Thread: Religion

doesn't it frighten you that it has been translated at all, first of all from one language to another...[/b]

Frightening? Not at all. Intriguing? Absolutely. That's why I am compelled to study the original languages. The Bible has been translated by several who are experts - from EVERY field, including the agnostic/atheistic translators. Also... the idea that the original languages are somehow doctored by \"the church\" or believers for the sake of church elitism or some other rubbish is a MYTH (I know you didn't make such an assumption, Rabbit, but from my experience, it seems many people blindly believe nonsense like that because they have chips on their shoulders...)

inevitably losing some meaning in translation,...[/b]

I agree, but the truth is evident in any language.

on heaven and hell: heaven seems like a pretty boring place to me. and hell doesn't sound so fun either.[/b]

Only to those whose minds/imaginations are limited... Your mind, like all of ours' will still be blown.

if you want to do good deeds and love your fellow man, and you think that abiding by the rules of a religion will make you a better person,and more comfortable,happy if you want to say;[/b]

Religion does nothing for me. A relationship with God does.

for you who do believe in the bible, why did god create dinosaurs?[/b]

Why not?

...something else to contemplate,

i love babies by the way.[/b]

Me too. I believe no one is innocent....

beliefs allow the mind to stop functioning. a non-functioning mind is clinically dead. believe in nothing.[/b]

Without belief, YOU would not function. You use it every day.

Has anyone seen jamesarthur.net? its about how almost all religions are based around the magic mushroom Amanita Muscaria, or use it in some way. Its really interesting and he gives quite a persuasive argument although I dont agree with everything it is very convincing - well worth a read. His book 'Mushrooms and Mankind' is on the site for free although not the complete version.

So, this has gone from a discussion about religion in general to a discussion about who's the most right at interpreting stuff in the bible?
Again its all based on opinions. Futile attempts to make someone else agree with you over something as personal as religion is doomed to end up somewhat ugly.

Do as you please but perhaps it would be better to do it trough PM's or something because its going off-topic.

Originally posted by CT
So, this has gone from a discussion about religion in general to a discussion about who's the most right at interpreting stuff in the bible?
Again its all based on opinions. Futile attempts to make someone else agree with you over something as personal as religion is doomed to end up somewhat ugly.

Do as you please but perhaps it would be better to do it trough PM's or something because its going off-topic.

Thats understandable CT but Im sure that you would agree that religion is not just limited toward one main focuse of discussion. How can you capture the true insight of ones belief if you limit the opportunity to capture the big picture and understand WHY? And I don't see it really going off topic. Religious discussions are based enterily on the Bible.

Yeah well it has gone on for a few pages already and nothing has happened, thats what I meant. You and Evangel seem to enjoy discussing it, so I suggested perhaps the PM system would be better for that, or another thread, because not everybody can quote the bible and is interested in the opinions of the correct interpretation of it, thats what I meant.

[edit] actually you can hijack this thread since its not goin to be used for anything else anyway.

Originally posted by CT
Yeah well it has gone on for a few pages already and nothing has happened, thats what I meant. You and Evangel seem to enjoy discussing it, so I suggested perhaps the PM system would be better for that, or another thread, because not everybody can quote the bible and is interested in the opinions of the correct interpretation of it, thats what I meant.

[edit] actually you can hijack this thread since its not goin to be used for anything else anyway.

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Shadow:

I'm not sure how the NWT reads, but the following is an obvious reference to Jesus as the ALpha and the Omega:

Rev. 1

"1The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show his servants what must soon take place. He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John, 2who testifies to everything he saw--that is, the word of God and the testimony of Jesus Christ. 3Blessed is the one who reads the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear it and take to heart what is written in it, because the time is near.
4John,
To the seven churches in the province of Asia:
Grace and peace to you from him who is, and who was, and who is to come, and from the seven spirits[1] 5 before his throne, and from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth.
6To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood, and has made us to be a kingdom and priests to serve his God and Father--to him be glory and power for ever and ever! Amen.
7Look, he is coming with the clouds,
and every eye will see him,
even those who pierced him;
and all the peoples of the earth will mourn because of him. So shall it be! Amen.
8"I am the Alpha and the Omega," says the Lord God, "who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty."