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      Yeah, I'd have to say, I think you're making it up as well. Of course there is no way to prove or disprove what you've said but if I lived a month in a dream world I would see it as a life changing experience (especially if I lived in worked in existing places that I had no knowledge of previously) and would sit down and chronologize the entire experience in minute detail and then perhaps try to find some of the people I had met at these places and find out if they are real. I certainly wouldn't be asking strangers on the internet if they'd had similar experiences since I've only ever heard of this sort of thing in science fiction books/movies.

      Also, if I knew I was dreaming and it still persisted for any length of time, it would definitely be a ground hog day type of situation where I'd go hog wild and screw the consequences. I definitely wouldn't be getting a job and an apartment and living a normal life.

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      Shit, dude, what a great story! Seriously, go to Hollywood and try to pitch your story, you might make some money off it. This coming from an experienced scriptwriter whose sold two stories, so far. You can make some good money.

      And, if you're not making it up, well, I'm not sure what to say. Can I just agree with what everyone else has said?

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      Xagaria, there is no point in lying in here, unless you want to be 'cool'. Also, this topic has been up for almost a month. I don't see why Namcosis should lie for so long. I've talked to him on MSN messenger, and he's a nice person.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Bad Wolf View Post
      For everyone who doesn't believe Namcosis' story, that's up to you. It's like he said, he has no way of proving it to you unless you initiate a shared dream with him and he uses it to instantly transmit all his memories of the even to you (I'm sure a shared dream would enable advanced forms of telepathy like that). But I'd just like to remind all of you not to flat out disbelieve the story, but just to remain skeptical until you can logically decide whether or not he's telling the truth. And by skeptical I don't mean think he must be lying, but rather to think that he might be telling the truth, and at the same time think he might be lying. After all, if people thought that the explorers who said the world was round were lying, then the world wouldn't be the way it is right now, would it? But they didn't call them liers, they sent out more explorers to confirm it and find out more about the far away lands, and eventually even began colonizing them. Now we are the explorers, and we therefore have to remain open to what we and others find out and experience. Namcosis is saying he stumbled upon something that possibly no one else has ever experience before, so now we have to just have trust that it's there try to reach that place ourselves. Who knows, some day people may be learning about us, and how we learned so many things about dreams and what they are capable of.

      Well, I guess I'll leave it at that for now. I'd appreciate any comments on it.


      Edit: Just out of curiosity, if you could create one of those distortions at will and control where it would send you and the length of time you'd be stuck there once and only once, where would you go? Would you go to a fantasy world created by your mind (I have at least one tucked away in there), or would you go to one created by someone else, such as one in a book or something? Or would travel back in time to witness some great historical event, or even a week forward in time to see next weeks lottery numbers? That last idea seems like a waste to me, but it'd definitely be accurate. I personally would either pick Middle Earth from The Lord of the Rings or one of my fantasy worlds, but that's just me.
      Shared dreaming? I'll believe it when it's proven in a scientifically controlled environment. Of course, that's never going to happen, so I'll never believe it. You can tell all the anecdotes you want, but it doesn't mean anything until it's been tested within the bounds of the scientific method.

      Additionally, the Greek mathematician Eratosthenes measured the circumference of the earth prior to 200 BC. It was a well known fact that the earth was round 1700 years before Columbus made his voyage. The knowledge was probably lost during the dark ages along with the rest of science, replaced magic and superstition (hmmm... dream sharing?), but by 1492 it was common knowledge that the earth was round. Columbus sailed intending to land on the east coast of Asia, not to drop off the edge of the earth or to prove a point.
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      Quote Originally Posted by $MASTA C$ View Post
      you seem fake. Your attitude while typing just seems like you are trying to put on a show. Don't get me wrong, it is definitely a good story, but the way you post just doesn't sit right w/ me.

      I believe that we can have really long dreams, but definitely not a continuous 30 days. If this story is true then I definitely think it was a insanely vivid lucid. I definitely do not believe the alternate reality stuff.

      How old are you?
      I'm currently 20 years old soon to be 21, well as of the part about my attitude that is really all up to you I am just here to find answers without looking for trouble.

      In the end it is you're choice to believe if i am lying or not . I myself find it would be a waste of time to lie for this long however what I say here is up to you .

      Anyway I just gathered the theories so far doesn't mean i believe in the alternate reality thing I actually am with marvo on those 2 theories being the closest.

      Anyway I will leave it up to you to believe or not what you want.

      Thank you for you're time in posting hope you will come again .

      Quote Originally Posted by Xaqaria View Post
      Yeah, I'd have to say, I think you're making it up as well. Of course there is no way to prove or disprove what you've said but if I lived a month in a dream world I would see it as a life changing experience (especially if I lived in worked in existing places that I had no knowledge of previously) and would sit down and chronologize the entire experience in minute detail and then perhaps try to find some of the people I had met at these places and find out if they are real. I certainly wouldn't be asking strangers on the internet if they'd had similar experiences since I've only ever heard of this sort of thing in science fiction books/movies.

