Experiences with God

Im wondering if anyone else has had an experience with lucid dreaming where they met G(g)od(s). I'll recall mine if you dont mind.

I was sailing on a large wooden ship on a fairly unsettled river which was running through a huge cavern with what seemed like 150 or so meter high walls. Once I realized I was dreaming and entered a lucid state I began to float/fly and decided that I would like to visit God and ask it/him/her/they a question. I proceeded to climb up the wall of the cave and climbed over a crevice. There was God. She sat on a simlple yet elegant throne inside a room carved out of the wall with natural stone pillars. She was a littel girl with beautiful curls and wearing an elegant white dress. She smiled at me because she knew the question and the answer without me having asked. I was so amazed I lost control of my lucidness and drifted over the ledge and towards the water, then awoke.

Any other takes on God??

I realize this is probably just a reflection of my own psychology, but was interested if any others have experienced something similar.

Best,
Carlos O.

A few times.

One main one, I was in this field for the most part. It seemed that I was being moved around and I was headed to some central place. I finnaly got there and I was judged and accepted by God. (Into heaven). And I walked in a house that was his and I was really happy. Greatest feeling ever. And he offered me a drink and we talked and stuff. A little while later I awoke.

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Originally posted by TheUniverseIsOne
Im wondering if anyone else has had an experience with lucid dreaming where they met G(g)od(s). *I'll recall mine if you dont mind.

I was sailing on a large wooden ship on a fairly unsettled river which was running through a huge cavern with what seemed like 150 or so meter high walls. *Once I realized I was dreaming and entered a lucid state I began to float/fly and decided that I would like to visit God and ask it/him/her/they a question. *I proceeded to climb up the wall of the cave and climbed over a crevice. * There was God. *She sat on a simlple yet elegant throne inside a room carved out of the wall with natural stone pillars. *She was a littel girl with beautiful curls and wearing an elegant white dress. *She smiled at me because she knew the question and the answer without me having asked. *I was so amazed I lost control of my lucidness and drifted over the ledge and towards the water, then awoke.

Any other takes on God??

I realize this is probably just a reflection of my own psychology, but was interested if any others have experienced something similar.

Best,
Carlos O.

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You see God and yet you are the first to cast an Atheistic interpretation upon it. Is that Gratitude for your vision, or what?

What.

But when you are finished siding with the enemy, you would make a fine Marian Catholic. Yes, I know that the Bishops quite insist that Catholics should not worship Mary as Holy, but every true Marian quite ignores grand and pompous Bishops who might as well be Protestants for all of their contempt for Mary.

You see, Mary, or your Divine Goddess, is not just a figment of Psychology. Though having a strong Subjective Presence in the Collective Consciousness, even in the Realms of Objective Reality your Goddess has made her presence known. In addition to all of the Goddess Apparitions in the Orient (the Hindus have visions of a number of Aspects of Feminine Divinity), the Catholic Traditions cite an objective History of more than a half dozen Major Apparitions of Feminine Divinity which they have investigated and certified to the highest legal if not scientific standards.

don't let these atheists talk you out of your vision, and most of all, don't talk yourself out of your Vision.

And, yes, it has been very common for the Blessed Virgin to appear as a very young girl. There are certain dangers of appearing as a nubile young woman, that some people may react to Her beauty in ways that are not entirely religious in nature. So the Blessed Virgin often appears in a guise which cannot be anything other than Virginal, that is as a very young girl. And She likewise sometimes appears as an older woman. When She appears to children, women and well disciplined men of ascetic tendency, She allows Herself to be displayed as though in Her prime of Life.

But moving on...

Technically you did not see God. You saw the Feminine Intermediary to God. Yes, this is tantamount to the same thing, but different only when one evaluates the Catalogue of Religious Experiences. The Highest Experience of God is quite overwhelming and involves a sense of being incorporated into God in an ineffeble sense of Bliss in which one's self melts into the Universal.

Then there are other lower experiences. I myself was confronted by an Angel of God whereby I automatically dropped to my knees and tears seemed to explode from my eyes, not as an emotional response but a physiological one. The Angel of God appeared as a Entity of Fiery Lights. These Lights were an indication of a closer approach to the Actual God.

