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      why do we feel

      why do we feel actual pain in the heart area when we have hurt feelings / heart broken how does it cause this pain and why in that specific area just a thought dont know if it belongs in philosophy but didnt know which one to put it in
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      There are a lot of nerves around the heart/chest area. Plus, there's adrenaline, blood pressure, etc. that are affected by emotion.
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      yes so emotions can really affect our health ie stress etc. Emotions really are a powerful thing and trying to suppress them can also be damaging. We all need to learn to relax more or exercise can also help , were all little ticking time bombs off our emotions. You often hear of people of the older generations dying not long after their spouse had passed on ,people often saying it was of a broken heart seems it can be true.
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      When it comes to heart-pain due to loss (e.g. end of a relationship or death of a loved one), it's evolutionarily favourable. I believe these physiological reactions to loss, which encourage us to seclude ourselves for a period of mourning, are important for our survival. It allows us the time to come to terms with and accept our new reality, so we can transition into the appropriate changes in our behaviour the loss requires.

      As for other, less severe feelings (like feeling hurt when you're insulted) I imagine they serve a social function. They allow us to instinctively know how we stand among our peers, who are our friends and who are our enemies, based on how they make us feel.

      I can't begin to theorize why these feelings manifest the way they do, but I'm inclined to say that how feelings feel doesn't really matter so long as our reactions to them are the same.
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      I've never personally noticed feeling that kind of pain in the heart area. Even when the love/loss feeling is so bad it makes me physically hurt it isn't in the heart. It's more like the gut and the head.

      Maybe because of the heart metaphor you focus it there intentionally/subconsciously or something.
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      It's a mental thing, not a physical thing.
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      I have never felt pain in my chest due to being sad or anything like that. I have however, had my heart feel like it was pounding out of my chest due to nervousness. I think the pain from loss might be a psychological thing due to culture and the idea of the heart having feelings. I think the heart thing when it comes to nervousness or semi panic attacks are half mental and half physical. Physical because your heart does beat more quickly, but also half mental because your super focused on your heart beating.
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      Quote Originally Posted by TimeDragon97 View Post
      There are a lot of nerves around the heart/chest area. Plus, there's adrenaline, blood pressure, etc. that are affected by emotion.
      That is true. It isn't like a placebo effect
      I fill my heart with fire, with passion, passion for what makes me nostalgic. A unique perspective fuels my fire, makes me discover new passions, more nostalgia. I love it.

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      Quote Originally Posted by sleepysam View Post
      why do we feel actual pain in the heart area when we have hurt feelings / heart broken how does it cause this pain and why in that specific area just a thought dont know if it belongs in philosophy but didnt know which one to put it in
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      The heart has a brain

      Did You Know the Heart Has a Brain? And 40,000 neural connections?

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      Heartbreak is more than an old term; it is a true condition.

      When we speak from the heart, we may do just that.

      The brain may be simply a hard drive, or processor so to speak, to hold extra information or processes, while the heart thinks for us.

      But all I know for sure is that the feelings we have in our hearts are obvious, and intuition is most likely in my opinion directly led by our hearts.*

      Have a heart.*==================================EXCERPT FROM A WEBSITE:

      "Neuroscientists have recently discovered exciting new information about the heart that makes us realize it's far more complex than we'd ever imagined.

      Instead of simply pumping blood, it may actually direct and align many systems in the body so that they can function in harmony with one another.*

      These scientists have found that the heart has its own independent nervous system -- a complex system referred to as

      "the brain in the heart."

      There are at least forty thousand neurons (nerve cells) in the heart -- as many as are found in various subcortical centers of the brain.

      Here is the Youtube:

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      Also

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      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lpu...e_gdata_player

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      Here's some helpful info: This Is Your Brain on Heartbreak | Greater Good

      When you’re deep in the mire of heartbreak, chances are that you feel pain somewhere in your body—probably in your chest or stomach. Some people describe it as a dull ache, others as piercing, while still others experience it as a crushing sensation. The pain can last for a few seconds and then subside, or it can be chronic, hanging over your days and depleting you like just like the pain, say, of a back injury or a migraine.

      But how can we reconcile the sensation of our hearts breaking—when in fact they don’t, at least not literally—with biophysical reality? What actually happens in our bodies to create that sensation? The short answer is that no one knows. The long answer is that the pain might be caused by the simultaneous hormonal triggering of the sympathetic activation system (most commonly referred to as fight-or-flight stress that ramps up heart and lung action) and the parasympathetic activation system (known as the rest-and-digest response, which slows the heart down and is tied to the social-engagement system). In effect, then, it could be as if the heart’s accelerator and brakes are pushed simultaneously, and those conflicting actions create the sensation of heartbreak.

