What is time? Try to be philosophical about it.
I will post my theory later. A bit busy right now.
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What is time? Try to be philosophical about it.
I will post my theory later. A bit busy right now.
A useful concept. It refers to a relationship between events: before, after or simultaneously. And it seems this relation can be quantified... an event can occur a longer or shorter time before another. I think without the events in it, time has no meaning. Now, if you say gravity is the consequence of the bending of time (and space)... things get a bit strange.
Time is a dimension, the 4th dimension to be precise. Our world is (known) Universe (I say known because we cannot be %100 certain the same laws apply here as they do at some other point in the universe) into 4 dimensions. There are 3 space dimensions, which we see and experience, and 1 time dimension. Together these form the Space-Time Continuum.
"Most people think time is like a river, that flows swift and sure in one direction. But I have seen the face of time, and I can tell you...they are wrong. Time is an ocean in a storm."
- Prince of persia =P
If you look into quantum mechanics isn't time caused by the universe expanding? And when the universe begins to contract apparrently time will flow backwards.
I believe time is like a lake, yet we are told and taught to think of it as a river, or perhaps a timeline, if you will. Everything occurs at once again and again. Deja Vu, is one of the reasons people are questioning the river theory
~R~
My guess is that its either one of three things. (1) The rate at which consciousness is perceiving matter, (2) the rate at which matter is moving, (3) incomprehensible for humans and impossible to define with words.
Thats just my guess based of contemplation, im no scientist.
I think Time is primarily a practical concept, i mean, 500 years ago, it was more defined as a cyclic principle, rather than a linear one. People didn't give a fuck if it was monday or friday, but they were more concerned if it was winter or spring because that would mean it's time for harvest, etc.
Time is such a thing that can be wasted witout resentment. There's no other application of time.
Well, I'm no scientist or by any means qualified to give any kind of authoritative opinion on this but I have read a fair few science-for-non-scientist type books about quantum theory etc. and the general consensus seems to be that time is far more like exo-byte's 4th dimension than a river.
Personally, though, I am both baffled and fascinated by it.
I think for us little humans it's probably something better understood through direct experience than through theoretical knowledge because it seems to stretch beyond the bounds of standard logic.
And I don't think that necessarily means we can only ever xperience it in a one-way flow.
For instance, time seems to flow very differently in dreams than it does in the waking world.
I also think that its something we should never give up trying to understand because I'm pretty sure this question could help us to penetrate some pretty deep mysteries about reality.
What is Time... 'The Eternal Now'
i agree with imagionf...
time is an abstract term made up by us humans to define "the rate at which matter is moving"...
I dont know if it me but this forum appear to be getting dumber.
Well time is not a fourth dimension because if you knew something about Einstein then your see that he used 3:1 signature that is totally different to 4 signature or hamiliton mathematics.Quote:
Time is a dimension, the 4th dimension to be precise. Our world is (known) Universe (I say known because we cannot be %100 certain the same laws apply here as they do at some other point in the universe) into 4 dimensions. There are 3 space dimensions, which we see and experience, and 1 time dimension. Together these form the Space-Time Continuum.[/b]
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If you look into quantum mechanics isn't time caused by the universe expanding? And when the universe begins to contract apparrently time will flow backwards.[/b]
No again, not being a idiot that why people question their assumption not magick.Quote:
Deja Vu, is one of the reasons people are questioning the river theory[/b]
1. wrong 2. nice try but wrong, try looking up relativity in google 3. well if you got a IQ above 99 then with a little attention it not that hard to understand.Quote:
My guess is that its either one of three things. (1) The rate at which consciousness is perceiving matter, (2) the rate at which matter is moving, (3) incomprehensible for humans and impossible to define with words.
Thats just my guess based of contemplation, im no scientist.[/b]
Wrong again EgyptianQuote:
I think Time is primarily a practical concept, i mean, 500 years ago, it was more defined as a cyclic principle, rather than a linear one. People didn't give a fuck if it was monday or friday, but they were more concerned if it was winter or spring because that would mean it's time for harvest, etc.[/b]
No it doesnt and time is standard logic.Quote:
I think for us little humans it's probably something better understood through direct experience than through theoretical knowledge because it seems to stretch beyond the bounds of standard logic.[/b]
Your perception of time changes in dreams because your not coding anything in your memory it like being drunk.Quote:
And I don't think that necessarily means we can only ever xperience it in a one-way flow.
For instance, time seems to flow very differently in dreams than it does in the waking world.[/b]
Time has been formulated and understood properly for 80 years.Quote:
I also think that its something we should never give up trying to understand because I'm pretty sure this question could help us to penetrate some pretty deep mysteries about reality.[/b]
Well all time is or the arrow of time is the fact that entrophy is increasing. See time is perception it would be impossible to imagine time going backward because entrophy is stoping us. Well saying that when applied to quantum mechanicanics something strange happen. Well saying that http://www.sidis.net/ANIMContents.htm
if you really what to understand what time is just read the free online book plus it written by William Sidis the smartest person ever where he even predict dark matter 80 years before being discovered.