      Also, if I knew I was dreaming and it still persisted for any length of time, it would definitely be a ground hog day type of situation where I'd go hog wild and screw the consequences. I definitely wouldn't be getting a job and an apartment and living a normal life.
      Well you believing me or not is you're choice .

      However you can't expect everyone to be the same as you if that is what you're implying .

      I myself was more concerned about my present situation then going wild and doing everything my heart desired.

      Also I remember the experience pretty well however I took the option of asking others if they had the same experience to establish what the experience was in the first place .

      Again I am not you everyone ends up taking the action they end up thinking is best I did what i though was best.

      Anyway thank you for taking the time to post here hope to see more replies from you soon.
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      Well, lot's of disbeleif here. I beleive you, though I can't comment on what it could have been... I beleive you because I myself had a dream that lasted around a month (dream time) earlier this year. In it my world was destryed and things went horribly wrong... It took me a good part of a day to get orientated back into 'reality'. I didn't know where I was when I woke up it felt so real!

      I'm not gonna argue or offer suggestions as to what it could be, just to let you know I can relate

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      i think this is a lie. it has that ring to it, along with the overly apologetic and thankful attitude since he got called out. could be wrong, but seems like crap to me. somebody who easily summons their dream guide should ask it about this kind of thing.

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      Eh, Highflyerz? How should the dream-guide help? For all we know, we can't trust our dream-guides at all.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Sanzora View Post
      Well, lot's of disbeleif here. I beleive you, though I can't comment on what it could have been... I beleive you because I myself had a dream that lasted around a month (dream time) earlier this year. In it my world was destryed and things went horribly wrong... It took me a good part of a day to get orientated back into 'reality'. I didn't know where I was when I woke up it felt so real!

      I'm not gonna argue or offer suggestions as to what it could be, just to let you know I can relate
      That's sounds pretty scary damn the last thing i would want to imagine would be to wake up to a devastated planet 0_o.

      Quote Originally Posted by Highflyerz View Post
      i think this is a lie. it has that ring to it, along with the overly apologetic and thankful attitude since he got called out. could be wrong, but seems like crap to me. somebody who easily summons their dream guide should ask it about this kind of thing.
      Well again as i have said to so many people believe what you want to believe that's you're choice . See my text however you wish to see it as my intention are still my own anyway i know what i am doing so until i reach a satisfactory point i will continue.

      Thanks anyway for you're take in all this .

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      Sounds like one hell of an experience! Well you proved all those people who say:'You can't live in your dreams.' Wrong, XD

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      Wow! That sounds really amazing! I wonder how you managed to get trapped in your dream? Maybe you became so good at lucid dreaming that it became an alternate reality? Honestly, I'd be really scared if that happened to me.

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      For a thread in which more than half of the replies were about disbelief, it sure has gained a lot of attention, which is exactly what someone who is lying would like isn't it? I think that's rather funny.

      Benefit of the doubt? You FELT like it. It wasn't another "reality".
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      very true, but i've had twenty minute dreams in like ten seconds real time!

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      Quote Originally Posted by Suby View Post
      For a thread in which more than half of the replies were about disbelief, it sure has gained a lot of attention, which is exactly what someone who is lying would like isn't it? I think that's rather funny.

      Benefit of the doubt? You FELT like it. It wasn't another "reality".

      Or I could not be lying and it is gaining attention, ever took time to think about it ?

      The way you say it is as if it's only gaining attention because you think it's a lie, a topic can gain popularity because of what the topic consists.

      Anyway I didn't say it was an alternate reality I am actually opened to the more scientific theories.

      Please read the posts more clearly, because you would have known that i don't support these theories much except for the two marvo and I agreed on.

      Also if you don't believe me that is you're choice just don't pay attention to this topic and ignore it all together it's that simple.

      Thank you for you're take on all this .
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      Quote Originally Posted by weelilhazel View Post
      Wow! That sounds really amazing! I wonder how you managed to get trapped in your dream? Maybe you became so good at lucid dreaming that it became an alternate reality? Honestly, I'd be really scared if that happened to me.
      Sorry there didn't see that post of yours anyway now that i see it i will reply XD.

      I no matter how real it was do not believe it was an alternate reality . I actually do believe the brain is powerful enough to have done all this it's scary yes but i believe that is the most probable situation . And as for being good well i was always able to lucid dream i just however found out the name of it not all that long ago and came here looking for the limitless possibilities XD .All because of Jeff lol .

      Anyway yes in the end I'm more open to the scientific theories anyway thanks for posting .

      I appreciate it .

