Thread: I've experienced sleep paralysis but this was violent..

I've never had anything like that happen to me. I concur though, old hag can occur from any sleeping position. I can't tell for sure, but I suspect you WILDed into an extremely vivid false awakening while lying there on the couch. At least that's all that makes sense to me right now.

Yikes that sounds terrifying! I've had sleep paralysis happen to me a couple times (actually it was at the start of a stretch of LD's I began having over the course of several months) but never anything that violent.

Now I'm not certain if what I experienced was a true sleep paralysis, as I was dreaming it, and the ONLY way I know it was a dream, was the fact that I was wearing a different shirt in the dream, from what I was when I woke up and realized it wasn't real.

In mine I'd been dreaming I was lying on my back, listening to the rain falling down hitting the roof. Listening to it, sort of put me into a trance of sorts, and I noticed that there were specks of lint glowing on my shirt, as if under a black light. I stared at the spots of light, mesmerized by them and they began to grow in intensity with the pounding of the rain.

Than I heard the sound of the bedroom door opening, and heard someone come into the room. It was dark in the room and I couldn't see anything, and had assumed it was my husband. Next thing I know I can't move. I can't scream. I feel this increasing pressure of weight upon my chest, and what felt like distinct pressure points (as if hands) on my shoulder and arm.

Than a voice whispered something into my ear. I can't quite remember what it was for sure, because I was panicking so badly, but it either said "You're awake." or You're awake?" It was either a statement/fact, or a question. I tried to wake myself up, convinced it must be a dream, but nothing worked, which led me to believe it must be really happening. And than the only thing I could think of was I was going to be raped by a ghost.

I finally woke up to the realization that my body was struggling against something that wasn't there anymore and I had been trying to scream. I think it was my struggling which had woken me up.

Although the second time it began to happen, I recognized the heavey feeling upon my chest and turned it into a lucid dream.

Originally posted by the beauty who sleeps
Yikes that sounds terrifying!

It was pretty intense! As was your experience! It's nice to know that others have their share of \"frightening\" experiences. Thanks you so much for sharing!

Originally posted by the beauty who sleeps
Although the second time it began to happen, I recognized the heavey feeling upon my chest and turned it into a lucid dream.

Would you please share how you were able to turn it into a lucid dream. I am going to attempt to lucid dream tomorrow morning and I know I'll be feeling a little apprehensive but I've got to "get back on the horse." :-)

Any tips on how to turn sleep paralysis into a lucid dream will be MOST appreciated!

Would you please share how you were able to turn it into a lucid dream. I am going to attempt to lucid dream tomorrow morning and I know I'll be feeling a little apprehensive but I've got to \"get back on the horse.\" [/b]

The first episode and the second time it happened were about 3 weeks apart. But because the first time it put such an impression upon me, that it always seemed to be at the back of my mind, wondering what exactly it was. The second time it happened, I recognized the same feeling of heaviness upon my chest. And I knew immediately that I was dreaming. There was no doubt. I still felt paralized, but instead of fighting against the heaviness, I went with it and even tried to increase the feeling.

Than I imagined rocking back and forth from side to side on my bed. I think I was trying to astral project at the time. At one point I rolled over suddenly on the bed and thought it hadn't worked, and had only woken me up, but I realized as soon as I moved again, that I was dreaming and from than on it was easy to control everything else. I than flew, but kept flying higher and higher in this lucid dream. This was around the time that all I ever did was really fly. I can't remember exactly where I flew, but I continued to fly so high I reached outerspace (or my version of it anyways lol)

Good luck with trying to get back into it. Hopefully it works out for you.

Yea I think you might have been dreaming. Not that it really matters either way. Crazy things happen all the time when you try to have lucid dreams. You shouldn't let it stop you, as you said it didn't really have an effect other than being a little scary, so theres no harm done.

I have never had sleep paralysis before, when I try WILD's and stuff I got straight into dreams and when I wake up its instant. I have heard if you have it though, you can enter a dream by trying to get up, or how you where laying down trying to roll off the couch would be good. Well thats really for oob stuff but a lot of people say thats just dreaming anyway.

I've had violent attacks in that state. I've had many experiences with 'old hag' and like you too I just concentrate on white light and it is not too bad. The three worst I can think of was having the breath sucked out of me until it felt like I was lifeless and also being strangled once again to the point of having almost nothing left. This happen in an old TB hospital that had been converted into flats. I never stayed in that room again. I only slept in there twice and both times it freaked the fuck out of me. I just focused on white light tho and eventually I woke up. The third was most bizarre and not too violent and I have not experienced and old hag or violence since then. I was lying on my stomach I was hit with the color red, I felt a negative energy near me but passed it off as being nothing. Next thing the energy lays on top of me and my whole body tingled, not in a positive way. This time I acknowledged its presence in a calm manner. I was not too threatened. I just said who are you and what do you want to it telepathically. It got straight off me and I woke up. Now I have had nothing else like that happen again. Old hag use to be quite regular for me but not anymore.

