Thread: Why Are We P*ssies Now A Days

It's called technology. Caveman Ogg makes Bendy-Stick-That-Throws-Other-Sticks, thus enabling him to kill opposing cavemen, more efficiently, at a distance, and thus with less danger to himself, and thus a higher chance of victory. Caveman Grogg copies Ogg's design. Caveman Ogg, seeing that the tables have been turned, improves his design so thatr he has the advantage.

Et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. And Lo! Behold! Modern Times, where men weild the Fearsom Weapons that are Guns, and kill each other from an Unassailable Distance.

So, what about solving our problems, man-to-man? Well, fine. You go do that. But, if the other guy has a gun, or the police catch you, you're fucked, basically.

Have you got so many enemies you want to get rid of?
Fighting with a sword is out of date, try to destroy them with your brain and skills. More exciting, no bloodshed and no responsibility before the court of justice. We are not medieval warriors anymore.

Have you often been to medival times? How was it?

If your goal is to kill people, like in wars, you want to have better ways of killing people then your enemies do, so you invent lame-ass weapons.

And I guess we are pussies, but there have been pussies in medival times to, and sometimes it is good to be a pussy. You don't want to fight for your asshole-landlord like in the middle ages, and you don't Want to fight for you facist government like in certain wars at the moment.

Apparently it wasn't actually that violent in the Middle Ages, we're just led to believe it was through films. Hardly anyone would die in battles, they just surrender when they'd had enough. So my dad says, he's reading a book about it at the moment.

Its easier to kill someone if you dont have to see them.

The goal in a war is to win the war, not to impress people who think it's cool to fight with sticks. It would have been ridiculous of Bush to say, "Several ally governments and our own CIA, Senate, and past administration have reported that the Hussein regime, a proven terrorist government and severe enemy of the United States and our allies, has weapons of mass destruction, as further illustrated by the fact that many of their past known WMD's have been unaccounted for in violation of our 1991 ceasefire resolution. We are going to take down this government and make Iraq a free country for the rest of history. Because it is in the best interest of the long term safety of civilization, we will have to be victorious in handling the horrific nightmare. That is, if we can look good by winning this struggle with rocks and clubs."

There are higher priorities.

The way I see it..

Earth is overpopulated... contemporary technology allows for mass murder... so go ahead and kill some of us off. Ohh.. the humanists will not like this perspective but we must make some sacrifices or some modifications to our consisten culture if we are to continue to exist as a race of beings.

Of course the personalisation is come into question: "What if you were part of that mass of people?" That is fine - I said we all must make sacrifices, not everyone else but myself. I encourage you all to enjoy life. However, when you take a look at the world, do not be surprised if you become disappointed with our methods.

As for medieval times, there were most likely just as many murders per capita then as there is now. However, the quantity of murders per incident is probably the significant difference between our times. Let us not forget about the great Charlemagne empire as his brutal crusades or the Goths movements.

I notice many people find that the "old ways" held much more honour than now-a-days. Consdier why this is. Perhaps you are recognizing the depersonalisation of contemporary war. We now just drop bombs and attack targets. Vis-a-vis, medieval armies may have representative wars between their strongest soldiers as a representative outcome of the war. In this incident the fight is held with great honour because you are recognized by both armies and the leaders. A collective effervesence is much more evident with more private wars because of their personal wars.

Perhaps our modern soldiers now only feel like tools and weapons. It seems to me that many soldiers hate what they are being told to do but continue to do so... to relate to you young ones, consider the video game Metal Gear Solid and Snake's objections to abiding to his colonel's orders. Why is this..?

Anyways, hope I have been enlightening.

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Originally Posted by O

The way I see it..

Earth is overpopulated... contemporary technology allows for mass murder... so go ahead and kill some of us off. Ohh.. the humanists will not like this perspective but we must make some sacrifices or some modifications to our consisten culture if we are to continue to exist as a race of beings.

Of course the personalisation is come into question: "What if you were part of that mass of people?" That is fine - I said we all must make sacrifices, not everyone else but myself. I encourage you all to enjoy life. However, when you take a look at the world, do not be surprised if you become disappointed with our methods.

As for medieval times, there were most likely just as many murders per capita then as there is now. However, the quantity of murders per incident is probably the significant difference between our times. Let us not forget about the great Charlemagne empire as his brutal crusades or the Goths movements.

I notice many people find that the "old ways" held much more honour than now-a-days. Consdier why this is. Perhaps you are recognizing the depersonalisation of contemporary war. We now just drop bombs and attack targets. Vis-a-vis, medieval armies may have representative wars between their strongest soldiers as a representative outcome of the war. In this incident the fight is held with great honour because you are recognized by both armies and the leaders. A collective effervesence is much more evident with more private wars because of their personal wars.

Perhaps our modern soldiers now only feel like tools and weapons. It seems to me that many soldiers hate what they are being told to do but continue to do so... to relate to you young ones, consider the video game Metal Gear Solid and Snake's objections to abiding to his colonel's orders. Why is this..?

Anyways, hope I have been enlightening.

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I agree

We are pussies...if I was in a war I'd use a fucking sword and my teeth...and they'd call me Rambo aka Rambo...that would be badass.

