Mutual Lucid? Or coincidence?

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09-23-2011, 02:09 PM
sharkanana

Mutual Lucid? Or coincidence?

This is the dream in question.

I just wanted to see what people thought about this occurrence.

So my brother is a lucid dreamer, but doesn't post here and hasn't read much about it. Most of the information he has about it came from me.

So his ability to recall and control the dream world are lesser than mine, which should be accounted for.

Here are the parts with him in it.

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I leave the bathroom and enter a room with hardwood floors, it is kind of a dumpy room that reminds me of one of my friends houses. My brother is present.

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Joe is standing on some stairs and I run to him, and say "Joe! You are lucid dreaming!" He kind of chuckles and dismisses the comment, then I say, "Joe! You are!" And it looks like he realizes it, and has that Eureka! expression on his face.

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Me and Joe are then leaving the mall, going to my car for some reason. I try to fly and fail, Joe does as well. I grab his arm and try to fly together and we float up for a bit then fall, like a super jump. Joe does this individually, laughing at the result. A guy in a motorcycle outfit(helmet included) attacks me, I kick him and elbow him in the helmet and he is knocked out. Joe and I fight a few more "bad guys" and then I wake.

I woke from this dream around 6am.

The next day, I asked my brother over text if he dreamed the night before. He said, "Yes, and I was lucid and summoned you into my dream."

Then I asked what happened in his dream, not telling him anything about mine and he said,

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"I summoned you to the back deck, and asked you what the meaning of life is. You laughed as if I already knew and said Joe, There is no meaning to life". Then it ended.

He also mentioned that his dream occured early in the morning, before school. Which puts it somewhere around 6 or 7.

Just the fact that I had succeeded in making him aware of lucidity in the dream, then contacting him IRL and finding out that he had a lucid around the same time....kinda freaks me out, and excites me!

Anyone have a similar experience? Next time I hope to try and transfer a code word to him.
09-23-2011, 02:21 PM
marwanin

This is called shared dreams. and its very common thing
Congrats.
09-23-2011, 02:25 PM
sharkanana

When talking of shared dreams, is lucidity normally implied? Or not?
09-23-2011, 02:29 PM
Arch

Personally I don't think there is enough sync to be classed as a Shared Dream, cool dream though ;)
09-23-2011, 02:30 PM
marwanin

Not always, you can share dreams with NON-Lucids

even you can both be non-lucids and share a dream !
09-23-2011, 04:36 PM
unda

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Originally Posted by marwanin

This is called shared dreams. and its very common thing
Congrats.

If "shared dreams" means having a dream involving a person on the same night as they have a dream involving you, then yes. I'd imagine that kind of coincidence is incredibly common and happens thousands of times to everyone, there's nothing supernatural, or even particularly interesting about it.

Sharkanana, it must be clear to you that you and your brother had totally different dreams. There's nothing mutual about your dreams, you weren't having the same dream as each other. If you and your brother are both practising lucid dreaming, and presumably have dreams involving each other all the time, then to see it as any more than a coincidence would be completely irrational.
09-23-2011, 06:23 PM
sharkanana

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Originally Posted by unda

Sharkanana, it must be clear to you that you and your brother had totally different dreams. There's nothing mutual about your dreams, you weren't having the same dream as each other. If you and your brother are both practising lucid dreaming, and presumably have dreams involving each other all the time, then to see it as any more than a coincidence would be completely irrational.

Yes, this is definitely the most likely situation. But my brother hasn't ever mentioned a lucid dream with me, and I have never had a lucid dream with him.
And he said that he "summoned" me, which one could say there is congruence in my dream because I "changed rooms" and appeared in a new place with him already there.
In many reported mutual dreams, things are distorted and seen differently by both parties. It could be concluded that since my brother is so inexperienced, the distortion is far greater.

Those are far stretches though, so it does seem that the most plausible explanation is that this was coincidence.