Thread: Communicating With Dream Characters

dream:
i was with some others in the grocary shop of the mad Bulgarian (in reallity this person was my neighbour - the groccer was another person. very fat.)

he was pointing a laser gun through a window to a woman - i new she was stupidly in love, she was small, old-fassioned, not so nice.

i turned his rifle's mouth away (in fronf of his silent wife), saying something that convinced him to leave the intention to kill her.

han i was inside that house, with many people, and many things happaned. it could be the house of Tamar, my freind the mother of 9 kids.

i went to the room with the window facing the grocery, and saw the red glow of the laser rifle pointed at me, while hearing an explanation in my ear: "a good person pointed a gun at her and a bad person turned it away".
i woke, my daughter came to my bed - early morning - woke from a scary dream in which a witch attemped to kill her.

that was fortunate for me - at seeing the red glow i got this hit in my solar plexus apearing after harsh dreams, that leaves me unable to function for a day - unless i have a chance to cure it by clinging to somone's body.

http://spiritualitydiscussiongroup.y...pic/406?page=1

"alleys" are, according to don juan, carlos castaneda's teacher, inorganic being from another world, who help sorceers. they might appear either in dream or in reality.
my own experience:
http://spiritualitydiscussiongroup.yuku.com/topic/601

Don Juan said IBs [=DCs] usually appear as people close to the dreamer - "if you see your mother in a dream and it's bad, it's probably an IB".
my experience is it's true.
my own dream with Don Juan - i reckon, first the real one, later, on talking, loosing lucidity, a DC took over his character:
http://spiritualitydiscussiongroup.yuku.com/topic/538

I've read Don Juan is the mention of that entity in that one? Perhaps thats where it came from.

Now that my mind is back into the dreaming I did remember a little more of what it said to me.

It asked "What is your purpose"
I thought a moment and replied "I am a Guardian"
It replied "That is what you are not who you are"

Thats all I can remember.

My view of DC stems from my view of the dream world itself. There are several layers to it... (any of you makes a shrek onion comment and I bust out the frying pan)

The closest layer to this word is the mundane, the ones where nothing makes sense, those that I think is simply the biological part of the brain doing its maintenance tasks... Kinda like hard drive maintenance =D

Those that are a bit deeper are the ones where we brush the edge of something more, these are the dreams in which we have full control and can create at will with no effort. Sometimes there are interesting people we meet, and every once in a while you see them again. They can be the really deep characters, I still duno how many are creations of my own or just visitors.

And then there are the ones that are within the dreaming itself... Heh I still like to call it Tel'aran'rhiod Its the real dream world so to speak if that makes any sense. Places we go to again and again in our dream, time seems to make sense most of the time, and its as vivid, if not more, than this world. Where the DC's are not Characters, they are people. We can use our wills to manifest things but its not exactly full control.

Hah a friend of mine turned me onto a web comic recently after he heard my theories on the dream world check it out, its pretty cool. "The dream land chronicles".
After I read it I was like ... sonovahbitch he beat me to it! =D I emailed the creator and told hims so, but thanked him as now I could be lazy and just read his comic hehe.

Hi, this is an interesting subject. All of the dream characters that I have encountered so far in lucid dreams have all been friendly and helpful in pointing me in the direction of people I am trying to find.

I did tell one girl that she was a character in my dream and this made her go very sad and she asked me if that meant she would not be able to have children.

I felt sorry for her and decided I probably won't spring that kind of information on anymore characters, at least not the nice ones.

I was Thinking iadr, that if you meet a dream character that you may suspect is another dreamer, or claims to be another dreamer then just ask them to prove it by asking for their email address so you can email them in the physical world or give them your email and tell them to email you to prove it. That's what I am going to do if I get that feeling about a dream character.

I have seen other dream characters flying and wondered if they were other dreamers.... next time I might ask them

Originally Posted by Solid Air

I was Thinking iadr, that if you meet a dream character that you may suspect is another dreamer, or claims to be another dreamer then just ask them to prove it by asking for their email address so you can email them in the physical world or give them your email and tell them to email you to prove it. That's what I am going to do if I get that feeling about a dream character.

