The fabric of dreamspace

[Spenner]

This was an interesting experience... Typically in a lucid dream I'm much more involved with the BIGGER pictures, the larger objects, not the fundamentals holding those bigger dream objects together. In the lucid dream I had last night, I was suddenly compelled to examine the walls of the room I was in. At first, I noticed a slight bit of movement, and a bit of colour fringe, when I was able to let myself stare as still as possible. In my lucid control I attempted to "Freeze time" in a way that would make me believe the scene was more stable. I could tell that, to a point, there was an instability out of my control, because it was moving no matter what. It mighta been specific to this dream, but it felt like an inherent movement that just has to do with the fabric of the dream. Anyhow, as I walked closer to the wall, I noticed more details. It looked like the pores of skin, in a way; the creases were slightly deep, but there was a look of blue, yellow, and white electricity pulsing through the cells of the "skin". It was very thin electrical current, thinner than hairs. As I approached closer, the pore creases deepened, as if my view was more "fisheye" aswell, when I attempted to focus in the very center of my vision. There was a very psychedelic look to the visuals, organic looking shapes, not unlike those described in these images: Spoiler for Examples of visual activity seen: This is an example of the movement type that was seen (slightly, it was more organic looking, much more naturally moving, and of course was NOT black and white, very coloured and detailed) ^I'd say that it looked like this when I was maybe 1 foot away from the wall. Even closer, with that movement, it became more detailed like this All the while, further back, it looked a bit like this ^photo credits: ME I took this macro photo of the skin of my knuckles awhile back; the walls sort of had this pattern from further away, maybe 10 feet it was noticeable Further back, there was noticeable movement and activity, especially with veins of electricity running VERY thinly through the walls but only after staring for awhile. There was some subtle textural movement, but all in all from far away it seemed to be stable. Up close, it became far less stable. Has anyone else experienced things like this having to do with the more subtle details of their dreams, and ultimately, with what is holding up the actual architecture of their dreams? My hypothesis would be that the elements up close in my dream MUST keep moving in order to constantly render themselves, to give themselves physicality. Otherwise, it will just dissolve into something else. It needs to make itself an "obvious" part of the space, by being active, or something like that. that was some crazy stuff to look at nonetheless, this is going to be my new area of dream research! I want to see how consistent this sort of thing is-- maybe I'll build tools in my dreams, invent an isolation mechanism to take a "part" of the dream and just analyze it. or look at it under a microscope. Obviously things are of the imagination but the point of what I was doing here is trying my best to just let the dream BE, not to tamper with anything at all, and just watch it go at as small of a scale I could. A fun discovery

[Sageous]

i did this for a while some years back, but I found out pretty quickly that the "fabric" of my dreams was exactly what I expected it to be. Basically, no fabric or structure ever existed until I bent low to examine it. That said, the act of doing this sort of discovery was most rewarding, as I learned things about my expectations, my imagination, and I think about how my dreaming mind accomodates my wishes. Also, doing things like this are like dream-control calithenics, so well worth doing.

[Spenner]

I had a feeling that it was something anticipatory, that was a result of what I almost expected there to be. I've been in a frame of mind where I've been wondering more about particle physics, and how particles can't really stay put, so maybe that has something to do with the metaphor of them being constantly in motion. It was really fascinating to experience nonetheless, and I feel like this would be a great way to visualize some abstract concepts, such as imagining what atoms look like when they play together, and that sort of thing. The whole organic view of it all reminded me of a psychedelic experience I once had. Also similarly, I found that I was exploring the dream with the same sense of positivity and wonder that I was observing the real world in the psychedelic mindframe. All in all this was really fun, and I definitely want to play more with this, and go even deeper, even feel like I'm planck length, to see what my mind can model for it

[Runeword]

another case of expectation dictates the experience