on the edge(I luckily caught a hole in the ice). A black man comes to help. He seems to know how the ice works and has no problem with it. He tells me it's ice gel and hands me some sort of talisman(a black square with red lines dividing into 4 other black squares, like black tile with red grout). The moment it's in my hands I feel stronger and don't slip on the ice. We get to a safe spot. For some reason I think it would be funny to hold the talisman up to my lips and pretend to smoke it like a joint. It spins in my hand as I do this, like my lips and the talisman's tips are the same magnetic poles. I actually taste a light smoke. He smiles and does the same with an identical one of his own, actually blowing out a thick, black smoke. We have a little laugh, then I start hearing a heart beat and my vision shifts slightly. This ghostly whispering voice says "Jaaahhnnn Jasiiinnnnneee" and my eyes close against my will. I can't open my eyes no matter how hard I try. Shit, I'm blind! Oh fuck. I can still hear this heart beat. My new black friend says "he's destroying our hearts." I wake up.

Go back to sleep and dream about creating characters in a video game studio.

I take another 1/4 teaspoon upon waking.

**Machine1k** · 08-07-2014 11:00 AM

I just wanted to stop by this post and mention something I read on this lucid aide. It is said to work at its best when you take it first thing in the morning, as in take a large dose the first few days and then continue to keep it in your system for three months. This is supposed to be when the true effects of the SC really shines; although what I was reading was based off the actual root and they were talking about storing it in cold water and mixing it every morning and drinking the froth from the vigorous stirring.

I am interested in trying this myself, but I will wait to see your results and then decide. Please keep us updated!

**DemiFiend** · 08-08-2014 07:34 AM

Day 10: Recall is again fuzzy. I remember watching porn, being in some odd rainstorm, and room mates saying they had monsters in their room and wanted to sleep in mine. It was vivid, but hard to remember.

Another note: meat may reduce effects. I knew this before starting the log, but I still eat it. I don't have enough food to be that picky.

I wake up and take another 1/4 teaspoon.

**DemiFiend** · 08-09-2014 08:10 AM

Day 10:

I dream that my "grandfather" (I don't consider him relation, nor do many others in my family. Not blood related either. He's a psycho and a scumbag.) is living with me. He's causing trouble around the neighborhood and trying to slip drugs into my food, but I catch him every time.

The dreams are becoming closer to looking and feeling real.

I take another 1/4 teaspoon.

EDIT: I've taken 25mg of Diphenhydramine for itchy eyes, and will see how this affects the dreams for the next day or two. I'm sure it will have some effect as it affects acetylcholine receptors. Usually I just deal but shit man my eyes were itchy. Kinda wished I had just dealed. I feel like shit, have a headache with some mild chest pains, but I believe it's partially a panic reaction. I am very sensitive to anti-histamine/anti-cholinergic.

**DemiFiend** · 08-10-2014 09:59 AM

Day 11:

Vivid dreams, 0 recall. Fuckin DPH.

Still waiting on the Kirkii.

I take another 1/4 teaspoon.

**ponyp2045** · 08-10-2014 09:07 PM

Originally Posted by DemiFiend

Another note: meat may reduce effects. I knew this before starting the log, but I still eat it. I don't have enough food to be that picky.

I'm going to try this herb soon, and I've also read that it's best to limit meat/protein intake before/while using it. This seems to be the consensus amongst both online sellers and random people on drugs or dreaming-related forums.

Is there any scientific basis behind this claim, though, or is it just some sort of (physically useless, no offense to any tribespeople who might be reading) spiritual tradition carried over from Africa? Has anyone conducted an experiment where they try using the herb with and without meat/protein intake?

I'm going to assume that it's true, just in case, because I'm pessimistic and every LD-related drug seems to hate me. If anyone here could prove to me that it's unnecessary, though, it would save me quite a bit of annoyance over the next few weeks.

**DemiFiend** · 08-11-2014 09:13 AM

Originally Posted by ponyp2045

Is there any scientific basis behind this claim, though, or is it just some sort of (physically useless, no offense to any tribespeople who might be reading) spiritual tradition carried over from Africa? Has anyone conducted an experiment where they try using the herb with and without meat/protein intake?

I believe it's African tradition, but I don't think it's based on spiritual stuff. Pretty sure they just noticed it's more effective when you don't eat meat. I dunno..

Day 12: Shit's gettin' real, yo.

Time is stretching farther and things are getting more detailed, and I'm starting to feel things more crisply. Some characters switched between male and female frequently. Most of my dream was centered around a girl that slipped through my fingers. Trying to get between her and her boyfriend but she would have none of it. It was a sad dream in multiple aspects. Also remember running through a huge series of nets/tents. There were hundreds of other people just standing in these net-walled rooms. There were random doors on the walls. As I went through them, the rooms got darker and there were fewer people, until I was left in total darkness, alone.

The whole dream was rather depressing. I could go for a bowl, but I'll refrain from it so I don't fuck the log up.

