Dream comedians

**Ex Nine** · 12-13-2005 02:21 AM

I'd like to hear if any of you have had light-hearted lucid experiences where a DC tells a funny joke. You know, a joke that would be funny in the real world.

It was an LD goal I thought of extemporaneously last night. I was in a kind of VIP room of someone's penthouse party, on a really tall building. Wow it must have been 70 stories. Anyways, I wasn't really looking out the window, but since I had to get into the room first by navigating impossibly from a 3rd person perspective from the outside of the building, I knew I was dreaming, and proceeded to party knowing this was my place. Still, it's kind of fun to hold back lucidity for a while around DCs, as a little experiment to see how they react. They usually do not behave any differently.

Then I walked out to the party and telepathically broadcasted, "is there anyone here who represents my creative side?"

Everyone looked around and moved aside to let a few people who were sheepishly raising their hands in a way to mean, "you mean me?" One was a girl among a group of girls.

Now making her the center of attention I said, "yeah... do you know any good jokes?"

"Sure!" she said, happy to be talking in front of everyone.

I sat back to let things play out, curious.

Nothing she said was funny. She spoke entirely too quickly, in that characteristically valley girl sort of gossip quickness, and took entirely too long. When she was done a modest amount of people laughed. "Who's next?" another one of the creative girls said, excitedly.

This could be fun, I thought, a sort of competition. One of them came out of their own, and said something that made more people laugh. I laughed with them in good cheer but had been disappointed at my subconscious.

I was trying to stay in a mindset of objectivity, to see a really good objectively funny joke. Apparently that side of my subconscious was not manifestly attending this party.

Then for my own amusement, I picked out someone who in real life was never funny, and had them go next. That's when the dream ended. My mind went totally kaput at the thought of what they might say.

Serves me right. Comedy's like 90% in the delivery... But in dreams it's 100%. You could be looking at a cheesecake and something would just tickle that part of your brain and cause you to laugh. And it would be really really funny in a dream.

But how about in real life?

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My poor DCs. I expect too much from them.

**Genjyo** · 12-13-2005 03:23 AM

Originally posted by Ex Nine

Serves me right. Comedy's like 90% in the delivery... But in dreams it's 100%. You could be looking at a cheesecake and something would just tickle that part of your brain and cause you to laugh. And it would be really really funny in a dream.

I'd just like to mention it is a blast waking up laughing. You start feeling the tickles in your dream and (physical?) stomach and then transfer over to your waking reality laughing without end. It's quite a rigorous workout!

**Tornado Joe** · 12-13-2005 03:57 AM

Well, I can't recall having something really funny happen in a dream resulting directly from of a joke, but I imagine (for me anyways) laughter (or "funnyness") in a dream is more of a feeling I would get not particularly from a specific event in a dream - but more from the need for it or a situation in a dream. Sort of like the cheesecake thing you describe.

For example, many people experience performing wonderful music, even complete symphonies in a dream - even if they don't know how to play an instrument. Upon waking up they can't remember how it went, though. This leads me to believe that maybe there isn't exactly a wonderful symphony happening at all in the dream, but the idea of a wonderful symphony - like the "dream director" (as one of the instructors at the dream camp I attended recently called it) creates the dream, with the characters and events in it, and just comes to a point where it says "insert the feeling of experiencing most beautiful symphony ever here".

I have experienced this phenomenon in the past in non-lucids. Another experience I had was one where I got really upset with a professor who was giving a fellow classmate a hard time. I got up and totally went off on this bitch with this long and elaborate rant - can't remember a single thing I said, but I felt like fucking Dennis Leary or something - all I knew is that whatever I said totally cut this person down. So, question for me was more like did I really say anything - or did my mind just say "insert memory of killer rant here".

I'm not sure from what you described if this is the same - maybe I'm not making any sense

? Not sure do you remember exactly what the jokes were or do you just remember that it wasn't funny?