      While no one has yet studied what exactly goes on in the upper-body cavity during the moments of heartbreak that might account for the physical pain, the results of the aforementioned fMRI study of heartbroken individuals indicate that when the subjects looked at and discussed their rejecter, they trembled, cried, sighed, and got angry, and in their brains these emotions triggered activity in the same area associated with physical pain. Another study that explored the emotional-physical pain connection compared fMRI results on subjects who touched a hot probe with those who looked at a photo of an ex-partner and mentally relived that particular experience of rejection. The results confirmed that social rejection and physical pain are rooted in exactly the same regions of the brain. So when you say you’re “hurt” as a result of being rejected by someone close to you, you’re not just leaning on a metaphor. As far as your brain is concerned, the pain you feel is no different from a stab wound.
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      Original Poster

      Great link, thanx.

      A quarter of the way down this scientific artical it says this:

      ***

      Which brings us, of course, to the pain.

      Love hurts

      When you’re deep in the mire of heartbreak, chances are that you feel pain somewhere in your body—probably in your chest or stomach.

      Some people describe it as a

      dull ache, others as

      piercing[, while still others experience it as a

      crushing sensation.

      The pain can last for a few seconds and then subside,

      or

      it can be chronic, hanging over your days and depleting you like just like the pain, say, of a back injury or a migraine.

      ***

      But how can we reconcile the sensation of our hearts breaking—when in fact they don’t, at least not literally—with biophysical reality?

      What actually*happens*in our bodies to create that sensation?

      The short answer is that no one knows.

      The long answer is that the pain might be caused by the simultaneous hormonal triggering of the*sympathetic activation system*

      (most commonly referred to as fight-or-flight stress that ramps up heart and lung action)

      and theparasympathetic activation system

      (known as the rest-and-digest response, which slows the heart down and is tied to the social-engagement system).

      In effect, then, it could be as if the heart’s accelerator and brakes are pushed simultaneously, and those conflicting actions create the sensation of heartbreak.

      ***

      While no one has yet studied what exactly goes on in the upper-body cavity during the moments of heartbreak that might account for the physical pain, the results of the aforementioned fMRI study of heartbroken individuals indicate that when the subjects looked at and discussed their rejecter, they

      trembled,
      cried,
      sighed, and
      got angry,

      and in their brains these emotions triggered activity in the same area associated with physical pain.

      Another study that explored the emotional-physical pain connection compared fMRI results on subjects who touched a hot probe with those who looked at a photo of an ex-partner and mentally relived that particular experience of rejection.

      The results confirmed that social rejection and physical pain are rooted in exactly the same regions of the brain. So when you say you’re “hurt” as a result of being rejected by someone close to you,

      you’re not just leaning on a metaphor.

      As far as your brain is concerned, the pain you feel is no different from a stab wound .

      ***

      The rest of the article says it correlates with nicotine and cocaine addiction. Then proposes a remedy in a heatbreak PILL

      You quoted this and that's why I clicked and read the whole article (and the links inside the article as well).

      Again

      Thank you, Original Poster.
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      Quote Originally Posted by sleepysam View Post
      why do we feel actual pain in the heart area when we have hurt feelings / heart broken how does it cause this pain and why in that specific area just a thought dont know if it belongs in philosophy but didnt know which one to put it in
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      The cure for this terrible pain (and the cure for all worldly addictions) is to get totally addicted to wanting to be with the Eternal Beloved. The Eternal Beloved gives Eternal overwhelming satisfaction to all our senses, in every way. so chanting and daydreaming about serving the one you love is the gateway to going home while you still breathe

      Ancient Hindu’s used[b] Love addiction[/b} to get devotees teleported (spiritually transported) to the highest spiritual planes.

      Check-out this old Krisna Devotee Yearning like a Love-sick Fool,l to be with Radha.

      Join him in his entrancing chant. And let yourself ascend with him,

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      Quote Originally Posted by havago View Post
      the Eternal Beloved
      When you say that name, whom or what do you have in mind?
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      She's talking about me, duh

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      Quote Originally Posted by Jesus of Suburbia View Post
      When you say that name, (Eternal Belived) whom or what do you have in mind?
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      She's talking about me, duh
      Yes Original Poster

      Because, Jesus of Suburbia

      the EternalBeloved is your own personal Imagination

      "IT" IS SO CLOSE TO US. That we take it totally for granted. It is a livining being. It escorts us wherever we command it to take us.

      It is so close to us we think it is us. It is not us. It is our most pure devotee (our private, personal, obedient, loyal slave). Our imagination is the All Powerful, eternal beloved.

      As such it can become everyone you meet. Including our own OM (Original Poster).

      Sorry SleepySam

      This post is totally off topic. I apologize.
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