do you have scars from lucid dreams? well i do!

last night i slept on the couch. Ok, i always sleep on the couch. Anyhow, i dreamt that there was a horse standing over me; and when i attempted to push him away and try to find out how the heck he got there, he locked and loaded on my hand like it was some kind of meal or something. The more i tried to yank away, the harder he bit down, until i finally snatched away and partially woke up.
just when i thought the beast was gone, i felt him breathing on me like he was some sick love slave! Weird huh! But the real hum dinger is i have bite marks on my left hand where the fellow bit me at!! Anyone else experience this kind of phenomenon? Well, i just happen to have a long list of experiences just like this one. If anyone would ever like to hear about them, just let me know!

Were they human bite marks or horse bite marks?

Well when you dream your body is paralyzed, so it couldn't have been yourself, lol. That's weird...maybe when your body stimulated the feeling it also stimulated the mark or something. I dunno, that's really weird, haha.

do you live on elm street?

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Well when you dream your body is paralyzed, so it couldn't have been yourself, lol. That's weird...maybe when your body stimulated the feeling it also stimulated the mark or something. I dunno, that's really weird, haha.

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Not everyone experiences the same level of sleep paralysis

Neo: I thought you said this wasn't real?

Morpheus: The mind makes it real.

The Matrix=Make Believe

I think you bit your hand. You said you parially woke up, so I'm guessing you could have been not paralyzed enough to do so, especially if it is the bite that woke you up.

There are those who believe that physical effects are possible from emotional states.
C.G. Jung writes in his memoirs:

While Freud was going on this way, I had a curious sensation. It was as if my diaphragm were made of iron and were becoming red-hot--a glowing vault. And at that moment there was such a loud report in the bookcase, which stood right next to us, that we both started up in alarm, fearing the thing was going to topple over on us. I said to Freud: 'There, that is an example of a so-called catalytic exteriorization phenomenon.' 'Oh come,' he exclaimed. 'That is sheer bosh.' 'It is not,' I replied. 'You are mistaken, Herr Professor. And to prove my point I now predict that in a moment there will be another such loud report! 'Sure enough, no sooner had I said the words that the same detonation went off in the bookcase. To this day I do not know what gave me this certainty. But I knew beyond all doubt that the report would come again. Freud only stared aghast at me. I do not know what was in his mind, or what his look meant. In any case, this incident aroused his distrust of me, and I had the feeling that I had done something against him. I never afterward discussed the incident with him."

In formulating his synchronicity principle, Jung was influenced to a profound degree by the "new" physics of the twentieth century, which had begun to explore the possible role of consciousness in the physical world. "Physics," wrote Jung in 1946, "has demonstrated...that in the realm of atomic magnitudes objective reality presupposes an observer, and that only on this condition is a satisfactory scheme of explanation possible."

"This means," he added, "that a subjective element attaches to the physicist's world picture, and secondly that a connection necessarily exists between the psyche to be explained and the objective space-time continuum." These discoveries not only helped loosen physics from the iron grip of its materialistic world-view, but confirmed what Jung recognized intuitively: that matter and consciousness - far from operating independently of each other--are, in fact, interconnected in an essential way, functioning as complementary aspects of a unified reality.

Others have spoken of similar causality behind poltergeist phenomena.

I suspect that unless someone experiences these phenomena they won't believe they are real.

While I agree that there is an outside possiblity that the vividness of the dream could have produced bite marks on his hand, I merely think that is is highly unlikely.

The problem with "phenomena" is that they are too often reported in only eye-witness accounts of a single person or two who happened to experience something abnormal. Whether or not there were supernatural causes for whatever they experienced, the world around them can only meet them with skepticism for they have no evidence of any kind to back up their claims. We do not know the extent to which the world around us can be influenced by extraordinary means, but we do know what is regularly observable. People become injured all the time in their dreams but wake up with nothing but a memory, if that, of the experience they encountered. Bookshelves collapse frequently because of a shoddy base, a shift in a building's foundation, or a displacent of weight which can cause pressure to slowly build up over time and then release. But what about the times when there are strange bumps in the night, scratches that appear in flesh in the morning, or things that are just plain weird during the day? Often the observer has just as much reason to believe that the cause was something supernatural rather than logical, because there is no evidence one way or the other. However, there has yet to be an experiment proving such things as being supernatural. Not that they aren't, but at this point it's just speculation.

People can write about things all they want, it doesn't make them more true

Just out of the blue, but do you have a dog, cat, some animal that can bite? maybe it was bitting down your hand while you dreamt and it incorporated to the dream

Yeah I have a few scars from my Lucid dreaming. I've also carried feelings of pain thru the dream and back into reality. The most memorable instance was when I was in a lucid dream and i got into and fight with someone, during the fight he hit me in the arm with a blunt object and when i woke up i had a bruise on my arm. It was realy feaky.

I would love the opportunity to take someone with these problems into a lab or to video them as they sleep.

It would reveal the source of the marks. If they are indeed caused by the dream, then you should be able to see them forming on the person as they sleep. Should be fascinating.

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I would love the opportunity to take someone with these problems into a lab or to video them as they sleep.

It would reveal the source of the marks. If they are indeed caused by the dream, then you should be able to see them forming on the person as they sleep. Should be fascinating.

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ditto.


i mean, what you hypothesize is possible, but i'd be wary to account it to dreaming just yet. it would make more sense that whatever caused the bruise, or bitemark in real life caused you to dream of a coinciding cause in your dream world.

the other night i had a LD where a police cuffed my right hand rather roughly, and soon after i woke up. my right wrist was quite sore. but, i merely took this to mean that my sore wrist caused me to dream of a dream cause.