**Ex Nine** · 12-13-2005 04:16 AM

I totally know what you mean, Genjyo!

Originally posted by Tornado Joe
I'm not sure from what you described if this is the same - maybe I'm not making any sense ? Not sure do you remember exactly what the jokes were or do you just remember that it wasn't funny?

Good question. I remember just not being able to follow along, like her voice turned to background noise very quickly and I could not maintain an interest.

I know what you mean about the "insert feeling of good music" here, and I agree mostly. I think the feeling is very dominant over the actual music. And in this instance, the feeling of something being funny is way dominant over the actual joke or funny thing that happened.

But must it always be like this? Or is it just a habit or an accident? While in HI I can hear music sometimes, and I think, wow this is great, but I try to make it out while waking back up, and it actually reminds me of music I've heard before, just with different instrumentation, rhythm, vocals, etc. I remember feeling kind of disappointed that I was not working on something very original.

But then that's how it goes, normally, right? Very hard to just think up of something out of the blue. Even if you're performing music through improvisation, or doing improvised comedy sports for that matter, some general part of your material has to have already been practiced previously, some technique or anticipatory method of movement.

So that's what I'm interested in, in this thread. If anyone has ever had anything that goes beyond the simple feeling.

**justsomeguy** · 12-13-2005 08:59 AM

ive heard some great jokes in my dreams that i remember after i wake up... but then i realize that in reality the jokes are not funny at all... or that they are inside jokes that only i can understand

**Ex Nine** · 12-13-2005 09:05 AM

Originally posted by justsomeguy
... or that they are inside jokes that only i can understand

That's another thing. Dreams can sometimes offer the ultimate inside joke.

Ahhh! Does it ever bother you that you can't share them?

**Tornado Joe** · 12-13-2005 08:22 PM

Originally posted by X9
Very hard to just think up of something out of the blue. Even if you're performing music through improvisation, or doing improvised comedy sports for that matter, some general part of your material has to have already been practiced previously, some technique or anticipatory method of movement.

So that's what I'm interested in, in this thread. If anyone has ever had anything that goes beyond the simple feeling.

I would imagine that anything that goes beyond \"simple feeling\" would be too hard to describe to anyone through text or speech. I mean it seems to be our nature to use previous experiences or \"practiced material\" to explain the things that go outside or \"beyond\" our understanding. What else do we have? Take just about any joke in existence - it's only funny if you get it. Get what? We need a reference point to put the punchline in context.

Have you ever played that game called... Taboo? It's where you team up with a partner, one of you has to get the other to say the word at the top of a card that the other can't see - all while NOT using the other five words beneath it to help. So, for example, if the word is \"beach\", you can't say \"ocean, sand, sun, vacation...\"etc.

So there you are in a dream, you experience something that you try to describe as \"fullfilling, happy, content, enlightenment\" but yet somehow those words don't really quite get it. Because really, those words were taught to us by someone else - we were trained to use them. They are a reference for the \"simple\" feelings we all understand and can relate to. Crap, did I just go off on a tangent?

Anyway... ah:

Originally posted by X9
That's another thing. Dreams can sometimes offer the ultimate inside joke. Ahhh! Does it ever bother you that you can't share them?

Exactly! This is why we can't share these things, they are an inside, undescribable phenomenon.

So, you're likely to get an answer to your original question such as "Yep, I've experienced something beyond simple feeling..... just can't tell ya about it!"

**kafine** · 12-13-2005 09:50 PM

Originally posted by Ex Nine

Serves me right. Comedy's like 90% in the delivery... But in dreams it's 100%. You could be looking at a cheesecake and something would just tickle that part of your brain and cause you to laugh. And it would be really really funny in a dream.

But how about in real life?

I just KNOW I am going to have a fit of hysterics next time I see a cheesecake. Hooray!

Nobody in any of my dreams has ever told a joke. And I've never had a lucid dream with people in it yet, so there's no making them

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