To the guy who started this whole topic
Actually I really was talking of two experiences... One through a closed mirror where I arrived at a light road which was a new place of construct. I moved through a mirror by shear will, digging a way to my own new construct realm. This was a dream.
>> What do you mean that you achieved this not in a dream? How did you get there, through some sort of meditation or astral proyection?
I read the book "The Never Ending Story", I think around the age of 15. This book introduces the notion of paradox when the main character climbs a ladder (that warns him not to continue) and meets the entity that is writing the story. IE. The main character watches as the his story is written. This can actually be understood as a paradox related to a positive-feedback loop.
This was the first time that I ever remember being introduced to these concepts. Now, with positive-feedback, a build-up is involved then something happens, like wrapping a powered wire. With true Paradox a 'stable' universe will collapse until the contradiction is resolve. The conception of such an idea pulled me from my waking reality and brought me to the place of white light, that you have coined the construct realm. I'm not quite prepared to go much further at this time. This stuff is highly involved in my work (and webpage) and the timing is not quite right. I will say though, that I was not fully comfortable with this place, all though it is a composite of pure Love Light. In this place I set up something and decided that I would not remember until it was set in motion. One thing was that I would vow to never read "The Never Ending Story" again (that seems odd... LOL). However, I would eventually chose to read it once more, and I would buy a Hard Back copy. This occured about 8 years later, and my memory of this place came back. I did set something else in motion - being very clever, I wanted something undeniable - and I got overlapping the time of buying the hard back copy.
- I guess I would categorize it as a meditation. Temporary Disbelief or something... but naming things never covers that whole and is a bit futile.
>> You also said that your friends were there with you, which I thought was pretty interesting too, as I wonder how all this was possbile.
This goes back to the dream. When I pushed my way through the closed mirror and this road came into form, my friends came through the mirror I had opened and guided me back to the gothic night club in the dream where the entrance mirror was located. I was very weak from the intense will needed to get through the mirror. I would not consider these two places as the same, the place in the dream was more a personal construct, while the place of pure light from the book would be the universal.
>> You present some very interesting topics and talk about elevated states that I hope that one day I could learn to achieve. Can you elaborate a bit more about the whole concept?[/quote]
Walk slow, flow. Check out my webpage once it's up. I have been doing alot of writing for it. I have written about 30 pages so far, this is a good start.
I am leaving on a road trip tomorrow (Wed) at 6:00pm.
If you send an email with your phone number or AIM me before then I'd be more than happy to give you a call.
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native american mirror technique
Hi all,
Finally decided to post (and may confuse some of you as my partner has generously let me use his old avatar, having moved on to a new one!!).
I've found some references to mirrors but haven't yet found any about a native american technique I learned years ago whereby you find a reflective surface, see your reflection in it then your reflection goes off into the 5th dimension (ie through the mirror) where your dream body can find dream teachers.
I use this pretty much everytime I get lucid, though tend to fly or throw myself through the mirror to get the effect. It always causes a change of scene and I often get a strong physical sensation of the glass deforming about my face (sometimes seeing the atoms as dots of swirling, dancing light...blame my physics background...) and momentary fear that I can't breathe. Then there is a moment of dark grey or brown darkness, then I appear in a different place. Sometimes I choose the destination, sometimes I go with the flow. Once in a moment of rashness I asked to be taken to my worst fear. Think my subconscious decided I wasn't quite ready for that one as I emerged in a smokey 'hells angels' canteen!!
I have had long conversations with animals and humans the other side of the mirror. Sometimes getting sound and profound advice, sometimes gobbledygook (was once told by a serious looking cat to act 'like the dog in the heineken ad'). The feel and intensity of the dream ALWAYS changes for me on going through and seems to produce higher level awareness? Also in these dreams colours are brighter/more intense and I have strong physical awareness...tasting salt water, feeling the sharpness of rocks. Also often have false awakenings with these.
Sometimes I see my eyes change colour or my aura before going through and I find the same happens going through windows, car wing mirrors and once tried a lake (to end up dripping wet in shallow muddy water the 1st time :? ).
Sometimes I bounce back off the mirror but usually get through easily.
If anyone else uses this method please let me know. I'm trying to track down the original reference (which included a protection prayer, charging water with 3 rose quartz pebbles and making a dream antenna).
Happy dreaming!
Zhine