Originally Posted by ;321225

We are pussies...if I was in a war I'd use a fucking sword and my teeth...[/b]

That might be worth something if your are fighting Holland. But don't bother bringing a sword to a carpet bomb fight, even if you can throw your sword really high with great accuracy.

There is just so much honor in gathering all the men of the town to go and fight to the death, man to man, sword to sword, that i dont really think fighting with guns has as much honor. Things would be taken care of much more efficently and faster the old ways...and yes useing a sword would be the shit

Originally Posted by dropout14

There is just so much honor in gathering all the men of the town to go and fight to the death, man to man, sword to sword, that i dont really think fighting with guns has as much honor. Things would be taken care of much more efficently and faster the old ways...and yes useing a sword would be the shit
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Being carpet bombed while holding a sword is just hilarious. I got some great laughs watching the Taliban holding rifles on their way to a high tech war. It was hysterical. If they had been carrying just swords, it would have been even funnier.

Fighting with swords seems so unreal to me - I can't even imagine how thousands of men just run into each other and cut people's heads off etc. Seems much more brutal to me But sure, an atomic bomb would be pretty brutal as well.
War just sucks no matter which way you (physically) fight it.

Originally Posted by dropout14

There is just so much honor in gathering all the men of the town to go and fight to the death, man to man, sword to sword, that i dont really think fighting with guns has as much honor. Things would be taken care of much more efficently and faster the old ways...and yes useing a sword would be the shit
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Honor is a human concept, a set of "codes", created to ensure patterns of predictable behaviour.

And as far as the use of a sword goes? About a year ago, a guy in NZ, where I live, had a similar sort of view as you. So, he got a samurai sword, and started attacking people. It culminated in him killing one woman, and cutting of a limb of another.

The essence of what I'm saying: over the millenia, millions... nay, likely BILLIONS, of people have died as a result of attitudes such as yours, dropout - the idea that we should solve things with violence, whether guns or swords, honour or no honor.. Read the Old Testament for numerous examples. "They insulted us, so let's go into their city, kill all the men, women, children and infants, and sacrifice their cattle to the Lord."

You guys make me sound like i just want to go out in the town and kill people....are you crazy? haha, i mean that is not my point at all

Originally Posted by dropout14

You guys make me sound like i just want to go out in the town and kill people....are you crazy? haha, i mean that is not my point at all
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Well, what's your point, then? I mean, tell me if I got it wrong, but the main gist of that post seemed to be "Solve stuff with ("honourable") violence. Use swords instead of guns when you solve stuff with violence".

Originally Posted by The

Well, what's your point, then? I mean, tell me if I got it wrong, but the main gist of that post seemed to be "Solve stuff with ("honourable") violence. Use swords instead of guns when you solve stuff with violence".
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Whats the difference in me saying we all should use guns in war? its the same thing, you would say " you want to go and kill people in the street with your gun.

Im talking about actual war not just going out and killing someone for fun.there is a big difference

I guess i could just say that technology sucks in some ways

Originally Posted by dropout14

I guess i could just say that technology sucks in some ways
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With a gun: You shoot somebody. They die what usually a slow, painful death.
With a sword: You cut somebody or stab them. They die what is usually a slow, painful death.

Where the F%^& does "honour" come into it?!!! Both are f$&%ing horrible!

Originally Posted by The

With a gun: You shoot somebody. They die what usually a slow, painful death.
With a sword: You cut somebody or stab them. They die what is usually a slow, painful death.

Where the F%^& does "honour" come into it?!!! Both are f$&%ing horrible!
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Dude watch bravehart, when you see hundreds of ppl running at eachother knowing a shit load of them are going to die just so their family can go on is honor.

And in both cases you said you would die slow, thats not always true for either of them

Movies? MOVIES?

Well. Tell you what.

Let's say you've taken part in the roman wars of conquest, and you've just fought a battle to take a small village in Gaul. During the battle, somebody's disemboweled you with a sword. So, you're lying on a battlefield, with hundreds of groaning and dying mean and rotting corpses all around you. Your fellow legionaires are in the village, raping the womenfolk and drinking the mead. Your intestines hang out from your stomach, you're in agonising pain, and you're loosing consciousness.

Do you feel very honourable?

No, you don't.

War is not honourable. Guns or swords, it doesn't matter. War is horrific, violent, and in NO way glorious or honourable.

Jesus Tapdancing Christ. Sometimes I think movies brainwash people.

Originally Posted by dropout14

Dude watch bravehart, when you see hundreds of ppl running at eachother knowing a shit load of them are going to die just so their family can go on is honor.
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Hollywood really doesn't give a fuck about history. Great basis for your debates do you have, looking at hollywood crappy 1032 million dollar productions.

I mean, 50cents movie allso is 100% true, right? And so is the matrix!11111

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War sucks, period.

As a response to your GREAT HISTORICAL KNOWLEDGES (braveheart). I will say that in Rome: total war quite often soldiers run pissing their pants.

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I don't know, we need to fight wars and look cool doing it?

I'd like to think that the time will come when we will not fight wars at all.

But until that time comes, I guess we will continue. In a couple of years, my son will be signing up with selective service. If the time ever comes that the draft is reinstated and they draft him to go fight for oil or democracy, I want him to have the best technology possible.

The honor is to serve, not in how bloodily or savagely you can kill or die.