The Female Deity comes to you as a Sponsor who would eventually guide you to this Divine Light, if you would go along with Her.

i have not had a meeting god in a dream experience myself, but my wife has.

she was at the house of a good friend of ours, janet. a big party was going on. she wandered upstairs at the house. the upstairs of the house was HUGE. it had many corridors, many rooms. she would look into each of the rooms as she walked through. some of them were libraries, some of them were observatories, some were groups of people sitting around smoking pot, some sitting around playing video games, some studying or reading, some watching tv or movies, some playing sports, some rooms were actually fields, etc., outside. basically many different rooms with many different thing to do. something for everyone. wander long enough and you will find a room that you are interested in. eventually, she ran in janet. she said something like, "janet, this house is really cool. i really like it here. if you ever have any openings or something, let me know, because i would like to move in." janet said something like, "nancy, in my house, there are many rooms. you can come whenever you like." she then woke up with a profound sense of peace and comfort. of course, our interpretation of this dream is that janet represented god, and her house represented heaven.

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Originally posted by Leo Volont
You see God and yet you are the first to cast an Atheistic interpretation upon it. *Is that Gratitude for your vision, or what?

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Leo, how and why did you interpret what TheUniverselsOne said about his dream as being atheist? Seems to me he was just being realistic, acknowleging the dream was a manifestation of his own psychology, instead of reading too much into it (like you are accustomed to doing :wink: ).

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Originally posted by TheUniverseIsOne
Im wondering if anyone else has had an experience with lucid dreaming where they met G(g)od(s). *I'll recall mine if you dont mind.

I was sailing on a large wooden ship on a fairly unsettled river which was running through a huge cavern with what seemed like 150 or so meter high walls. *Once I realized I was dreaming and entered a lucid state I began to float/fly and decided that I would like to visit God and ask it/him/her/they a question. *I proceeded to climb up the wall of the cave and climbed over a crevice. * There was God. *She sat on a simlple yet elegant throne inside a room carved out of the wall with natural stone pillars. *She was a littel girl with beautiful curls and wearing an elegant white dress. *She smiled at me because she knew the question and the answer without me having asked. *I was so amazed I lost control of my lucidness and drifted over the ledge and towards the water, then awoke.

Any other takes on God??

I realize this is probably just a reflection of my own psychology, but was interested if any others have experienced something similar.

Best,
Carlos O.

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I think of God the way the Bible describes him. As a man :wink:

I have never met him in any of my dreams, I guess I can try though...

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Originally posted by kage23
i have not had a meeting god in a dream experience myself, but my wife has.

she was at the house of a good friend of ours, janet. a big party was going on. she wandered upstairs at the house. the upstairs of the house was HUGE. it had many corridors, many rooms. she would look into each of the rooms as she walked through. some of them were libraries, some of them were observatories, some were groups of people sitting around smoking pot, some sitting around playing video games, some studying or reading, some watching tv or movies, some playing sports, some rooms were actually fields, etc., outside. basically many different rooms with many different thing to do. something for everyone. wander long enough and you will find a room that you are interested in. eventually, she ran in janet. she said something like, "janet, this house is really cool. i really like it here. if you ever have any openings or something, let me know, because i would like to move in." janet said something like, "nancy, in my house, there are many rooms. you can come whenever you like." she then woke up with a profound sense of peace and comfort. of course, our interpretation of this dream is that janet represented god, and her house represented heaven.

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Actually Janet's House is not unlike the World. In certain metaphysical systems it is allowed that diversity and polarity even ascend up through some of the Spiritual Planes.

But God is Unitary. Different Rooms are necessarily below God. Different Rooms are still proving for individual souls. But the Highest of Mystical Experiences are all about Oneness.

Yes, I know that Christ had said that in His Father's Heaven there are many mansions. Also, I have heard Seers and Prophets talk in terms of a Central Heaven or a City of Heaven which is all One in the Light of God, but that outside of those Walls are those Souls that still can't totally surrender their charished individuality and who cling to the last vestiges of ego.

