Thread: The Shaman's Dreamtime

juan, have you ever taken an ayahuasca brew (containing DMT?)

i wish i had your life.

goood read....
i never thought of the fact the plants have been here a long time before us.....

This thread has inspired me to become a shaman....
i plan to diet with plants at some point in my life....
As long as i wait, the opportunity wise arise when im ready.

Hi Shaft,

I have probably drank ayahuasca 70 times or so by now. I have been drinking ayahuasca about 3 times a month now since July of 2005.

In the diet process which I write about, it is normal to drink the tea of the plant that you are dieting with daily and then on the 1st, 3rd and 5th evenings to also drink ayahuasca in ceremony with the shaman.

Cheers,
Juan

Dreamherb,

I will be organizing a trip to Iquitos, Peru in January of 2008 to diet with the same Shaman who I did both my Chacruna and Ajo Sacha Diet with in 2006.

We will be dieting with a plant named Camalonga which is known for producing very lucid dreams.

I will post the details here as they become available if you may be interested in joining us.

Cheers,
Juan

Hi Juan,
Camalonga, is that the plant also known as - Lucky Nut, Yellow Oleander (Thevetia peruviana) ? There is no mention of any affect on dreams in what I've read, only that it's toxic.

Hi Vortex!

Camalonga is a master Doctor/Teacher plant that visits you in your dream space bringing lucidity and journey. It is Thevetia peruviana, but it is not toxic if prepared properly.

The shamans are called camalongueros. They use camalonga seeds , one male (bigger) and one female (smaller), and they mix it with cane (alcohol) to macerate it , this helps to extract the seed components, they do not eat the seeds.

Almost everything can be toxic if it is used in the wrong way. Traditionally, the difference between a cure or a poison whether it be with plants or pharmaceuticals is a matter of the correct dosage.

Interesting. I look forward to hearing about how it goes.
Please make a note of the exact process of extraction with the cane alcohol and post it with your experiences.

Last night I took a look at the forum (first time in about a month) and found this thread. After reading through your ajo sacha experience, i felt the urge to stop and go to sleep. It was like something which i could not sense fully was telling me to dream. So I went to sleep.
Even though I didn't gain lucidity, which I had had on 2 of the 3 previous nights, the dreams conjured up were much more interesting than before and my dream recall was better than usual (I've let it slip a bit).
One of the dreams I had was of eating some kind of psychedelic plant/mushroom with other food that was supposed to first make my body feel like it was shrinking, but then feel like my body was getting bigger and bigger.
Although I didn't have the experience itself in the dream, I remember what it was supposed to be like (and in a dream, remembering what it was supposed to be like is almost as good as experiencing it).
I'll be experiencing ayahuasca soon for the first time. I hope it will be an experience I will never forget.

Thanks for the cool night
and thanks for sharing this knowledge. thanks to you i think i'll go to latin-america before Japan when school is finally over in summer.

Originally Posted by dreammagick

Dreamherb,

I will be organizing a trip to Iquitos, Peru in January of 2008 to diet with the same Shaman who I did both my Chacruna and Ajo Sacha Diet with in 2006.

damn i wish i could, too bad i live in canada. And got no money ATM.
Im sure the shamans will give me my chance.

Originally Posted by dreammagick

Dreamherb,

I will be organizing a trip to Iquitos, Peru in January of 2008 to diet with the same Shaman who I did both my Chacruna and Ajo Sacha Diet with in 2006.

We will be dieting with a plant named Camalonga which is known for producing very lucid dreams.

I will post the details here as they become available if you may be interested in joining us.

Cheers,
Juan

Wow man... I am honored even to speak with you. What you have experienced would be the best experience of my life. I would very much like to go on that trip but January 2008 is so soon and I am still in grade 12... I will postponed university just to go on such a trip. I live in Canada and I would save up for as long as it took to come. I'm assuming my main cost would be flight, correct?

man id love to do somthing like this , just need to know where to look , the thing is taking the different types of plants might give long term side effects or somthing im sure some of them contain some type of drug.

these type of ld obe requires some type of drug plants which i disagree to use it will harm the body

Originally Posted by tekkendreams

these type of ld obe requires some type of drug plants which i disagree to use it will harm the body

Drug plants? thats kind of an oxymoron.... plants are naturally found on this earth, drugs are synthesized in a lab.
Anyways, the whole point of these diets is for SPIRITUAL HEALING.

