I absolutely hate when I do a reality check, and it passes for reality. In one of my dreams last night, I did THREE and I was convinced it was reality.
Then I woke up, considerably angry.
Anyone else have similar experiences?
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I absolutely hate when I do a reality check, and it passes for reality. In one of my dreams last night, I did THREE and I was convinced it was reality.
Then I woke up, considerably angry.
Anyone else have similar experiences?
What reality check did you do?
Pushing fingers through palm and then I looked at a digital clock twice.
Thats what I do! I always try to puch my fingers through my palm.. Now I'm worried!!!
Don't be, they've always worked for me before, but everyone has moments where they don't. The one where you hold your nose, close your mouth, and try to breath has never failed for me.
I usualy do that one when I'm not convinced I'm not dreaming.
I never had to do it before, the finger one usually works, but the dream wasn't even that vivid last night so I really didn't care. It's just that I couldn't fall asleep until 2 so I was surprised I got my REM.
always do the breathing RC. it can't fail!
It failed for me last night! :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Blitzwing
In the dream, I plugged my nose and tried breathing and it worked, and I got really excited. But then I realized that my mouth may have been open, so I tried it again and I couldn't breath, so I figured I wasn't dreaming. DX It was the first time that I'd ever done a reality check in a dream too! I was so disappointed. ||OTL
lol I did that last night for the first time and it didnt fail.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scarhand
When you RC, it's not just the physical action that's important. It's also vital that you critically consider whether or not you are dreaming.
That really worries me :shock:, i thought reality checks never failed!
Hmmm.....
Has anyone got a reality check that has never failed?
The brain can make these things fail. Maybe its best to try a few just to be safe. And make them of different sorts. My last one is always to attempt to fly, which usually works if I'm dreaming.Quote:
Originally Posted by 5triker
hmmmm??? the breathing RC actually really CANT fail! you must have a strong subconsciousness, because the breathing RC is just physically logical: when youre dreaming your bodys breathing automatically and when youre closing mouth and nose while dreaming and try to breath your real body will breath...
maybe your body really wasnt breathing in that moment. did you try it for longer? how long can you hold your breath, victorybear? try do it longer than you can hold your breath...
Can too if you have a stuffy nose.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blitzwing
This guy has a point here.Quote:
Originally Posted by MadHatter17
Yeah, you could be right. I can usually hold my breath for about a minute or so pretty easily, and in the dream, I think I tried it for about five seconds maybe. I probably should have done more than one type of reality check in that moment though, but I wasn't really thinking clearly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blitzwing
It's failed for me before. I'm not convinced that breathing in dreams is always directly linked to RL breathing, or that experiencing breathing at all in dreams is even necessary.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blitzwing
i dont know. could be true... BUT when breathing isnt necessary in your dream or dream and body breathing arnt connected, THAN the breathing RC worked! ;) you get that? ^^ > when you dont need to breath it cant be reality, cause you need to breath (except you wanna die)!Quote:
Originally Posted by archdreamer
or did I get you wrong? :? ^^
You'll always breathe in your dream if you can breathe in real life.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blitzwing
Dream worlds and reality are somewhat like parallel dimensions as your state of breathing in the real world directly affects your breathing in your dream.
The breathing reality check works so well for me that I've done it twice without intending to (as in it's part of the dream's storyline) and it still caused me to become lucid.
Oh the failed realioty checks... The common ones never work for me, my dreams are simply so logic <.<
i had 2 lucid dreams so far and i failed the finger thru palm rc when i was about to jump out my window plugged my nose and i could breathe so i just jumped down and floated always plug ure nose :)
As i said ^^Quote:
Originally Posted by maxy126
the best reality check by far is attempting to remember waking up that morning. If you can't remember past 5 minutes ago, you're dreaming for sure
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If reality checks fail but it does feel like a dream somhow then try to do som things that are considerd impossible in reality like telekinesis, teleport, make somthing appear or disappear, change the color of the sky etc etc Anything
I agree that all reality checks can fail, they just usually don't. Even the nose one has failed for me a couple of times. A good reality check is jumping and trying to fly. I usually try three to five different ones until I'm sure I'm dreaming or not.
i always count my fingers, it usually works. Last night i looked at my hands in the dream and i saw i had only 4 fingers. and its a really easy reality check do do when your awake.
If you were dreaming that would take an awful lot of thinking power though, which would probably wake you up :(! But if you didn't mind waking up then yeh, that would be the best :).Quote:
Originally Posted by MSUPokerGod
whoooooaa that exact thing happened to me last night... its actually freaky a little bit, but the excitement of knowing its for sure a dream overpowers the freakyness ^_^Quote:
Originally Posted by jongiambi
remembering what you were doing a little while ago takes a lot of thinking power? Is that cause it activates the memory part of your brain (hippocampus) and this isn't usually activated? or are you just theorizing?Quote:
If you were dreaming that would take an awful lot of thinking power though, which would probably wake you up ! But if you didn't mind waking up then yeh, that would be the best .
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It takes next to no thinking power you look at your hands when your awake and in the dream you look by habit and see your hands look wavy or have less or more fingers and you become lucid.Quote:
Originally Posted by MSUPokerGod
well yeah but this thread is about failed reality checks, I'm assuming that the hands one is common enough that this thread wouldn't exist if it were indeed a completely foolproof test... as remembering waking up certainly isQuote:
Originally Posted by jongiambi
while we're on the topic... I also like the technique of examining something closely to see if its texture is consistent. This is also a technique used to extend the lucid dream if you are indeed in one, I remember seeing on these forums (don't remember exactly where). Try to pick something complicated... I'm looking at the wood grain of my loft for example, a bunch of small swirls and dots that remain completely constant when I stare at them.
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But sure it can. If you believe you can't breath, you simply can't. I don't think there is such a thing as a perfect RC. It's important that you expect an RC to fail in a dream (reality check failing = dreaming), if you don't, it most likely won't. Mechanically repeating RCs during the day without questioning the state will probably take you nowhere. You'd just do them in dreams the same way, mechanically and pointlessly. But if you question your state when doing an RC, I think you don't even have to fully execute it when dreaming. The act of questioning your state may already be enough to become lucid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blitzwing
BOOOOOOOO! I failed the fingers through palm one last night :<
That's right. It happened to me. I could breath but I still had a feeling that I wasn't getting enough air. Luckily I had encountered a dream sign so I continued with other RCs that worked. Maybe it's best to do 2 or 3 different RCs.Quote:
Originally Posted by MadHatter17
@ gigaschatten:
no, really. the breathing rc actually can't fail, cos your real body is always brathing. there are just two ways that RC cant lead you into a LD:
- your mind is so strong that your real body is holding its breath (so you gotta do the RC longer than you can hold your breath, but...)
-... this could cause you to wake up.
What you perceive in your dream must not necessarily be what your real body does. I had dreams where I drowned and could not breathe no matter how hard I tried. I woke up in the end.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blitzwing
uhm.. as I said. ^^ no really: as i said.Quote:
Originally Posted by gigaschatten
It's of no use as an RC if it wakes me up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blitzwing
Remember, if there is any question to whether or not you are dreaming, then you are dreaming.
yeah, but it never tells you that you aren't dreaming when you are dreaming ^^Quote:
Originally Posted by gigaschatten
and yeah thanks tdsand, cool mnemonic ^^
I think a good sign that you are dreaming is when you are emotionally strongly upset. I can't recall any dream where that wasn't the case, no matter what kind of emotion it is. If you count to 10 to calm you down when upset, maybe adding an RC would be helpful.