Now reading over all that just sounds wacky but it did actually happen, what it was I do not claim to know.

Anyway, white light works as you know and being calm and not threatened works too.

You have power in that realm too; you just have to believe it.

Peace Sensi.

sleep paralyis. Sitting in a chair at work during midnight shift. drift drift dift.... off. Oh my god, I feel asleep at work, what is that evil presence, have I been abducted? Its worse, I cant move. Must use WILLPOWER... ok, I got my fingure to move. Go away evil spirits! Am I in a coma? Slowly gaining control. Ok, I'm better now. I am awake and I can now move. No more evil spirits or aliens, back to reality. Can you tell that I have experienced it?

Hi clarity,
Im just replying to all your posts you pmed me, all very interesting, Im enjoying the reads.
I presume you were stuck in the hypnogogic state, unable to move, somehow when this happens our awareness is lost and even sometimes while leaving the body, the astral body can be half way out causing such violence and disturbances to the body, due to energy conflicts and not having control at the same time..
its good you remained calm and I think you handled it very well!!
I have found myself in this state where I could hear and feel things around me, normaly in this state, people are very afraid for some reason, in my own opinion I think that some how during the process we end up in the inbetween life and death state, which usualy happens in the hypnogogic state...
I have read that even people who have obed many times and are masters at it, are even afraid in this state, I have spoken with my group about this several times, and it is now my theory that we can access a much more dominant layer of consciousness perhaps where we are not as strong, and the physical mind is weak due to the energy levels..
though I don't think anything can harm you, I still think it can be a fearful experience, and I have had feelings of overwhelming energy in this level or state..

Hi there,

Im a 37 year old man, and i've been having this reoccuring 'old hag' for many years, since I was a young teenager. Sometimes, the woman sweeps in and swoops out without any violent ending, but lately, the ending has been getting very bad. She floats around the room, in her cloak, cant see her face, but something is telling me she is a woman. Then from nowhere she is on top of me, cant breath, and her hands slide gently around my neck to begin the strangle process, which, as soon as this begins, i wake up.
Now, people can draw their own conclusions from these nightmares, and I have always kept an open mind. For many years I have suffered from depression, alcohol abuse and smoking. Recently, I have been diagnosed with a gastro problem, which has led me onot a new road of clean living and healthy lifestyle. I have quit the cigarettes, started jogging, and really started to shape a new life of all round happiness. Its not for everyone, and dont get me wrong, im finding it very hard to maintain it, but im determined to live a more healhier lifestyle.
Since i started the new regime, the dreams have stopped!
I sleep more soundly and wake in a more positive persona.

'Old Hag' is a horrendous situation to have to suffer, and im still unsure as to what it was all about...was it just my health, or is she something that appears to warn us.
Like i said, i keep an open mind. Good luck everyone and God Bless.

Originally posted by Tillerman93
I have quit the cigarettes, started jogging, and really started to shape a new life of all round happiness. Its not for everyone, and dont get me wrong, im finding it very hard to maintain it, but im determined to live a more healhier lifestyle.
Since i started the new regime, the dreams have stopped!
I sleep more soundly and wake in a more positive persona.

'Old Hag' is a horrendous situation to have to suffer, and im still unsure as to what it was all about...was it just my health, or is she something that appears to warn us.
Like i said, i keep an open mind. Good luck everyone and God Bless.

Tillerman93, first, welcome to the forum and second, congratulations on your new healthier lifestyle
(an added bonus being no more bad dreams)!

Good luck and God's blessings to you as well.

Originally posted by Clairity
Somehow the words \"I am protected by pure white light\" came into my mind and it all... just... stopped.
..

Here is one essay I found on the White Light:

http://deoxy.org/annex/cwl.htm


This second essay is very long, and so I recommend search-finding to the 'white light' section.

http://www.sivanandadlshq.org/download/kun...i.htm#_VPID_133

In perhaps my most powerful Lucid Dream, I had intoned an AUM and levitated up into the air to simply hoover and meditate. The air around me turned a violet hue and began to shimmer in waves, and then, about 10 meters in front of me, the fabric of space simply tore open and out poured the White Light. It was very intense. It looked like the light of burning magnesium being reflected from a chromium mirror. It formed up into a Paramahansa Swan (the trademark symbol of both the Ramakrishna Vivekananda Missions, and the Self Realization Fellowship founded by Yogananda) and then it, despite its large size (a meter tall, a meter wide), it zapped into my forehead. And then again and again and again. The Swan would reform out of the White Light -- at first very ornate -- artifically ornate and very elaborate in a statueques way. But with each repetition the Swan became simpler and simpler and the repetitions more rapid, until the Birds were coming into my head many times each second and the Birds were like simple 'Vees' -- just two wings the way that small children draw flying birds.

