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      Originally posted by Paperdoll EP
      I believe in Christ. that's all I believe in. I've accepted Jesus as my Lord and Personal Saviour. when I die, I will go to heaven. that's what I believe. nothing else. if someone believes something different, I don't hate them. I don't dislike them.


      Reality check: What makes you think you're going to Heaven? You need to try understanding the bible a little more DARLING

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      *sigh* I was a member on another forum before coming here. All topics were allowed with the exception of Religion and Politics.

      I hope we don't have to do that here as well....

      Just remember the One and only Rule:http://dreamviews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=535
      you must be the change you wish to see in the world...
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      YOu're right I just don't want her to get dissapointed when her times up. Oh actually she wouldn't be I mean you can't have feelings if you're not conscious. You know what when I come back im going to cross reference some things in your bible Paperdoll just to explain to you why you're not going to Heaven. See ya

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      Ah cmmon..dont tell that girl shes not going to heaven. Thats just mean >_<. Im not going to give my opinion about wether heaven exists or not..but dont tell a person he/shes not going to heaven and is going to burn in hell, all good hearted, nice, honorable persons go to heaven, or get what they deserve, something good. Wether thats trough heaven or karma..or trough the laws of the cosmos..you get what you deserve, and to tell her she going to hell, thats mean.
      Shes not.Im leaving my own religious believe sout fo this right now.
      but you go to heaven/receive good thing whatever by being a good hearted person, helping out others, being nice for others, raditating positive energy, respecting others, respecting the planet..etc..not being living strictly by the laws of..god? And certainly by telling others their going to burn in hell.. , dont be a meanie
      "You, yourself, as much as anybody in the entire universe, deserve your love and affection."
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      Everyone be at peace.

      I would hate to lock this thread. But I will if it continues to degenerate.

      Please don't make me do this!
      you must be the change you wish to see in the world...
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      Originally posted by ShadowNightWing
      YOu're right I just don't want her to get dissapointed when her times up. Oh actually she wouldn't be I mean you can't have feelings if you're not conscious. You know what when I come back im going to cross reference some things in your bible Paperdoll just to explain to you why you're not going to Heaven. See ya
      John 3:16 For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that whosoever believeth in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life.


      Ignorant bliss is an oxymoron; but so is miserable truth.

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      Shadow I'm just going by what the bible says. no one here is angry at you nor does anyone here hate you. you have absolutely no reason to be so hateful. if I believed that only people that have a pet rabbit and eat alot of icecream are going to heaven does it matter? am I hurting you? no. all this hatred and constant anger towards everyone is getting you nowhere, not to mention you are just asking to get banned. I suggest you take a minute to calm down and think about it.


      Ignorant bliss is an oxymoron; but so is miserable truth.

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      Originally posted by Lucius
      Alright, this topic just sucks again( no offense O&#96;nus but), subconsiously everybody is bashing eachother again, screw this we cant talk about religion. We suck.

      I dont believe in anybody that bashes/disrespects eachother or aother religion, so there.
      I agree actually..

      My impulsiveness in creating this thread disgusts me.

      *Hangs head*

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      O'nus, impulsive or not, it was a good idea. To bad it degenerated.

      you must be the change you wish to see in the world...
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      Well, I'm very sorry if I have offended anyone. I was not trying to push my religion on anyone, or tell them that they were wrong, I was just trying to answer the question.

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      Originally posted by ShadowNightWing
      YOu're right I just don't want her to get dissapointed when her times up. Oh actually she wouldn't be I mean you can't have feelings if you're not conscious. You know what when I come back im going to cross reference some things in your bible Paperdoll just to explain to you why you're not going to Heaven. See ya
      Not to be argumentitive or such, I'm just curious about why you say this. Explanation?

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      Hey O'nus, it wasnt realy your fault, its just that you are a philosofer, and you know how to blend relgion with it. Most relious people can't talk about it without (subconsiously) bashing others. Its just a fact, I can't really either. So dont feel too bad.
      "You, yourself, as much as anybody in the entire universe, deserve your love and affection."
      ~Buddha

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      I don't bash people even subconsciously!!! er...how would I know? I mean I don't believe I do...


      Ignorant bliss is an oxymoron; but so is miserable truth.

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      lol, everybody does sometimes. You,me, everybody, its just a fact when you talk about religion. Or ethics/values I gues. Its inevitable sometimes.
      Though some people just are way worse then others lol (and your not,really)
      ah well, as long as it doesnt get too outta control this topic might last..I think..lol, or maybe not..
      "You, yourself, as much as anybody in the entire universe, deserve your love and affection."
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      well I feel...more of a..compassion..a deep friendly feeling toward people of a different religion. honestly.


      Ignorant bliss is an oxymoron; but so is miserable truth.

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      Well thats nice to hear ^_^ but with alot of people its diffirent, but some people flip out if somebody says "I don't believe in God", or "I believe in something else" , at some people I wanna yell "Be a little more open minded ok" or "some people have to learn that all (good hearted)relgions are right in the end" but I dont because some people are offended by that.

      I would also say "I dislike christians who hate gays" (well now I am) but I dont really do inside, because I respect their religion. Religion and values ar pretty touchy subjects I gues, sadly.
      "You, yourself, as much as anybody in the entire universe, deserve your love and affection."
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      why doesnt everyone just agree not to take offense if theyre going to talk about this, just dont take it personally. Everyones got a different opinion so dont take offense if it clashes with your point of view, thats just stupid.

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      goddamnit my posts keep getting deleted












      no pun intended...

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      Yes!!!! Maybe this thread has turned around!

      Way to go guys. Now, can we move on...

      I stand by my original statement. I will not support a religion that forces anyone to be supressed or degraded.

      It's all about love and compassion. This, in my opinion, should be the core of any belief. Even atheism.
      you must be the change you wish to see in the world...
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      Yes Seeker, I agree.

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      I had far to much to write so I created an entirely New thread for this topic. Please take special notice of Do All Good People go to Heaven? There you will find my response, seperate from this thread as to not contravene on Onus' thread.

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      Religion is a result of man creating God in his image. I think the Creator said it best with "I AM That I AM".

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      Originally posted by Maystar
      don't do religion.
      i would rather follow my own path, however am always open minded to suggestions and views etc.

      it's best to remain flucid, like water, so you never find yourself stuck.

      have a very set opinion and you may find yourself open to attack and lose precious time fighting a battle you need not to.

      o/

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      Well, I have done some research and I find Buddhism to be the religion that makes most sense (I am not a Buddhist yet though). Buddhism does'nt set up any strict boundaries apart from not killing anyone or stealing and that sort of basic things. It is also one of the few religions that does'nt in one way or the other encourage violence. Although I do encourage christian people who are calm and peaceful, but the Bible has been changed so much throughout the history by greed for power and wealth, that I would'nt call it a holy book anymore.
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      "The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance - it is the illusion of knowledge."
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      I hear that kind of argument about the Bible all the time...

      ...yet the original Hebrew and Greek manuscripts still exist. I am curious as to what part of the Bible has been "changed throughout history"...?
      "By day the LORD directs his love, at night his song is with me; a prayer to the God of my life."
      Psalm 42:8

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