Excellent idea Solid Air. Thanks for suggesting that. I'm going to try to remember to do that.

Originally Posted by pj

I watch the bustling traffic, wondering again if I'm just dreaming or am really lucid. To test, I will a minor accident and watch as it happens instantly. As I watch, complete chaos ensues around the accident, with DCs yelling at each other and frantic as traffic comes to a complete halt. I feel really bad about it. The teacher pulls me away from the window, explaining that we really shouldn't be disrupting the world of DCs.

Excellent example pj, much funnier to look back at later than when it actually happened I'm sure.

It appears that some things in the dream world are better left alone.

BTW, I got the idea of trying to communicate with DC's a couple of days after reading something you had written, although at the time I had forgotten about it. So thanks for planting that seed in my mind, as this has become something I am now very interested in.

Hi. I am new to the forum. Without going into an entire history I have had dream awareness for some time and in the past couple of years have begun to verbally interact with DCs. Things have really peaked lately and I finally decided to go online with it.

I intially went into this interaction as if the DCs are completely my creation and thus my clay. In other words I was a rougue in my lucid dreams and much of the time did as I pleased (not always successful, since the more will I imposed often seemed to break the dream). I however, have been given some stunning responses. I was told by one DC, "that you would do well to treat us in a good manner if you planned on visiting in this dimension".

I woke from that in question. I won't go as far to say that those chararcters made me believe that was indeed a different dimension. But it certainly helped 'their' case in gaining a greater degree a realness. I almost can't believe I am refering to 'them' as 'them', and thus allowing DCs to have some form of influence over me.

Note: I'm new but the lucid stuff is coming on strong these days and I seemed to be getting varying but greater degrees of control. Otherwise this is only my second post ever, and first time actuall looking into the phenomenon.

Yeah I just don't get these people who go on killing sprees of DCs. I'm certainly going to try and get to know more of them and find out things from them if I can.

This is my first time on this site and only my second internet post about anything dream related. I woke up at 5:45 am today (it's 7:10 am now) after having a lucid dream where I relentlessly questioned two dream characters about what planet they were from! I started off by asking them if they were dreaming to which they gave me a confused look and replied no. At that point, I became extremely excited (thinking I had discovered some other "world") and looked down at my arms, which had goosebumps, and said "Oh, then what planet are we on? What is the name of this planet?" Both DC were reluctant to give me the name of the planet, but finally one said, "Insight." Then I said, "Well everyone on our planet dreams and this must be where they come when they're dreaming." Then one of the DC said, "So they visit the soul when they dream." I heard the word "soul" and I must have not caught on to the "message" he/she was trying to convey and instead I thought about the "solar system." Then, I asked "What solar system are you in?" I got a piece of paper to write down the info so I would remember upon waking and the name of the solar system was a word I had never heard of. It was Leih or Leihl? (I guess it doesn't matter anyway). Then, one of the DC started walking away, so I followed her. I asked her, "Do people on this planet read thoughts?" She was clearly irritated by my persistent questioning and said "yes." Then I got all excited again (as if I had made some magnificent discovery!) and said, "Oh, that means you're advanced. YOU'RE ADVANCED!" I then began telling her how I wished I lived on her planet because my planet sucks. She said, "no it doesn't." I said, "Oh yes it does! There are wars, poverty, and people killing each other all the time. It's really bad." Then I started crying real hard. She said she had to go and I asked for a hug from her, which she gave me, then I woke up.

The reason this dream is so monumental for me, is because I have always thought that dreaming involved me traveling to some other place and interacting with other "beings" or dead people (as my grandpa and friends who've died make appearances often, in fact on of my dead friends was in my dream this morning before the lucid dream). I've always rejected the idea that dreams and DC are just illusions? or part of my subconscious? After this dream (and reading this thread to confirm) I'm more convinced that DC aren't necessarily dead people or people at all. They may just be projections from me. So, to answer the question of this thread - yes, I have communicated with dream characters and yes they have told me something helpful. Now, with my new insight, I need to do some research on dreaming......

