is SP really needed to WILD?

So I been trying to get a WILD. The problem is I cant get my body into SP. But in a matter of a minute my hands go numb very quickly and thats it. I would sit there for hours and the numbing would go away. Its rare if I exp. waves, I dont understand what Im doing wrong. Heres what I do: Sleep for aboult 5hrs then stay up for maybe 10mins to 15. Go to the bathroom then I would lay in my bed on my back. Focus on my breathing, gulping every now and again. Then my hands go numb and thats it. I dont get HI too.

Maybe you cannot WILD because you are too focused on reacing SP?

Hypnagogic Sleep Paralysis is a hard one to notice in my opinion and is rarely important to experience a WILD anyway - In my experience I don't really experience any Hypnagogic Imagery either but can successfully WILD at most attempts!

Some people will tell you different, but from what I have learnt from my tried and tested methods I notice neither SP nor HI when I WILD. I look more for a shifting sensation I bring into my body to successfully reach the transitional period between consciousness and WILD.

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Well then what should I focus on though? Ive tried just lying there but nothing happens. I dont get HI or SP so.... I dont know what Im supposed to do. I tried laying there but nothing happens... What should I do?

I had a problem like this. About a week after I began to record my dreams though I had WILDs for about two weeks, well I call them WILDs but I was more or less asleep. I don't know what induced it and why I can't do it now but I woke up a couple of times in the middle of the night in SP, and I was away so quickly I didn't even notice I was parylised. I didn't get excited either when I got vibrations and to me this would be the best situation to induce an OBE/lucid dream. It's just a shame you can't seem to control it...

Sounds to me like you are too awake. Maybe when you get up, don't stay awake for so long, maybe something like 7 minutes, you need to be able to go back to sleep without too much frustration.

Just close your eyes and picture walking about in a particular scenario or something similar, the idea is to keep your mind conscious whilst your body falls to sleep.

Something that helped me with my first WILD was concentrating on the noise that my dad was making upstairs with his stationary bicycle. I focused on the sounds while my body gently started to get paralyzed. Maybe you can concentrate in a repetitive noise like the ticking of a clock or the birds of dawn? You have to let all worry vanish, when I enter sleep paralysis I could say I feel almost like I had taken a relaxing drug.

I think the kicker for WILDing is that you have to be able to enter REM sleep shortly after having been awake enough to be thinking (no deeper than Stage 1 sleep/hypnagogia). The times when I feel SP vibrations just happen to be the only times (or almost the only times) I fall into REM sleep shortly enough after having been awake or almost awake. I usually pass through Stage 2 sleep, where thinking is minimal, for a while before dreaming, and forget that I was just about to dream.

It's not required, but it usually happens for me anyway. It's just one of those stages that's really hard, and almost impossible to miss if you pull off the WILD properly.

The only way you can really miss SP is if you have a unusually calm episode of it, or slip out of consciousness before it occurs, and become lucid after it has finished.