Logical explanations... you bit your hand and you hit against something, hit your own arm, etc.

Ah well the mind can do more then you think. The stigmatas might have been caused in the same scientificly explainable way ^__^

I was walking through a cave and hit my head on a stalagtite once and it hurt, when I awoke my head was laying on the corner of my bedside table

its obvious that the person that started this thread is lying... if I woke up and there was a bite wound from my dreams on my hand i wouldnt be like "yay im special im gonna go to the forum and show off my specialness" i would be afraid for my life and post a thread about how horrified and afraid for my life i was, sad how someone would make such a stupid lie up just so they can be noticed

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its obvious that the person that started this thread is lying... if I woke up and there was a bite wound from my dreams on my hand i wouldnt be like \"yay im special im gonna go to the forum and show off my specialness\" i would be afraid for my life and post a thread about how horrified and afraid for my life i was, sad how someone would make such a stupid lie up just so they can be noticed

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dammit billybob, you'll scare him off! i know its (very) highly likely he's a lying sack of shit, but i was hoping we'd humour him, and next week he'd claim he'd woken up with stigmata, and was told in the preceding dream that he is the second coming of christ or something. :( :P

way to spoil all the fun :D

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dammit billybob, you'll scare him off! i know its (very) highly likely he's a lying sack of shit, but i was hoping we'd humour him, and next week he'd claim he'd woken up with stigmata, and was told in the preceding dream that he is the second coming of christ or something. :( :P

way to spoil all the fun :D

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hydraat_takiyah is a woman who does not need attention from any of you simpletons. If you'd tap into your own spirituality, if you even have a soul, you'd probably see what she means jackass!

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its obvious that the person that started this thread is lying... if I woke up and there was a bite wound from my dreams on my hand i wouldnt be like \"yay im special im gonna go to the forum and show off my specialness\" i would be afraid for my life and post a thread about how horrified and afraid for my life i was, sad how someone would make such a stupid lie up just so they can be noticed

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lock up your trailer really tight tonight so mr bogey doesn't get you dickweed!

Hydraat,
I hope you don't take the close mindedness and rudeness of BillyBob and Asher as representative of this board.

Apparently skepticism makes them blind to simple facts such as your gender.

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hydraat_takiyah is a woman who does not need attention from any of you simpletons. If you'd tap into your own spirituality, if you even have a soul, you'd probably see what she means jackass!

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:) i do tap into my spirituality. and have learnt enough to know if i have an experience that is out of the ordinary:

1. i do not expect others to believe it unless they know me well. i certainly wouldn't expect strangers online to believe me.

2. the simplest explanation is probably the best explanation (even if it means my 'spiritual" experience is downgraded to something less exciting, which is almost always the case, as unappealing as that may be)

3. i don't get all defensive and call people jackasses if they don't take my word on something unusual. if it was a legitimate spiritual experience, it doesn't matter what others think. and furthermore, spiritual experiences generally make me less apt to call people childish names for being skeptical.

i meant no offence, but i certainly don't think what happened to you was a spiritual event (or likely even happened). i agree with what billybob said- personally i would be scared out of my wits if that actually happened. i wouldn't post it on a forum and expect people to believe it has some supernatural cause.

and Asclepius, personally, i believe that jung was truthful in his account , which you related. but i only believe that it actually occured because he comes across as cogent, rational, and discriminating (on the whole). in other words, he earned my respect and a certain measure of trust.

this person does not seem as discriminating or rational, and seems quick to attribute things unneccessarily to 'spiritual' causes. hence i didn't even bother to double-check what gender she was, as her entire account and story seems fabricated, or footed more in fancy than scientific examination.



hydraat_takiyah, if you have a webcam, please post some pictures of your scars...

I have only ever had this problem once. I woke and my foot was hurting. In my dream I was kicking someone. I know how the pain was caused as I woke kicking my bedroom wall.

Listen up guys. Yes I did take offense to being called a liar, and i didn't have to resort to name calling. What you guys don't overstand is, i don't even share these things with my friends and family because they all think i'm nuts!!! This kind of stuff has been happening to me for as long as i can remember, and there's really no one i can share my experiences with. That's why i'm so thankful that i found this message board in the first place. I mean do you guys even know what lucid dreaming is? well, you're really gonna think i'm crazy when i tell you this!! As you'll well know, i sleep on the couch(no love life lol.)
so one night, i was asleep and i felt this weight on me, you know, like someone is actually laying on you. So i look up and there's this guy there, but i couldn't really see him, but i could feel his weight on me, but i could kind of see him. I don't expect for you guys to overstand what i am talkling about but it is most certainly true. I never spoke to him aloud, we spoke telepathicly. I asked him who he was and he just smiled at me. I asked him what are you doing here, and he had so much lust in his eyes like he wanted to have sex; hence the feelings or should i say vibes i got from him( also got the vibe that it indeed was a male entity.) He kept trying to force himself on me and i asked him very politely to leave at which that time he basically refused. I told him to get the hell outta here and leave me alone, at which that point i got completely up and prayed and meditated and formed a psychic ball of protection around me and slept peacfully for the rest of the night. It's like, when i dream, even though i wouldn't call that a dream, i smell, taste feel, and invision things like i'm not even asleep at all. Like about two weeks ago, i was having this dream where i was bungy jumping in some body of water and on the last plunge, there was something holding me under saying(telepathicaly) "you know this is what you want isn't, this is what you want." i kept saying no, this is not what i want. it was so disturning that i jump out of my sleep and didn't go back!! yet it was very calming and soothing, like someone was trying to coax me to kill myself!!! Weird huh. YOu guys may as well start calling me RIPLEY, because i've got a million of em'!!!!
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