Remember what Dante said about Hell -- "Abandon all hope you who enter here". But the Highest Heaven of the Purest God must have a similar sign which says "Abandon your very self you who enter here". You see, the Purest Heaven cannot be contaminated by anything that is other than God. So, to be close enough to experience God, one must loosen one's sense of identity barriers and actually merge into God and forget all about ever having been a separate self. This is the Mystical Experience to which Christ referred when He said that He and His Father are One. Christ had gone through that Gate beyond the Self.

Also in the Hindus Bhagavad Gita we have the same distinction. We find that there is a Paradise of the Demigods and astral planes of bliss and reward. But these Astral Realms are transitory, and though quite rarified and ethereal, still in some sense 'material'. Krishna Ram transcends that to that Pure State of Unitary Oneness I've been talking about.

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Originally posted by burns91


Leo, how and why did you interpret what TheUniverselsOne said about his dream as being atheist? Seems to me he was just being realistic, acknowleging the dream was a manifestation of his own psychology, instead of reading too much into it (like you are accustomed to doing *:wink: ).

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Well, wouldn't an Atheist claim that he is being "realistic". Look at what this realism does. By submitting to this materialistic realism he is dismissing his vision as essentially meaningless.

Then there is the 'realistic' assumption that our dreams are entirely limited to influences restricted to our own neuro-biology. Is that really reasonable? When we know so much about PSI Potentials and with Scientists such as Carl Jung having had postulated the theories of Collective Consciousness and Synchronicity, then why should it be 'realistic' to suppose that we are isolated in our dreams. I myself have had Shared Dreams, so it would be silly of me to assume that my dreams are merely in my head. Why, just today somebody wrote in and described dreaming that he had been along with his mother as she walked the dog, and after awakening, compared notes and found a number of surprising and unexpected details to agree. Every verified Shared Dream or Out of Body Experience indicates that it is ridiculous to be materialistically 'realistic' about our dreams.

This materialistic Realism is exactly what Atheism has indoctrinated into society these last few hundred years. Religion and Morality are superstitions. Greed is the only realistic expectation. Embrace Capitalism!

So when a young man or woman has a Holy Vision of the God or the Blessed Goddess, they will already be conditioned to ignore it. To be realistic. To be an Atheist just like Big Brother.

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Originally posted by magicrules22311


I think of God the way the Bible describes him. As a man *:wink: *

I have never met him in any of my dreams, I guess I can try though...

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The Problem, though, with the Bibles depiction of God as a Man, is that it was how a Patriarchal Nomadic Tribe of bloodthirsty conquering Warriors (we would see them as bandits and thieves, but their own view of themselves is much more exalted) see God. They see God as a Warrior Brute just like themselves, only Bigger.

All of the Civilizations, though, have seen Divinity more in the form of Feminitity.

Particularly Western Civilization. Western Civilization grew organically out of Catholic Civilization and Catholic Civilization was to all historical accounts sponsored by Marianism. We only have to review the thousand Cathedrals built in France during the High Middle Ages and see that they were all called "Notre Dame" of one thing or another, meaning "Our Lady's" to know that the Catholicism that gave birth to our Civilization had a Female God, not a Man. The Man God was Her Son, shown in art as a mere Infant in Her Mother's Arms. Yes, Christ might be ultimately central, but it was the Regent Mother with all of the effective Power. We have only to catalogue the Visions of the Seers and Saints to find that almost all Apparitions were of the Female God. Not just in Our Civilization but in all Civilizations.

So, expecting to see a Man God might be something of a dead end. The Jews still believe in a Man God, and look where this has gotten them. They no longer have a Religion but Worship Real Estate and justify the worst brutality and expect the world to turn the other way while the consumate their century of thievery, invasion and usurpation. Yes, their God is a Male... he is the Devil.

All that means mush to me.


Oh well...

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Originally posted by magicrules22311
All that means mush to me.


Oh well...

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So why comment?

One can be humble about one's ignorance in silence, but to boast about being stupid is appalling.

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Originally posted by Leo Volont
All of the Civilizations, though, have seen Divinity more in the form of Feminitity.