Originally Posted by DreamHerb

Drug plants? thats kind of an oxymoron.... plants are naturally found on this earth, drugs are synthesized in a lab.
Anyways, the whole point of these diets is for SPIRITUAL HEALING.

so your saying marijuana is not a drug? it doesnt harm u at all its totally fine because its a plant?

Don't foget about us JUan..... i love hearing about your teachings..... I have also experienced similar teaching mostly from mushrooms.....Once i could have sworn i sensed the peyote spirit on mushrooms... it was very masculine, and guiding as you described.
Visually i saw it as a one-eyed cactus, with a flower crown.... It telepathically winked at me sort of, as if to tell me id meet him one day.

I disagree with those who those who think these are hallucinations, and delusions... because i have seen psychedelics change so many people life for the better, as well as my own.

And it seems those who have taken psychedelics are the most laid back, and have the most wisdom....which those who haven't experienced them cannot understand.

I have also experienced the "part of nature" revelation... sometimes while on psychedelics it seemed my thoughts were fuel for plants and animals growth.
That our imagination formed reality. Everything we think of, can be possible.

Originally Posted by DreamHerb

because i have seen psychedelics change so many people life for the better, as well as my own.

And it seems those who have taken psychedelics are the most laid back, and have the most wisdom....which those who haven't experienced them cannot understand.

Psychedelics have also changed my life. I haven't been the same since my first mushroom trip 6 years ago. I still trip but not as much as before. Its always taken with respect. Its a teacher plant (fungi) as long as you are open to the signs and experiences. Its also possible to take it and not learn a damn thing from them also if your intention was to "party" on it. Same as LSD.

Does one have to take these "Hallucinagens" or Spirit Guides in order to realize the world around them is not as it claims to be?

Not everyone can take these medicines for health reasons, but you know, if one is able to "take one for the team" so to speak...

The whole trip definitely sounds great and I thank dreammagick for sharing them with us. I ,for one, just does not drink "herbal teas" for enlightenment. It's just not me.

Say what you will, however, as I am a human being looking for what can enlighten me, I think it'd be best for an "alternative" way.

So start teaching classes on how one can fly in this waking dream!

This is the most interesting, amazing thread. I am feeling vibrations just reading it...amazing. I haven't done any Psychedelics (LSD & Mushrooms) since I found out I was pregnant almost 5 years ago...and I really felt the Lord put it on my heart not to. There were a lot of reasons not to, but I think it mostly had to do with my focus at the time, and the legality of it.

I decided I would try LSD and the like when I was 5 years old watching a movie with my dad...but never did I realize the potential for such a journey. I am in awe reading this. I really can't wait to read more of your experiences...they are some of the most interesting reading I've ever read...

Hey Dreamherb!

I am in Oaxaca, Mexico right now preparing for a few mushroom ceremonies in late March and April.

Speaking of Dreamherb....I just tried Calea Zacatechichi for the first time as well.

http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...063#post725063

Peace,
Juan

I've done an ayahuasca analogue twice now (first: mimosa hostilis+ syrian rue; second: mimosa hostilis+chaliponga+syrian rue), but sadly had no real effect. There were vibrations and a deep sense of...dreamness, that reality is all a beautiful dream, but nothing else.
So i decided to quit making my own ayahuasca until i can go to South- or Central-America and experience a broth made by experienced users.
Dreammagick.com was down for a while and now there's only a picture
Do you know when you are next going to do ayahuasca ceremonies?

Mimosa is actually another plant that grows here in Mexico. However, there are many different kinds of mimosa, not all of which are active as an ayahuasca analog. Likewise, making the medicine even with the proper ingredients is truly an art.

Sounds like from your description the syrian rue was active. Most of the maoi´s alone give you a dreamy and euphoric feel. They can be mildly to highly visual and psychedelic alone depending on your sensitivity and the dose you take.

I am planning to make another tour to Iquitos to work with several shamans in the fall of 2008. The site will be updated in the near future.

Hi Juan,
How do it go with the Camalonga diet? I've been wondering about it recently.

Vortex.

Originally Posted by Vortex

Hi Juan,
How do it go with the Camalonga diet? I've been wondering about it recently.

Vortex.

As have I juan..... I imagine he;s doing some more inner journeys right about now...

Love the avatar vortex...