Welcome to the site newbieLucidDreamer,

And thanks for sharing such an incredibly interesting lucid dream. That was awesome!

I look forward to hearing a lot more from you.

Last night I had a LD that left me a bit troubled. It started out with me in my old high school in a class. Once I became lucid I few out of the room and down the hall. I remembered this thread and my desire to spend more time interacting with DCs. So I went and found some. They were rude and grabby. They actually chased me, yelling, "We want your energy!" I ended up flying up and landing in a tree to get away. I was terrified.

What bothered me was that it was such a negative and shallow dream. The DCs were flat -- no personality, etc. When I woke up I thought about it for a long time and finally came to the conclusion that I was simply living out my sleeping mind's expectations of preditory DCs. I am disapointed that I had so little luck finding out more about the complex, interesting DCs. Hopefully tonight, or another night soon will have better luck.

Originally Posted by seeker28

Last night I had a LD that left me a bit troubled. It started out with me in my old high school in a class. Once I became lucid I few out of the room and down the hall. I remembered this thread and my desire to spend more time interacting with DCs. So I went and found some. They were rude and grabby. They actually chased me, yelling, "We want your energy!" I ended up flying up and landing in a tree to get away. I was terrified.

What bothered me was that it was such a negative and shallow dream. The DCs were flat -- no personality, etc. When I woke up I thought about it for a long time and finally came to the conclusion that I was simply living out my sleeping mind's expectations of preditory DCs. I am disapointed that I had so little luck finding out more about the complex, interesting DCs. Hopefully tonight, or another night soon will have better luck.

Sounds like something out of one of those old zombie movies seeker28 (lol).

I agree that it sounds like you were just living out your minds expectations of preditory DC's because my DC's are usually very friendly toward me.

Hopefully your next encounter with the DC's will be more pleasant, and one in which you will get a chance to talk to them and ask them some questions.

Good luck, and thanks for sharing your experience!

Welcome to DreamViews, newbieLucidDreamer! I don't know if your name is appropriate--you sound pretty advanced!

That is a very interesting dream. Do you keep a dream journal? We have a section here at DV for that; I would love to read more of your dreams, if that is something that you would be interested in doing.

Thanks for sharing.

Last night I got lucid and started flying. When I landed near a DC he shouted over at me annoyed "Hey, don't do that". I assumed he was referring to the fact I was flying so I just ignored him.

I decided to time travel back to 1963 to witness the JFK assassination in Dallas. I started spinning and repeating my target phrase and as I was doing this DCs started crowding round me and were looking at me as if I was mad.

This really put me off and I messed up my target phrase a couple of times, and I thought I may not be able to teleport. eventually everything went white and I was teleported but not to my target.

I was definitely back in time but I didn't know exactly what year. It felt like it could have been the 60's. I asked a DC what year it was and she said "It's either 1965 or 1975" her mum who was with her said "It's 1945". To which I replied "No it can't be as there would be a war on".

Another DC started trying to tell me it was 1960 and that she had a degree etc etc as I was trying to walk away she kept on talking about herself. I came to the conclusion that the DCs had no idea themselves what year it was they were living in.

Ended up being a good long lucid dream though!!!!

Originally Posted by Solid Air

Another DC started trying to tell me it was 1960 and that she had a degree etc etc as I was trying to walk away she kept on talking about herself. I came to the conclusion that the DCs had no idea themselves what year it was they were living in.

Ended up being a good long lucid dream though!!!!

Interesting conclusion Solid Air, and a very interesting lucid.

That's a great idea to go back in time and relive some event. I'll have to try that.

I become aware that I am dreaming when I start seeing images of various places cross my mind.

As I concentrate on the images I get pulled into the dream and find myself floating along a riverbank that runs along a cliff.

When I think about trying the lucid task of asking a DC what my dream name is again I find myself back in my bed with my cat up on my chest.

Only my cat seems much larger than normal as when she lays down next to me she is almost as long as I am.

I then feel my dog climb up in the bed and lay down on the other side of me. (My dog is too old and large to be able to get up in bed with me, so this had to just be her spirit).