Particularly Western Civilization. *Western Civilization grew organically out of Catholic Civilization and Catholic Civilization was to all historical accounts sponsored by Marianism. *We only have to review the thousand Cathedrals built in France during the High Middle Ages and see that they were all called "Notre Dame" of one thing or another, meaning "Our Lady's" to know that the Catholicism that gave birth to our Civilization had a Female God, not a Man. *The Man God was Her Son, shown in art as a mere Infant in Her Mother's Arms. *Yes, Christ might be ultimately central, but it was the Regent Mother with all of the effective Power. *We have only to catalogue the Visions of the Seers and Saints to find that almost all Apparitions were of the Female God. *Not just in Our Civilization but in all Civilizations.

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So when did the depiction of only a Man God start taking over - and why? It seems the men were trying to repress the women and try to control everything - including God.

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Originally posted by burns91


So when did the depiction of only a Man God start taking over - and why? It seems the men were trying to repress the women and try to control everything - including God.

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Well, what happened in the West was something of a Double Wammy. The Greek Barbarians were of Patriarchal Warrier Tribes and so they had Male Warrier Killer Gods. and the Hebrews were from Patriarchal Warrier Tribes who had a Male Warrier God. And then the Christianity of the Bishops and later of the Protestants were a merging of these two Male Killer God Religious Traditions. As I have said, our Civilization had been well on its way to being recognizably sponsored by Female Divinity in the name of the Blessed Virgin Mary, but this was cut short by the murderous Protestant Rebellion and its sibling Rebellion of brother Atheists who are a bit more direct in their amoralism and rejection of Civilized values.

In other Cultures it is by no means locked up that God is exclusively Male.

Metaphysically, those who conceptualize Divinity, see a bifurcation in Divinity between both Male and Female aspects, with the Male Aspect standing for the Absolute and Unchanging Qualities of Divinity, while the Feminine aspect of Divinity involves all of the Creative, Active and Dualistic dynamics in a moving Universe that sways between Light and Darkness, Life and Death.

But Mystically, where the Male Aspect of an Absolute and Unchanging God of Perfect Stillness and Oneness is essentially unknowable, the Female Aspect of Divinity is fit and suitable for Appearances in our World, both Subjective and Objective.

I dreamt that I was able to fly around, similar to superman. I flew around the city and buildings waving to people as I floated by. I then thought to myself I wanted to speak to GOD and ask him some questions. So I flew straight up to space out of earth’s atmosphere and didn’t see anything. Then as I looked at the moon his face appeared as a lion, a giant lion head; so I ask GOD, what is the meaning of life, what is the purpose of human beings. He laughed and said, “It is yet to be seen and I will soon find out.” His face then disappeared from the moon and I was left in the darkness of space. I then flew back into earth’s atmosphere as I was superman and that was when my dream ended.

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Originally posted by Beansphil
I dreamt that I was able to fly around, similar to superman. I flew around the city and buildings waving to people as I floated by. I then thought to myself I wanted to speak to GOD and ask him some questions. So I flew straight up to space out of earth’s atmosphere and didn’t see anything. Then as I looked at the moon his face appeared as a lion, a giant lion head; so I ask GOD, what is the meaning of life, what is the purpose of human beings. He laughed and said, “It is yet to be seen and I will soon find out.” His face then disappeared from the moon and I was left in the darkness of space. I then flew back into earth’s atmosphere as I was superman and that was when my dream ended.

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Lion Symbology does creep up again and again in Mystical Dreams and Visions. It represents Courage in the face of Persecution.

I myself am acquainted personally with the Symbology (after all, my name is "Leo"). years ago I had a dream in which my Kundalini Yoga Guru (who had given me all of the Initiations from top to bottom and back again) was out in a Field in front of an easel painting a painting. I walked up to see what he was painting and he pointed up into the sky and said, strangely enough, "Behold, a Flying Lion". And I look up and , sure enough, there was a flying lion.

But regarding your dream. Only Calvinist Protestants and Muslims believe that God has totally charted out the past, present and future. But if the Murder of the Messiah has shown us anything, it shows us that Human Beings are free to screw up horribly and even criminally. it is obvious that Humanity is still under development. Indeed, all of the Marian Apparitions in the last two hundred years have been begging Humanity to act with some sense of moral conscience. She has absolutely no sense of confidence that Humanity will certainly behave well in the End.

