Thinking in a lucid dream

Hey guys, I just did a Google search for "lucid dream forum" so that I could share the experience I had last night on a discussion forum. I've had a few lucid dreams every now and then, and some quasi-lucid dreams where I'm vaguely aware that I'm dreaming and can control things. But last night I had a lucid dream where I was actually aware of thinking inside the dream, separately from the thoughts that were actually creating the dream itself, and I found it rather interesting.

So, in the dream I was looking at some pictures of myself on a plane. Next thing I knew, I was on the plane in the present. The plane was much larger than they are in real life; for some reason they always are in my dreams. A friend of mine had a seat in the row behind me, so I started talking to him. In the conversation I actually mentioned the present reality being a dream, something along the lines of, "... in a dream like this one." Then I stopped and realized what I had just said, and it dawned on me that I was having a dream and completely aware of it. So I thought to myself, "Maybe I can have a lucid dream."

One thing interesting is that I could actually look around in the dream without anything changing or going all wacky and disrupting the laws of physics.

So I started floating around in the plane. The next part is the part that I find interesting. I started thinking about things to dream about. I was actually visualizing things the way I would in real life. I actually wondered if thinking about these things would cause them to manifest, since it was a dream, and technically everything I was experiencing was just a thought in itself. But they all remained thoughts, separate from what I was experiencing in the dream.

Continuity was disrupted however. I found myself walking through a building with my friend, and was completely oblivious to the fact that I had just been on a plane. I actually had intended to exit the plane and go through the terminal, but there was no transition. I was suddenly off the plane, and the building wasn't an airport. But other than that, I was still thinking of things to dream about, and none of them became real without my wanting them to. I decided to stay in the building and play around a bit with powers, floating and whatnot.

Eventually I approached the building's exit and some sort of disturbance happened; either security stopped me or there was a rude person or something, maybe a bank robber. That part is a bit vague. But I decided to handle it by turning into a god of some sort. At this point, I seemed to be losing the awareness that I was dreaming. Sometimes I'll figure out that I'm dreaming and give myself powers, but then I'll eventually forget that it's a dream and accept the powers as part of reality.

So anyway, I became this large terrible being and in a deep rumbling voice, I declared "I am Omniptipus..." then I stopped and thought about it... Omniptipus? Does it really have to end with "pus"? Not very formidable. So I said, "Okay, forget I just said that." Then I tried again, "I am Omnipitus!" Apparently I still have a sense of humor even when I turn myself into a terrible god.

I woke up shortly after that. But I was thinking about it just now how I could actually think about things within the dream without them becoming the dream.

well it's dreams about lucid dreams... happens almost everynight here

heh, I once dreamed that I was in a class with my teatcher yelling at me to pay attention. I sat there thinking that the world around me was completely nonsensical and I must be dreaming, so I teleported through the ceiling and started flying around.

For some reason, I wasted like 2 minutes explaining to a DC that I was in a dream before I relised it was pointless. Then i started thinking what the hell I could do and had a mental block. So I was just flying around and eventually became so excited that the dream ended. :P

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Originally Posted by Omniptipus

So I started floating around in the plane. The next part is the part that I find interesting. I started thinking about things to dream about. I was actually visualizing things the way I would in real life. I actually wondered if thinking about these things would cause them to manifest, since it was a dream, and technically everything I was experiencing was just a thought in itself. But they all remained thoughts, separate from what I was experiencing in the dream.

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I read your dream with amusement, I especially liked the Omnipotent Octopus (associations I guess) and how you started "floating around the plane", which I could just imagine I would do as well. :)

I've realized that thought in itself has limited power in changing the dream. The real power is thoughts in combination with some kind of emotion. Once I expect and anticipate a manifestation, kind of "feel" it already without it being there, manifestation comes rather quickly. Basically, you're kind of gullible in the dream state, believing almost anything (which is why remaining lucid is a problem). But this same fact gives the power to create, because you can tell yourself "this and this is going to happen", make a little effort to believe it, and it will happen.

So that's what happens when I add a little more to thought. When the thoughts are relatively "neutral", chances are not much will happen, and you can just think things over for a while before taking action. This is what I think happened when you wondered if your visualizations would be creative. Wondering if something will happen means you don't fully believe and expect it to happen, so it will probably not happen. But you expected to eventually leave the plane, and you did. See my point?

So, in my experience, mastery consists of mastering my emotional reactions, because I can sculpt the dream with them.

As always, this is all just my point of view, there is no objective truth.