You wouldn't know if you were living there, though. It would be as if you never even existed. Why would you want that? |
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I am not attempting to say your translation is wrong and mine is right. I am simply trying to find a translation free of God's misleading connotations. I am glad you have found your own way to this. I have also found mine. I just wish I could live there, rather than merely catch glimpses. But I figure as long as I'm catching glimpses, I can share my process for the hope someone finds it beneficial. |
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Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.
You wouldn't know if you were living there, though. It would be as if you never even existed. Why would you want that? |
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Well now you've got me thinking you're trying to stuff my idea into your definition of God and failing to grasp it. |
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Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.
No, Greenhavoc |
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Bottom line being just because you associate primarily with space rather than objects, that doesn't make the objects go away. Just because I see my self from a position of Self that doesn't mean I'm not also my self, I simply no longer position my perspective on the world from the standpoint of my personality and judgments. My primary way of looking at reality is no longer how I think about reality. My primary way of looking at reality is equanimity, and the judgments become secondary to that. |
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Last edited by Omnis Dei; 07-05-2012 at 06:52 PM.
Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.
Our definitions are the same, I just feel more comfortable giving it a name. You didn't answer my question, either: You wouldn't know if you were living there, though. It would be as if you never even existed. Why would you want that? |
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The me with a position regarding your response is not the same me as the one aware of the me with the position on the response. That's where equanimity comes into it. Whenever I see anything my habitual response is to ask myself what I think about it. Primarily we attempt to figure out good from bad, what we like and dislike. And we apply this judgment to absolutely everything. The objects we are aware of are not limited to these judgments. Just because we think something is good or bad, that doesn't make it so. Having a position regarding everything is a mean to make proper decisions, but by limiting the world to your position on the world, you are limiting yourself. By allowing things to exist both as the judgments we have of them and as something apart from those judgments, we tap into the sense of a self beyond the identity, beyond the body. We sense space. |
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Who looks outside, dreams;
who looks inside, awakes.
- Carl Jung
Right and this doesn't only apply to what we believe is outside ourselves. Because we combine our awareness with our ego, our sense of identity is limited by what our ego thinks. So in other words if I think something is bad, such as a feeling of anxiety, then I assume everything that is me thinks this bad. In reality, only my ego is having his judgment, but not all of me. There is a piece of me which is not having this judgment. We can view everything from this place, including ourselves. |
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Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.
In that body it's all you. Whatever. |
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There is a profound benefit to giving yourself a little space from yourself. But it's one of those things you need to try, first, in order to understand why. |
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