The Angel of God once told me in my most important Dream that "Christ is the Life in All Things". Life carries within it the Will to Organize and Collect -- from single Cell to multi-cell lifeforms, and then from single organisms to societies of Organisms. but together with this we have food-chains and predators. We have the Impulse to Civilization while still having the Predatory Impulse to Kill Civilization to feed upon the carcus -- to burn down Rome just to steal a few candlesticks. The Life Impulse to Organize and Collectize is the Cosmic Christ. The opposing impulse to destroy, setting the Individual against Society, is what Zoroastrianism calls the Satanic Impulse. We call it nowadays the Republican Religious Right.

God and this Great Cosmic Christ Life Force is indeed still in Process. it is still evolving. The Story is not over and nobody yet knows how it will end. (though I have had a prophetic dream or two...)

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Originally posted by Beansphil
Then as I looked at the moon his face appeared as a lion, a giant lion head; so I ask GOD, what is the meaning of life, what is the purpose of human beings.

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The God represented by a Lion that you mentioned in your dream reminds me of The Chronicles of Narnia where Aslan the Lion is depicted as God.

I dreamed I died once. I was walking across a big bridge. I had a bad feeling about it, but everyone told me I should go, so I did. Halfway across, the brige collapsed. I was crushed under tons of concrete and metal. I hit bottom and everything went black. The next thing I knew, I was looking down on smoke and debris. I was floating upward. I could see the people down below in shock and some crying. I realized, I'm dead! As I continued to float, I could hear singing. It felt like I was waking up. I looked behind me and there was a city. I approached, as I figured it must be heaven. An angel with 6 wings stopped me. He had a face, but it was featureless. He could talk, but his mouth (such as it was) didn't move. He told me I had to go back. I told him my body was crushed, so I had nothing to go back to. He didn't respond. He just insisted I turn around and go back. I was looking into the city. It was beautiful. I wanted to go there. I told the angel that Jesus was there and that's where I wanted to go. I was looking hard to try and find Him. I finally saw feet beneath a throne. They were golden. But I wanted to see His face. The angel made me turn around and face the Earth. It was a little ball in the distance. I said No! I wanted to stay. I gathered every ounce of strength I had to turn and face Heaven. I jerked as hard as I could, and when I opened my eyes, I was awake and sitting straight up in my bed.

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Originally posted by Leo Volont
Actually Janet's House is not unlike the World. *In certain metaphysical systems it is allowed that diversity and polarity even ascend up through some of the Spiritual Planes.

But God is Unitary. *Different Rooms are necessarily below God. *Different Rooms are still proving for individual souls. *But the Highest of Mystical Experiences are all about Oneness.

Yes, I know that Christ had said that in His Father's Heaven there are many mansions. *Also, I have heard Seers and Prophets talk in terms of a Central Heaven or a City of Heaven which is all One in the Light of God, but that outside of those Walls are those Souls that still can't totally surrender their charished individuality and who cling to the last vestiges of ego. *

Remember what Dante said about Hell -- "Abandon all hope you who enter here". *But the Highest Heaven of the Purest God must have a similar sign which says "Abandon your very self you who enter here". * You see, the Purest Heaven cannot be contaminated by anything that is other than God. *So, to be close enough to experience God, one must loosen one's sense of identity barriers and actually merge into God and forget all about ever having been a separate self. * This is the Mystical Experience to which Christ referred when He said that He and His Father are One. *Christ had gone through that Gate beyond the Self. *

Also in the Hindus Bhagavad Gita we have the same distinction. *We find that there is a Paradise of the Demigods *and astral planes of bliss and reward. *But these Astral Realms are transitory, and though quite rarified and ethereal, still in some sense 'material'. * Krishna Ram transcends that to that Pure State of Unitary Oneness I've been talking about.

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i must say, leo, that i don't frequently agree with you, although i am always interested in what you have to say. in this case, however, i am fascinated by your idea. i have always believed in some sort of Unity being the ultimate experience, transcendence, whatever, but i had not thought of applying that idea to this dream. on the other hand, i am an individual and i am rather attached to my individuality at the moment. i will have to do some thinking and see if i can't rationalize and harmonize individuality with unity. i am confident that it can be done, with much careful thought. it seems many things that, at first, appear to be polar opposites can be unified as part of a greater whole.

