i dont want to sound silly, but just want to get a basis for your question.... |
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This thread is concerned only with people personal ways to justify the existance or non existance of God (I mean this only in the Judeo-Christian sense). Please post your thoughts on this topic but keep all off topic discussions to a seperate thread. thanks a lot |
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There are great truths and there are trivial truths. The opposite of a trivial truth is obviously false. The opposite of a great truth is also true.
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i dont want to sound silly, but just want to get a basis for your question.... |
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"I was looking back to see if you were looking back at me to see me looking back at you".
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I just want to hear peoples ideas/views, for my own interest/education. |
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There are great truths and there are trivial truths. The opposite of a trivial truth is obviously false. The opposite of a great truth is also true.
-Bohr
I don't have any solid proof either way - and I don't think there is any (solid proof). Else, we wouldn't be having this discussion |
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I know that God does exist the world could not exist without a force behind it or some reasoning. Even if the world was infinit which I beleve it is there still has to be some incredibly complex force behind it. So scientificaly god does exist in some way or another. |
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i dont nessisarily belive in a god ...but a supream being |
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you can't do that on the internet!.... wait yes you can do it again!
The natural order of the universe is chaos. Everything left to its natural order breaks down to its basic elements. Anything as complex as a human being or even as mundane as bacteria has to have a creative force behined it I think. I can't see how something like the diversity of life that exists on this earth can just happen spontainiously. That's proof enough for me. |
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First we have to understand what a "Judeo-Christian" sense of God actually is. Does that mean that the God they believe in is different from the one a Muslim believes in and different from the idea of Tao and so forth? Only if you confuse symbols with Reality. From an exoteric point of view every religion seems to be saying something different, but this is just an illusion. From the esoteric point of view they are all explaining the same experience, but in a different way! So what is God? "He" has been described as omnipresent, so by that description the better question would be "What is NOT God?" If God is everything always, there is nothing that is not God, including YOU right NOW! So the best question is "Who are YOU?" If you honestly seek to find the answer to this question, you will prove to yourself that God exists. Hey, what better time than right now, since that's all that exists? |
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Super profundo on the early eve of your day
Ramblings and tangents, by CT... |
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There are great truths and there are trivial truths. The opposite of a trivial truth is obviously false. The opposite of a great truth is also true.
-Bohr
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Hmm well I don't beleive that god exists. I believe what CT is saying - that basically, when you break it all down we're just complex formations of atoms that have learnt to think, and therefore think that we are more than the sum of our parts. I think that we just can't really come to terms with this, and we like to try and think we are more than the blink of an eye in the scale of the universe, and so we have to have some reason behind it all. |
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But it isn't thinking that defines the self, it is percieving. What percieves? Is it a part of our brain? It is impossible to test. So right here every conscious second we are stared in the face with a neccessary truth that noone can prove through science, our very existance as conscious beings. All of these things are so subjective that we can't look at them from an objective point of view. |
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Super profundo on the early eve of your day
To percieve you have to think. Let me explain. |
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But where did matter come from? How was it created? It is a scientific fact that Nothing cannot produce Something. So what produced matter?? |
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There are great truths and there are trivial truths. The opposite of a trivial truth is obviously false. The opposite of a great truth is also true.
-Bohr
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There is no proof for against the existence of God, it is an undecidable question in the system of human thought. I would recommend looking into the work of Kurt Godel a very famous logician who worked on the study of mathematical foundations in the middle part of the century. The theorem is also quite famous not often mentioned it is called Godel's Incompleteness Theorem. Basically it says that any system that is interesting enough to formulate its own logical consistency must also be inconsistent. That is there must exist some statement which can be both true and false at the same time. |
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