Issues With Fa

i been getting FA a lot and it seems to be my main way to lucidity, but i have some issues here:


last night, and early in the night, i literally FA'd 10 times in a row. a few dreams were longer and i had more control (broke a mirror with my face, walked into a boxing arena in tighty whities, fingered a girl on a public park bench, ate junk food) but most of them were really short/weird/chaotic and would abruptly end with me in bed again, still dreaming, examples:

first, upon doing nosepinch and finding out i'm in a dream, i find it EXTREMELY hard (physically) to get out of bed. it's like my body is extremely tired and doesn't want to move.

second, when i get out it's dark; and as we know light switches don't work. when it does light up it seems to happen all of a sudden out of nowhere.

third, the weird "retina burn" - my bedsheets are in vision of one of my eyes when i "wake up" and it STAYS THERE as i move around, effectively reducing my field of vision by a lot.

fourth, and this was really weird, was the world (or was it my dream body?) was CONTINUOUSLY spinning counterclockwise, so I couldn't go anywhere or anything. It took tremendous effort to try to slow down this process.

i have been having prob's with false awakenings to

well i bang my head on the wall and knock myself out and wake up and they is this girl on top off me (naked) werid i know

I'm trying to cause FA's. Ah sweet irony.

I love FAs, they always lead to an LD for me. I had a similar vision thing though. My eye was blurry, like I had been pressing on it, and I was thinking, "This is the crappiest LD ever! I can't even see!"

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Originally Posted by Adanac

I'm trying to cause FA's. Ah sweet irony.[/b]

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i get SO many of these it's not even funny. i have had some of my best lucids from FAs though... usually in the morning though, when i "wake up" it's already light out anyway.
just nose pinch anytime you become aware that youre in bed, even when youre 110% sure you're awake (i always was... and then whoa i'm dreaming)

I wish I got FAs as I imagine it would be so easy to get used to doing RCs when getting out of bed, but I haven't had one for more than 10 years when my mom used to wake me up for school. Back then I would often fall asleep after she called for me, then dream I'd wake up, go brush my teeth, etc., then heard her call again and wake up and go: "Goddamnit, now I have to get out of bed all over again, it was hard enough the first time. :("

I obviously had them, because I was too tired to get out of bed, yet I knew I really should be getting out of bed, so I dreamt about it.

I haven't had a single FA since, but perhaps instead of imaging something random when I decide to sleep a bit longer, I should imagine I get out of bed and I could do it again? As in: "Wake up from alarm, hit Snooze, imagine myself getting out of bed as I fall back asleep and do a reality check when I start brushing my teeth?"? It's worth a shot. :)

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Originally Posted by Nutzilla

I wish I got FAs as I imagine it would be so easy to get used to doing RCs when getting out of bed, but I haven't had one for more than 10 years when my mom used to wake me up for school. Back then I would often fall asleep after she called for me, then dream I'd wake up, go brush my teeth, etc., then heard her call again and wake up and go: "Goddamnit, now I have to get out of bed all over again, it was hard enough the first time. :("

I obviously had them, because I was too tired to get out of bed, yet I knew I really should be getting out of bed, so I dreamt about it.

I haven't had a single FA since, but perhaps instead of imaging something random when I decide to sleep a bit longer, I should imagine I get out of bed and I could do it again? As in: "Wake up from alarm, hit Snooze, imagine myself getting out of bed as I fall back asleep and do a reality check when I start brushing my teeth?"? It's worth a shot. :)[/b]

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do RCs EVERY time you become aware that you're in bed. like if you doze off and then suddenly are aware that you're sleepy and in bed, do an RC. I must nosepinch like... 10 times a night? and maybe 2 or 3 will be dreams, but the thing is at the time I do the RC i don't expect it to work. Just goes to show you how real FAs are and how many you probably DO have but just aren't cashing in on :content:

No, I don't think so, sorry, I'm one of those people who remember all my dreams; if I dreamed I woke up and then woke up for real, I would definitely remember it, just like I still remember it happening so many years ago. :)

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Originally Posted by Nutzilla

No, I don't think so, sorry, I'm one of those people who remember all my dreams; if I dreamed I woke up and then woke up for real, I would definitely remember it, just like I still remember it happening so many years ago. :)[/b]

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trust me on this man, if you dream a lot and do lucids, try nosepinching a lot

i don't necesarrily dream that i wake up and get out of bed, you know. it's those groggy periods when you're really tired and "almost asleep" but you suddenly become aware that you're in bed. it feels real and if i don't RC and find out it's a dream i would just "drift off" and keep dreaming that i'm in bed until i fall asleep again, you get what i'm saying? :P
point im trying to make is, a FA can be so real that it feels like you're awake and in bed trying to fall asleep and you'd have no idea.

Now that I remember I had a FA today.

I've had a dream built around a false awakening once... it consisted of a completely normal day at school. I had conversations with friends, got set homework by teachers, there's almost nothing out of place in the dream. The only thing I noticed that wasn't quite right in the reality was a couple of people talking about bus tickets... and I only noticed that when I thought back about the dream. Hell, the first half an hour of that day was spent in belief that it was a Thursday, when in fact it was still a Wednesday. The only thing that managed to convince me otherwise was when I looked into my homework diary and saw that nothing had been set for work on Wednesday, despite me in the dreaming writing into the book. Was kinda of awkward for the rest of the day, since I kept mentioning the conversations I had in my dream to my mates, despite them saying they never had the conversations.

Wow, so many FAs, I always find having just one a pain, because they tend to happen ten minutes or so before my alarm goes off. Having that many FAs in one night must suck for you.

But I can agree, dreams and lucid dreams from FAs are very odd... usually, in my case, I end up cursing at coffee makers in my dream because since I just went through the whole process of making coffee in my dream, that makes it twice I'd have to make it for that day. I'm extremely lazy at those kind of things and though it caused me to be lucid, I found it worse than being awake *laughs*

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Originally Posted by Lucidbulbs

Wow, so many FAs, I always find having just one a pain, because they tend to happen ten minutes or so before my alarm goes off. Having that many FAs in one night must suck for you.[/b]

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They're really cool when I can actually get of bed and start doing stuff in the dream, some of my most vivid controlled awesome LDs come from FAs. But yeah... i'ts really really lame when i FA and can't move or my i have "retina burn" (my vision is locked onto the first thing i see when i wake up; ceiling or bedsheets, no matter what i do or what my other senses input, which result in FA'ing again shortly after)

Hm... try reality testing every time you wake up! that way you dont miss out on potential lucids from FAs. just dont try sticking your hand into hot coffee or anything liek that

lol today I had my first lucid

I think I know why it happened

today i had to wake up by myself, 'cause my father was travelling, and the dull one here forgot t oput the alarm on... so whe nI woke up, i was desperate and stressed (still not the dream)... then ok i was still in time, I went to school and alls... the nI got home, almost not managing to stay awake, and I did eventually surrender to a nap...

then i wake up.. i try to get up and... I wake up.. shit, I try to get up and.. I wake up again (lol) "Something is wrong, shit man i gotta wake up!" and i wake up again... then I think "False awakeing!!" and i wake up again.. then I give up moving, and just focus on what I see.. my hand on the bed.. I know I am deaming by now.. then I focus on my hand so that the dream estabilizes.. then I try to get up, but I'm paralized.. I try again and nothing.. I take another look at my hand and then I think "man, this is a lucid dream, fuck, what is stopping me?" and then I simply fly away outta my bed

the dream didn't last long, and some RC told me i was awake, so I wasn't that lucid you know

anyways, I've always heard of FAs, but I didn't think someone could have 5 of them in a row.. is this how it happens for you guys?

hehe cya around