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      I have just come on to this forum after a friend of mine told me to take a look. I am only 16 now but i have been lucid dreaming for almost 10 years (started when i was 7 lol) now what i have just said not many people would believe that i started when i was 7 but its like what has happend here i have had experiences were i cant determain if the dream is a dream or if it is reality but i havn't had anything like you namcosis. I have had dreams which have had that distortion thing from what you were saying but i have had the dreams were i think its reality seperate.
      From what you were saying i think you have final found this thing what i found a long time time ago were if am in a dream and i dont like it then al go put my hand out and i will make a glitch in the dream were i go though this glitch and i end up in a different place. But from what i have red that really is a unique dream my friend

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      Quote Originally Posted by jankai View Post
      I have just come on to this forum after a friend of mine told me to take a look. I am only 16 now but i have been lucid dreaming for almost 10 years (started when i was 7 lol) now what i have just said not many people would believe that i started when i was 7 but its like what has happend here i have had experiences were i cant determain if the dream is a dream or if it is reality but i havn't had anything like you namcosis. I have had dreams which have had that distortion thing from what you were saying but i have had the dreams were i think its reality seperate.
      From what you were saying i think you have final found this thing what i found a long time time ago were if am in a dream and i dont like it then al go put my hand out and i will make a glitch in the dream were i go though this glitch and i end up in a different place. But from what i have red that really is a unique dream my friend
      Yo sorry if this response took so long XD.

      I had been very busy on hiddenRo lately so i haven't had much chance to come here.

      Well as for lucid dreaming till you where 7 i don't find that hard to believe some people are indeed naturals .

      I myself am a natural lucid dreamer not that i want to brag about it or anything .

      Well as for my experience i am doing research every now and then on it, if i ever do find it and can't seem to control it like the previous time i intend on doing a psychological evaluation of myself for example what have i done or though of that could have triggered it desires and etc .

      But for now i am just sticking with a storyline i had been working on for a while in my dreams XD.

      Thanks for you're reply and you're take on all this , I appreciate it

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      that's an amazing dream you had there... most of my dreams don't last more then a couple of minutes, so you're really lucky

      sometimes in my dreams i have had very very short times where i can feel things that normally wouldnt happen in dreams, like the weather for example. i have felt heat, cold and the wind. nothing like your experience though. i envy you for that.

      i sure hope you can have a dream like that again, so that you can study it more, ask dream characters about it, have fun, ya know? there would be so much i would do, after the initial shock of it feeling like reality, of course.

      i still beleive that dreams are another dimension altogether... and if somehow we could control this dimension to the point of knowing exactly how to dream about certian things... who knows what else we could do?

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      Quote Originally Posted by jankai View Post
      I have just come on to this forum after a friend of mine told me to take a look. I am only 16 now but i have been lucid dreaming for almost 10 years (started when i was 7 lol) now what i have just said not many people would believe that i started when i was 7 but its like what has happend here i have had experiences were i cant determine if the dream is a dream or if it is reality but i havn't had anything like you namcosis. I have had dreams which have had that distortion thing from what you were saying but i have had the dreams were i think its reality seperate.
      From what you were saying i think you have final found this thing what i found a long time time ago were if am in a dream and i dont like it then al go put my hand out and i will make a glitch in the dream were i go though this glitch and i end up in a different place. But from what i have red that really is a unique dream my friend
      I'm new also, and I find this somewhat hard to believe; I've seen some pretty strange dreams on this forum. I'm a sceptic, sort of, and this whole thing is completely mind-boggling. Dude, I seriously think you should submit this dream and various theories to the newspaper and see what reactions you get. If you're not lying, then this dream is pretty cool, and you should try to enter it again and try different stuff, see what happens. I think that it's absolutely creepily wonderful that ths mega-dream of yours has attracted so many posts and makes some people question where people could go with their dreaming. Interesting, no?
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      Quote Originally Posted by lindsey609 View Post
      I'm new also, and I find this somewhat hard to believe; I've seen some pretty strange dreams on this forum. I'm a sceptic, sort of, and this whole thing is completely mind-boggling. Dude, I seriously think you should submit this dream and various theories to the newspaper and see what reactions you get. If you're not lying, then this dream is pretty cool, and you should try to enter it again and try different stuff, see what happens. I'll continue this post later.
      Well you see i do not know how the distortion appears and i for one am a bit scared of the risks of being stuck there to long but however i am in he middle of finding out what is causing this . As it goes every time i see this distortion as i said before a psychological evaluation of myself for example what have i done or though of that could have triggered it desires and etc .


      Anyway if i ever do find more i will post it on the forum after all i am sure a lot of other people would want to have long dreams like that or maybe less longer.

      But anyway thanks for the post i appreciate it a lot.