SolSkye all you did is still other people work gallieo graph know work on fourth dimensional physics and used it too explain deja vu wait ago to rip off a theory to describe magic or crap. Yes the big bounce theory does not fit with this universe if you believe in big bang (i believe in steady state or we just are theory) then the heat of death is more likely because expansion of universe is speeding up.
Time is an observation.
As the observation changes so does our perception of time.
~That is in relevance to us.
:hrm: Hmmm. You tell me.Quote:
I dont know if it me but this forum appear to be getting dumber. [/b]
becomingagodo, frankly you shouldn't be so sure. Time is still only theoretical, just like the universe. We don't know everything about out universe, and we don't know everything about time. Everything we "know" is theoretical.
As for your quote arguing me, the 4 fold or 3:1 theories don't change anything. Its still a 4th dimension, wether its combined or seperate. But thats not even the point, your claiming to have ulitmate knowledge on the topic when even the world's greatest thinkers can't figure it out.
I also don't see anyone claiming "Magicks," I see examples, metaphors and references. When someone is in a bad mood, makes a bad first impression and I tell a person "Dont judge a book by its cover" do you think Im talking about a book?
So, I'd like to call up this quote:
Before you say that again, do some thinking yourself.Quote:
I dont know if it me but this forum appear to be getting dumber.[/b]
Time is a commodity which has unknown future value, cannot be reserved, preserved or redeemed at any price.
All value is ultimately translates into time.
I find the '4th dimension' a really bad name for 'time'. Not like that 4th dimension is equal to 1 of the 3 dimensions. And ok, fast the time dimensions it is useful to tell how other (hypothetical) dimensions relate, but I think the first 3 dimensions should be called as one. (like, matter)
Yes but their our thing that can be tested and ruled out.Quote:
becomingagodo, frankly you shouldn't be so sure. Time is still only theoretical, just like the universe. We don't know everything about out universe, and we don't know everything about time. Everything we "know" is theoretical.[/b]
Well as neuro explain they our seperateQuote:
As for your quote arguing me, the 4 fold or 3:1 theories don't change anything. Its still a 4th dimension, wether its combined or seperate. But thats not even the point, your claiming to have ulitmate knowledge on the topic when even the world's greatest thinkers can't figure it out.[/b]
In my eyes deja vu is magick and SolSkye claimed deja vu is true. Thanks for that crappy quote i got another one for youQuote:
I also don't see anyone claiming "Magicks," I see examples, metaphors and references. When someone is in a bad mood, makes a bad first impression and I tell a person "Dont judge a book by its cover" do you think Im talking about a book? [/b]
Much learning does not teach understanding.
Heraclitus
I hope you can see now.
So, are you saying you've never experianced Deja Vu and don't believe in it, or don't believe it can be scientifically explained? I dont see it being said as Magick either, I see it being said as a Magicks either. All that DDK said was:
All she said was that people are questioning one theory because of Deja Vu, I dont see Magicks being implied by her statement. Maybe ask her for clarification before you start jumping to conclusions.Quote:
I believe time is like a lake, yet we are told and taught to think of it as a river, or perhaps a timeline, if you will. Everything occurs at once again and again. Deja Vu, is one of the reasons people are questioning the river theory
~R~[/b]
That still doesn't change the fact that its considered a dimension, it just isnt a physical one that we navigate like the 3 dimensions of Space.Quote:
Well as neuro explain they our seperate[/b]
And an intellectual quote doesn't make you any smarter than anyone on the board, esspecially unrelated to what I said. Anyone can pull out a quote. I said think before you post. Your posting bad arguments and trying to pass "facts" that have not been proven as of yet.Quote:
Much learning does not teach understanding.
Heraclitus
I hope you can see now.[/b]
Try to be philosophical about it.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE("PJ")</div>Nice!Quote:
Time is a commodity which has unknown future value, cannot be reserved, preserved or redeemed at any price.
All value is ultimately translates into time.[/b]
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Time is an observation.
As the observation changes so does our perception of time.
~That is in relevance to us.[/b]
It is hard to keep something complex simple. But rather than trying to be a Nobel prize quoter, it can be done.
You can say that about any scientific process. Note that they all change with more information. So it does not mean it is fact.Quote:
Yes but their our thing that can be tested and ruled out.[/b]
Time itself can dilate. Doesn't that give rise to many questions?
You're an idiot... I didn't steal anyones work. Before you state such slanderous things why not try communicating with people first? I thought about that theory by myself. If other information came from outside sources it was unbeknownst to me. In no way do I think my theory is gold, it's just what I feel on a daily basis. If you don't agree with what I wrote than please explain your reasoning to the contrary, rather than simply say your beliefs lie elsewhere. Doing that, is more absurd than anyones attempt at definition of time. If you can't explain yourself, I suggest You take your negative bile elsewhere...
Time is money.
That reminds me... Women = Evil
How?
People always say, 'Women are Time and Money' (Women= Time x Money)
and
We all know, 'Time is Money' (Women=Money x Money)
and
Some people say, 'Money is the root of all evil' (Women=Money˛) (Money˛=evil)
Therefore,
Women = Evil
Brilliant! Five stars!