Originally Posted by Abra
So anyway, let's discuss the sexiness that is moral error theory, which basically makes the claim that all positive moral claims are false.
According to moral error theory:
"Killing babies is morally permissible" is false.
"Eating animals is wrong" is false.
"Altruism is good" is false.
"Killing babies is not wrong" however is a negative moral claim, so it isn't necessarily false. It could be true or false.
One major objection to moral error theory is that this leads to contradictions.
According to moral error theory, "killing babies is morally permissible" is false. And "killing babies is wrong" is false. That would make the opposite claim true, i.e. "killing babies is not wrong" is true. This is linguistically equivalent to saying "killing babies is morally permissible" is true. But, fuck, we started out this argument by saying that very statement is false. This contradiction means moral error theory is shitty, right?
WRONG-O, turns out that objection is invalid.
"That which is not wrong is morally permissible" is a positive moral claim, so under moral error theory this statement would be false. That means "killing babies is not wrong" is not logically equivalent to saying "killing babies is morally permissible." So there is no contradiction, and moral error theory stands hard as a rock.
Discuss.
Well, if I look at reality I see what this philosophy is saying. It is saying basically that morals are not true inherently. Each person individually and society as a whole designates truth to morals. I would like to believe that there is some true objective morality that everybody should follow (and it should be my morality ) but the fact is that it seems morality is subjective. It seems that everybody decides what is right for them, and tries to impose that onto everyone else. So the fact is that morality is subjective, and thus not true in the philosophical sense.
If we get hung up on the words it leads to contradictions. That is why philosophy has to be grounded in direct experience of reality. That is why in reality there is no contradiction. Nobody is saying you should go kill babies. This is just a statement of reality... obviously some people feel that it is moral to kill babies.
A positive moral claim would be saying "X is good" is true. For something to be true, in the philosophical sense, it has to be objective and inherently real, like a law of nature like gravity or something, or the speed of light. But since morals are not objective, they are empty of substance, empty of any coherent definable agreed upon ultimate reality, morality is empty. No moral statement is objectively inherently true. There might be a situation where it is morally acceptable to kill a baby, like to save a hundred babies lives somehow.
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