Also, years before I had a vision of a Mystical Cross. Instead of being a two dimensional cross, it was 3 dimensional, with another set of perpendicular arms coming out to the side... and front and back. The Cross turned slowly. It was very ornate. Jewel encrusted -- rubies, sapphires and emeralds. But whenever one of the arms turned to face me and I could look straight down into it -- out shown that same pure White Light -- like magnesium light being reflected by chrome.

I think when we reach a higher vibrational state, it's like we can interact with non-physical entities. I've had an experience where I was in my bed with overwhelmingly strong vibrations and something was rolling me around. I wanted to move my arms, but they were in sleep paralysis. I knew I was awake because my dad slammed his truck door shut and that startled me and stopped this from happening. From there, I turned on the radio and figured out it was reality.

Your description of the initial "attack" make it not quite clear whether you had intense vibrations or not. Were there strong vibrations?

Originally posted by DistantClone
Your description of the initial \"attack\" make it not quite clear whether you had intense vibrations or not. Were there strong vibrations?

Nope..I heard a screeching/scraping sound and I thought that vibrations would soon start but instead the "attack" occurred.

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Somehow the words \"I am protected by pure white light\" came into my mind and it all... just... stopped.
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Also, years before I had a vision of a Mystical Cross. Instead of being a two dimensional cross, it was 3 dimensional, with another set of perpendicular arms coming out to the side... and front and back. The Cross turned slowly. It was very ornate. Jewel encrusted -- rubies, sapphires and emeralds. But whenever one of the arms turned to face me and I could look straight down into it -- out shown that same pure White Light -- like magnesium light being reflected by chrome.[/b]

I had a similar experience. Jesus told me that I was going to see something Ive never seen before, and there was the cross with white light coming at me.

I've not experienced/ seen/felt the "Old Hag".. I've heard these strange sounds before, though. To be honest, it really frightened me. I've been a bit skeptical of WILDing and such now. I've not really tried it much since. I guess I let it have the better of me.. v_v.
I know I should try it again, but after reading what has happened to all of you, I realized this could happen to me, which frightened me even more. I'm not much for horror movies. I usually try to avoid them. And, like a horror movie, I find myself avoiding WILDing and any method of lucid induction, except DILD. I think I need to will myself to try again, though. I might try tonight, but I can't be sure.

Vivid, just remember that it's all in your head. Your mind is just trying to make sense out of the sensations that your body is experiencing.. there is no real physical danger.

You just need to "breathe" your way through it.

I heard this can happen when expriencing sleep paralysis but it is rare. Sometimes you will see a figure standing over you and sometimes it will attack you.

Originally Posted by ld master

I heard this can happen when expriencing sleep paralysis but it is rare. Sometimes you will see a figure standing over you and sometimes it will attack you.

I dont know about attacking you, but I have seen a figure right next to me while in SP, I WAS laying on my side, and I did feel like it was trying to take the pillow I had between my legs, and I was holding on to it tight, thats all I could do since I couldnt move.

Another time, right when I felt I was just about to fall asleep, I was interrupted by the sound of my bed hitting the floor, and feeling like I slid down a little, I immediately sat up, and freaked out, all my lights where on, but THAT was VERY vivid

This is way I don't try to LD or astral project. I hate the "old hag" factor. Thats what scares me if I even try to do it. I'm even scared of the things in my room at night and burglers and such let alone old hags and such. I also heard someone that astral projection, and such like that is witch craft. But I will never try LD as long as that old hag exists. Its just too scarey for me. I would wimp out.

Originally Posted by pepsibluefan

This is way I don't try to LD or astral project. I hate the "old hag" factor. Thats what scares me if I even try to do it. I'm even scared of the things in my room at night and burglers and such let alone old hags and such. I also heard someone that astral projection, and such like that is witch craft. But I will never try LD as long as that old hag exists. Its just too scarey for me. I would wimp out.

I can tell you that by not trying it you are really missing out on a lot! Besides, this "old hag" thing I think would probably just occur in sleep paralysis. There are other induction techniques that do not involve sleep paralysis and wouldn't bring on the "old hag". Besides, if you can control your dreams, you can just tell scary things to go away. Or, if you are more like me, you could set them on fire or have a freight train run them over.

I get SP every now and then, but I've never felt any kind of presence or anything pushing on my chest. I just feel ... well ... paralyzed--which is still very frightening by itself.

This may sound funny, but here's how I learned to overcome the fear: knowing that SP is the gateway to lucid dreaming, when I feel that buzzing come on I just think how cool it will be to have some LD sex. That kills the fear right away and gets me excited for some "action."

Remember: sexual desire is stronger than fear. At least in my case

Originally Posted by Will

Iwhen I feel that buzzing come on I just think how cool it will be to have some LD sex. That kills the fear right away and gets me excited for some "action."

Remember: sexual desire is stronger than fear. At least in my case

LOL!! Sounds like a plan!

Wow Clairity, that must of been a scary experience

You got me wanting to go into SP and fac emy fears now. Thanks. I might be able to finaly lucid dream.