      Quote Originally Posted by jh477 View Post
      that's an amazing dream you had there... most of my dreams don't last more then a couple of minutes, so you're really lucky

      sometimes in my dreams i have had very very short times where i can feel things that normally wouldn't happen in dreams, like the weather for example. i have felt heat, cold and the wind. nothing like your experience though. i envy you for that.

      i sure hope you can have a dream like that again, so that you can study it more, ask dream characters about it, have fun, ya know? there would be so much i would do, after the initial shock of it feeling like reality, of course.

      i still believe that dreams are another dimension altogether... and if somehow we could control this dimension to the point of knowing exactly how to dream about certain things... who knows what else we could do?
      Well thanks for the vote of confidence i for one however believe that dreams are dreams . The brain is very much a powerful thing . However i do believe that the world of lucid dreaming has infinite possibilities to be explored . I think of lucid dreaming as a gift and i love to explore the possibilities and also living out storylines XD .

      Anyway thanks also for the post i appreciate it , also keep on practicing with enough practice you can extend you're lucid dreaming time. Well the time in which you can control it.

      Good luck XD

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      You sure you didn't take any Salvia Divinorium? Or you were just tripping like a mad man? If you were to ask for my most honest opinion on this matter I find this to be quite unbelievable while I myself have experienced head, cold, wind, hunger, thirst, and bathroom. It was because in Real Life I was hungry, thirsty, or I had to go to the bathroom. Although being in a dream for an entire month? Also for 30 days of doing everything you would in reality I just find that to be to far fetched and unfathomable. So I would say that you are not telling the truth.

      Or you are, but you exaggerated so much of what you said to make it look good on paper that it's not even believable anymore. I'll let God decide.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Brandon Heat View Post
      You sure you didn't take any Salvia Divinorium? Or you were just tripping like a mad man? If you were to ask for my most honest opinion on this matter I find this to be quite unbelievable while I myself have experienced head, cold, wind, hunger, thirst, and bathroom. It was because in Real Life I was hungry, thirsty, or I had to go to the bathroom. Although being in a dream for an entire month? Also for 30 days of doing everything you would in reality I just find that to be to far fetched and unfathomable. So I would say that you are not telling the truth.

      Or you are, but you exaggerated so much of what you said to make it look good on paper that it's not even believable anymore. I'll let God decide.
      In the end it's up to you, like i said so many times before there is no way of proving what i am saying is true or false .

      None the less i still find that lying for so long would be sort of stupid .

      Well if i ever find a way to make the distortion appear and post techniques for it then people try them and comment on it working for them it would pretty much kill the whole i am lying thing . But only time will tell i guess.

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      I don't judge what others say to be true or false I simply listen and keep a neutral stance I accept that what you say is a possibility but not a probable one.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Brandon Heat View Post
      I don't judge what others say to be true or false I simply listen and keep a neutral stance I accept that what you say is a possibility but not a probable one.
      well i never said you where judging i simply said it was up to you .

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      "i still beleive that dreams are another dimension altogether... and if somehow we could control this dimension to the point of knowing exactly how to dream about certian things... who knows what else we could do?" ~JH477
      I, frankly, agree with this theory. If no one has ever experienced this kind of dream before, who are we to determine if it is real or not?? This kind of thing has probably never happened to anyone in the history of dreaming before, I'll wager, and this could go really far!! There's just really no limit to what we can do.

      "Shit, dude, what a great story! Seriously, go to Hollywood and try to pitch your story, you might make some money off it. This coming from an experienced scriptwriter whose sold two stories, so far. You can make some good money." ~LucyLoo
      I agree with this quote, also. Though I've never thought of making money off of it, most people would be scared out of their wits to ever go to sleep again, if you get my drift. I am now a true believer that Namoscis is telling the truth. What'd be the point in attracting SO MUCH attention for over a month, and still not tell the truth, theoretically, that he was still attracting so much attention? Which is what brings me to my next quote.

      "I don't see why Namcosis should lie for so long. I've talked to him on MSN messenger, and he's a nice person." ~Marvo
      People, don't you see the common sense behind this quote?! Namoscis is obviously telling the truth, or else he wouldn't be lying for this long!! I mean, the thought of lying for over a month just sounds absolutely ridiculous to me.

      "I myself find it would be a waste of time to lie for this long however what I say here is up to you." ~Namoscis
      Exactly. I agree completely. Though it IS up to us to decide if you're lying or not, I think it's time to face the facts.
      1. Namoscis has had this absolutely AMAZING dream.
      2. Half of us don't believe him.
      3. He says it felt like 30 days.
      4. No one has probably ever experienced this besides Namoscis.
      5. To all the nonbelievers out there, he's been "lying" for over a month
      6. For all the believers, he's been telling the truth and just wants some help with this crazy dream.
      Again, I'd like to point out that he's not stupid enough to be lying for over a month and then all of a sudden say, "Hey guys, the dream was fake, I just made it up to get some attention." I mean, how ridiculous does that sound?! please tell me that someone feels the same way here!!
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