**DemiFiend** · 08-12-2014 10:46 AM

Day 13:

Climbed a fuggin' HUGE tower and there was an alien base on top of it. Then at some point that transitioned into floating down a very beautiful river.

Neat.

I take another 1/4 teaspoon.

**DemiFiend** · 08-13-2014 12:59 PM

Day 14:

All I remember is walking through a grocery store and stealing chocolate.

I feel as if I've about reached the limit of what this will do for me. It's fairly unpredictable but is always pretty vivid. I'm STILL waiting on the fuckin' Kirkii, and getting a little impatient.

I take another 1/4 teaspoon.

**DemiFiend** · 08-15-2014 02:38 PM

I'll be updating regularly again once the Kirkii arrives.

**DemiFiend** · 08-19-2014 05:42 PM

Kirkii has arrived, I will be taking some before bed tonight.

**DemiFiend** · 08-20-2014 11:43 AM

Day 1(post Kirkii):

Uh, well, I woke up about 2 hours after going to bed, took a piss, and go to lay back down. I close my eyes and have CEVs while feeling too stimulated to sleep. Pretty intense CEVS(these were hypnagogic. Closed my eyes several times while writing this to check and they are gone). What the fuck. I feel fuckin' weird and a little tripped out. An area of my gum is a little swollen. I sit up and start feeling shaky. Feel constricted, overly stimulated and go into a panic attack. Headache, chest discomfort(with some pain), and a constricted feeling led me to believe I was having an adverse reaction. Once I take a minute and breathe I realize it was only a panic attack, but I do feel...off, and my throat is a little irritated. On another note my mind feels very clear. Thoughts seem to possess less of a mental fog than usual. It does contain a nootropic, but whether or not my cognitive function is actually any better off I couldn't say. I'm having very mild but quite noticable open eyed visual distortions. As far as dreams go, I'm not sure how much of an effect mixing them had(I also don't know how I would react to Kirkii alone), then again I only slept for about 2 hours and who knows how much REM sleep I actually got. I still feel very awake and don't think I could go to sleep if I layed down. Probably should be taken in the morning.

EDIT: The swelling of the gums was similar to the swelling that happens when a piece of food gets stuck in between two teeth for a while, and may have been a tiny piece of apple skin(last thing I ate before bed). Can't find it though. Also I had taken 200mg Kirkii 30 minutes before bed.

**DemiFiend** · 08-22-2014 03:06 AM

Day 2(Post Kirkii):

I took another 200mg a few hours before bed. I still woke up stimulated but it wasn't quite as bad. I feel much more rested than usual. In my dream I was handed a green ball. "I don't care what anyone says, this is the most powerful weapon." It was some kind of multi-purpose magic gum. I don't remember much other than that. The imagery is very vivid, but my recall is still pretty bad. I'm not sure if it's my diet or what. I can't seem to remember dreams very well. Also, it's strange. It's almost as if the root has it's own personality and after I wake up it talks to me as I lay there. Not necessarily audible, but a conversation in my head. It also speaks through written words and imagery when I have my eyes closed. Having a conversation with my subconscious while awake was not something I was expecting.

**Machine1k** · 08-22-2014 09:48 AM

That sounds like hypnogogic (or is it hypnopompic after waking I forget) imagery, (forgot the sounds very of this word) and I don't think that's a bad sign. Interesting and promising too.. Do you by chance keep a dream journal that you update daily for each dream? Also, if you are concerned about diet, I hear anything with sugar is bad for dream recall, maybe cut down on that? I know you mentioned protein affecting the root, but to that end I have no idea.

Thanks for the updates..

**DemiFiend** · 08-23-2014 01:12 AM

Originally Posted by Machine1k

Do you by chance keep a dream journal that you update daily for each dream? Also, if you are concerned about diet, I hear anything with sugar is bad for dream recall, maybe cut down on that? I know you mentioned protein affecting the root, but to that end I have no idea.

I should keep a journal, but I don't. I haven't heard about sugar and dream recall. I do consume quite a bit of sugar(not ridiculous amounts though, and I don't drink soda), maybe that has some part in it.

I forgot to mention that I stopped taking the Silene when I got the Kirkii. I will re-introduce Silene slowly to gauge how it reacts. It does build up and should still be in my system, but I haven't found any reports of these two being taken together(though I'm sure they're probably used together in traditional brews) and they both seem to possess stimulant properties(Kirkii more so than Silene). I developed a panic disorder from an overdose of 25i-nBOMe that I was hospitalized for. The first 6 months after my body would randomly release large amounts of adrenaline, making my body feel numb with extreme anxiety and a feeling of impending doom. For the most part I'm better, but some times taking things puts my body into a shock of sorts, which results in the symptoms I've reported on here from the DPH and the first time I took Kirkii(chest pain, over-stimulated feeling, among other things). I suppose it's a subconscious fear of being poisoned.

Day 3(Post Kirkii): Took another 200mg. Still no recall. All I can remember from my vague memory is that my dreams seem to last a lot longer on kirkii. If recall does not improve within a couple more days taking it I will try supplements and diet change.