Thread: What Politcal Ideology Are you?-Intelligent Debate time!

It is even more reason to oppose immigration, its a fact of life that racial tensions will always exist for all enternity. The only way to prevent such atrocities from ever happening again is to keep racial tensions as low as possible, and for those that are already here to integrate into society. One can argue points ad infinitum but racial tensions are always going to exist and there is nothing that can be done about it, all we can do is damage limitation by not nallowing immigration any further.

edit: actually i am completely native (great grandmother was a convert, making my gran and mother and eventually me jewish).

Originally Posted by Thatperson

It is even more reason to oppose immigration, its a fact of life that racial tensions will always exist for all enternity. The only way to prevent such atrocities from ever happening again is to keep racial tensions as low as possible, and for those that are already here to integrate into society. One can argue points ad infinitum but racial tensions are always going to exist and there is nothing that can be done about it, all we can do is damage limitation by not nallowing immigration any further

I do see your point, but all that does is delay the problem, not fix it. We as humans should be progressing, not going backwards. It should be our goal to create a society where racial tensions do exist, not where people hide behind their imaginary lines because they are afraid of confronting the problem. It does seem like it is hard to fix racial tensions, but we have already done alot to fix it as is. I mean just 150 years ago there was still slavery and there were mass riots and killing to oppose immigration. WE have come so far since then and as time goes on we will continue to progress, unless we do what you propose and stop immigration. Like I said, that is just a delay to the problem, not a solution. We can't remain a divided world forever, it is dangerous, especially as our power to kill keeps increasing.

why should it be our goal, why cant people just live in their native lands? every single racist incident that has ever happen in the UK need not have happened, immigration causes problems for the immigrants aswell you know. This artirficial world in where everyone loves each other will NEVER EVER EVER be a reality, maybe in a Lucid Dream but not in this world. and if that is the case then multi racial societies are just timebombs waiting to go over, as has been seen quite often, recently in London in august.

Why can't they live in their native lands? What if you were born on Uganda? The water quality was terrible, giving you diseases, you lived in poverty and could barely subsidy. You are constantly worrying because of violence or are scared that your children will be kidnapped and made into child soldiers. All of a sudden you somehow get a chance to immigrate to a much more peaceful and stable country, where you actually have more of an opportunity. That's why someone would not want to stay in their native land. It's easy for someone in a developed nation to say "why can't they just stay where they are" because developed nations Dont face the problems that undeveloped nations face. Put yourself in their shoes. And a society based on love isn't possible because people don't want it to be. People are too greedy, but it doesn't mean we should just give up. Better to fight for the right cause and fail than fight for the wrong cause and succeed.

those countries should develop themselves then. Just a thought, do you actually expect your way of thinking to go mainstream? Because at the moment, even the most liberal of immigrants would likely disagree with you because it would harm them as much as anyone else. Not many turkeys campaign for christmas but that is what it will be like, if you import the third world into europe, then europe will become a third world continent. Why should everyone live in the currently developed countries, why cant they live in their own countries and develop them into first world countries.

I'm not sure why you think all these people coming from savage societies are suddenly going to civilise the second they step off the boat, you know what those societies are like, is this the type of society you would want to live in?

Really? Are we still a society that thinks of third world countries as savage? Poverty does not equal savagery. People who immigrate from impoverished countries are not savage..at all. One of my best friends is from Uganda (which is why I keep using that example) and she is the nicest person you could ever meet. And most people do not oppose immigration altogether.

Yes there are lots of criminals but you can't say that people who come from there are savage.

just because someone is nice that does not justify mass immigration, i'm going to leave it there for now because we have no common ground for debate. I'm not sure what situation you are in but it appears that you haven't been exposed to the social effects of mass immigration or have considered the economic and logistical effects. Maybe one day you will come over to the nationalist viewpoint, because I basically agreed with you in the past and have considered every point of view, maybe you won't.

Yeah well we'll see. Anyways nice debate haha.