After enjoying the company of my pets spirits for a while I decide it is time to venture out, so I think about floating and float out of my body.

I soon find myself walking around in a large hole in the ground that appears to be something like a prison yard, only it is down in the ground.

After walking around in this large hole for a while I realize I have been walking when I could have been flying, so then start slowly flying around the yard.

I also notice that I have had my eyes wide open this whole time so decide to close my eyes so that I won’t be tired in the morning when I get up.

I find that I am able to see just as well with my eyes closes as I could while they were open.

I find myself in a building going down a stairwell where I meet a guy I used to work with 6 years ago.

I decide to test him, so ask him who he is.

He looks at me really funny, as if to say, "Why are you asking me that, you know who I am".

When I ask him again, he tells me his name.

When I ask him where he is from he again looks at me really funny as if to say "Why are you asking me that, you know where I am from", so I just tell him that I was just checking to make sure it was him, and stop questioning him.

I then find myself in another building that seems like an apartment complex.

As I float through this apartment complex in which everyone’s door is open, I see different families in each of the room.

In one room I see my own parents and brothers sitting around a table.

I float in to get a closer look at them and then leave.

I then find myself in what seems to be someone’s house where I meet a DC who is somewhat heavy set, but very friendly and congenial toward me.

When I ask him his name he tells me his name is Bob.

The house I am in is very unusual as it is not only carpeted on the floor, but is also carpeted on the walls and ceiling. It is a very large house with many rooms.

It appears to be a dream house that Bob has created out here in the dream world.

Bob shows me all around his dream house as I follow him around floating from room to room.

I notice that Bob has a wife and two kids there with him in his house.

When I ask Bob if the wife and kids he has with him there in his dream world are the same wife and two kids he has in the physical world, he looks at me sort of funny, hesitates, and then says Yes.

I ask Bob if he has a computer and an email address in the physical world after which he says Yes, that he has 3 or 4 email addresses.

When I ask Bob what his email address is he rattles off some numbers like 113345, but never gives me an extension.

I sense that Bob would prefer that I become more skilled at visiting this realm before he gives me his email address, so don’t push him anymore for it.

I ask Bob if he has ever been to Dreamviews.com on the internet and he tells me that he has never been there and that he just learned how to do this on his own.

In my experience Bob seemed to be a real person who has been able to create a dream house for him and his family in the dream world where they go at night when they go to sleep.

Fantastic Lucid dream iadr,

I like the fact that you take your time to explore and don't rush about trying to do everything at once.

Well done fore remembering to ask a DC for his email, although I suspected it would not be as striaght forward as it seemed. maybe you should have given him yours and asked him to email you a hello in the physical world.

Did you get into this dream via a WILD or a DILD? I'm still working on getting a WILD.

In a very vivid, high level lucid dream I had a couple of weeks ago I was flying and stated that I wanted to visit Lynne, a girlfriend from years ago. I was teleported to her home town and it was present day.

There were many DCs about when I arrived and I asked one where Lynne was. The DC replied "upstairs" and pointed to the stairs. I went up the stairs and into an office where DCs were working.

I asked them where Lynne was and they pointed me over to her work place. They were very friendly and helpful and smiled. I went up to lynne and started a conversation along the lines of " Hi Lynne , remember me? I still think about you"

She told me I shouldn't be thinking about her and what happened between us 17 years ago, and that I should concentrate on the people in my life now that are important to me. After that she didn't want to talk and two big guys escorted me out of the building.

I thought she gave me very good advice and left the office and went on to explore the town.

Solid Air

Originally Posted by Solid Air

Did you get into this dream via a WILD or a DILD? I'm still working on getting a WILD.

In a very vivid, high level lucid dream I had a couple of weeks ago I was flying and stated that I wanted to visit Lynne, a girlfriend from years ago. I was teleported to her home town and it was present day.

There were many DCs about when I arrived and I asked one where Lynne was. The DC replied "upstairs" and pointed to the stairs. I went up the stairs and into an office where DCs were working.

I asked them where Lynne was and they pointed me over to her work place. They were very friendly and helpful and smiled. I went up to lynne and started a conversation along the lines of " Hi Lynne , remember me? I still think about you"

She told me I shouldn't be thinking about her and what happened between us 17 years ago, and that I should concentrate on the people in my life now that are important to me. After that she didn't want to talk and two big guys escorted me out of the building.

I thought she gave me very good advice and left the office and went on to explore the town.
Solid Air

Interesting dream Solid Air.

You actually got advice from a DC after finding her with the help of the other DC's.

Very good interaction with the DC's.

My dream was a WILD this time as the dream images just started coming to me while I was relaxing, which then pulled me into the dream when I concentrate on them.

I had taken 8mg galantamine with 500mg of choline and 600mg of alpha-gpc which is probably why it was so easy to remember everything I wanted to do, as the supplements really help with mental clarity while in the dream state.

So heres how I think it works.

So... Why arent there telekinetics everywhere? Why can we not use our will to simply move objects across the room.
Well because it takes too much energy and focus to do such a thing given the physical laws of this universe.

So what do we have to interact with this reality? These handy dandy bodies of course.

The spirit interacts with the human brain at measures of time near the plank scale, pretty much the smallest measure of time we can think of at the moment. Think of it as comparing a powerlifter to an endurance lifter. A powerlifter can bench a huge amount of weight, once or twice, an endurance lifter can lift much less weight for a longer period of time.

So at such small intervals the spirit is able to jolt a neuron in the brain into sending off a signal. The handy dandy body aplifies this tiny signal and makes the flesh move.

Its like a remote control device and the body is the RC car.

A baby does not have full control over their body because the spirit is in a tuning stage with the flesh, learning how to use it and such.
The brain also has additional function as a memory unit it stores the day by day stuff we experience and in the mundane dreams the spirit goes through it and makes sense of it all. Habits tasks and other stuff is kept in the brain for easy retreival, perhaps accessing the spirit memory is more difficult?

We know that perception can guide quantum outcomes so why not in the brain! Each spirit is tuned into one brain, in the case of twins you know all the stories two spirits similar bodies so yes they share a little interaction.

When we sleep, the spirit lets go of the connections to the brain and we can travel through the ether. Quantum wormholes exist everywhere, sure you cant send matter through it but something made of energy should not have too much problem. I duno its out there but who knows?

I know im trying to blend quantum science with mysticism and that in itself should just make my brain implode but hey! Also I dont claim to be an expert in Quantum mechanics, I have a basic understanding but thats it, and if anyone does say they are an expert, they are lying... we still know very little about how this reality works.

So with all of this we are able to communicate with other spirits in our dreams, and the places we go to that seem real and reoccur? Perhaps their continued existance is from a collective memory, or mebby Gaia does exist and projects places into the ether?

I'm just kinda ranting off, but this is sota how I think things work.

Ideas, comments, arguments?

Originally Posted by Serinanth

Ideas, comments, arguments?

Quantum Consciousness is actually a pretty well fleshed out theory, and it makes a lot of sense.

It also means that whatever it is that makes us conscious exists at the quantum level - and thus truly is eternal, as the conventional rules government macro-level space-time don't work at that level.

The most wise looking of the, has the least to say.. Seems one had to learn it by onself to learn it. They give hints, and they answer questions weirdly. But I alwos grown by what I learned from them..

Originally Posted by pj

Quantum Consciousness is actually a pretty well fleshed out theory, and it makes a lot of sense.

It also means that whatever it is that makes us conscious exists at the quantum level - and thus truly is eternal, as the conventional rules government macro-level space-time don't work at that level.

Sweet! I'm not as out there as I thought!

I've only had one experience with a "different" DC, it was in a lucid a while back, I had just walked into a room and he was standing there. We didn't say anything but he was smiling at me and when he looked at me he actually looked at me, not like other DCs (man this is hard to explain) who just seemed to look past me or ignore me. His eyes were a deep blue which is different to other DCs because every other DC that I've met has had grey eyes.

Hey scarred.. you should have talked to him.. or maybe you did?

I know exactly what you mean. I've said it before, you can tell the depth of the person in front of you by looking into their eyes. DC's included.