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Originally posted by leo
The Life Impulse to Organize and Collectize is the Cosmic Christ. The opposing impulse to destroy, setting the Individual against Society, is what Zoroastrianism calls the Satanic Impulse. We call it nowadays the Republican Religious Right.

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ha! AMEN.

This materialistic Realism is exactly what Atheism has indoctrinated into society these last few hundred years. Religion and Morality are superstitions. Greed is the only realistic expectation. Embrace Capitalism!


Well, I guess I would like to say that I am not going to EMBRACE CAPITALISM, nor would Buddhists, I believe. As they do not believe in god(s) either. So, I dont really understand your tirade nor its implications. OR what "good"it will do me to ponder your posits of it being the virgin mary.

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So, expecting to see a Man God might be something of a dead end. The Jews still believe in a Man God, and look where this has gotten them. They no longer have a Religion but Worship Real Estate and justify the worst brutality and expect the world to turn the other way while the consumate their century of thievery, invasion and usurpation. Yes, their God is a Male... he is the Devil. [/b]

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Wooooooo hold it up there Leo. Although I don't post too much here, I know something that shouldn't be posted when I see it. That last statement you made seems quite anti-semitic. "Yes, their God is a Male... he is the Devil", whos says that? I mean honestly, who actually says that on a public discussion board and doesn't see something wrong with it. That is a generalized statement and myself (not being a Jew I might add) hate those kind of statements, don't you? Please keep those kind of things to yourself or bring it to a hate board. But please, correct me if I am at all wrong in what I've said. I might have passed something over that had a relevance to the topic.

I agree with "The Gaurdians. If anything, the jews have gotten the short end of the stick throughout history and especially in this past century.

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Originally posted by WaaayOutThere
I dreamed I died once. I was walking across a big bridge. I had a bad feeling about it, but everyone told me I should go, so I did. Halfway across, the brige collapsed. I was crushed under tons of concrete and metal. I hit bottom and everything went black. The next thing I knew, I was looking down on smoke and debris. I was floating upward. I could see the people down below in shock and some crying. I realized, I'm dead! As I continued to float, I could hear singing. It felt like I was waking up. I looked behind me and there was a city. I approached, as I figured it must be heaven. An angel with 6 wings stopped me. He had a face, but it was featureless. He could talk, but his mouth (such as it was) didn't move. He told me I had to go back. I told him my body was crushed, so I had nothing to go back to. He didn't respond. He just insisted I turn around and go back. I was looking into the city. It was beautiful. I wanted to go there. I told the angel that Jesus was there and that's where I wanted to go. I was looking hard to try and find Him. I finally saw feet beneath a throne. They were golden. But I wanted to see His face. The angel made me turn around and face the Earth. It was a little ball in the distance. I said No! I wanted to stay. I gathered every ounce of strength I had to turn and face Heaven. I jerked as hard as I could, and when I opened my eyes, I was awake and sitting straight up in my bed.

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that is really cool! :D

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So, expecting to see a Man God might be something of a dead end. The Jews still believe in a Man God, and look where this has gotten them. They no longer have a Religion but Worship Real Estate and justify the worst brutality and expect the world to turn the other way while the consumate their century of thievery, invasion and usurpation. Yes, their God is a Male... he is the Devil.

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Wooooooo hold it up there Leo. Although I don't post too much here, I know something that shouldn't be posted when I see it. That last statement you made seems quite anti-semitic. "Yes, their God is a Male... he is the Devil", whos says that? I mean honestly, who actually says that on a public discussion board and doesn't see something wrong with it. That is a generalized statement and myself (not being a Jew I might add) hate those kind of statements, don't you? Please keep those kind of things to yourself or bring it to a hate board. But please, correct me if I am at all wrong in what I've said. I might have passed something over that had a relevance to the topic.[/b]

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I totally agree with "The guardians".
How can you sit there having a go at people about being atheist and preaching to people and then make such a nazi comment?

I didn't meet God, but I met his sons. When practicing Buddhism for about two months, I met with the Boddhiva several times. After coming back to Christianity, I met with Jesus several times (he wasn't that skinny early on and his hair was more curly). I have also met the antithesis of God as well, the Devil, although he wasn't all fire and brimstone. He treated me so respectably and kindly in the beginning, until I finally said no to his offers.