Visualizing Higher Dimension

Now this seems like a good time to start with higher dimension, first of read this to know how to visualize them.
http://www.ncsu.edu/felder-public/ke...s/4dplots.html
This will explained pretty much how to treat higher dimensions, also if you want read the other article on http://www.ncsu.edu/felder-public/kenny/home.html they give a good layman description about quantum mechanics.

Well practicing visulizing higher dimension everyday since i read that has been really strange. As a child it seems very complex but it not it just practice. Well anyway if you have read that and have exprimented with that we can discuss philosophy implication of it, also it you havent read it dont post it not that hard and if you not that lazy then you could create a new thread called higher dimension for lazy idiots.

P.S. I will post tommorow if you have read the above everything will be clear and interesting. Seriously i mean it read the top then post here. I got the strange feeling know one will do this and it will become a dead topic, lazy people ):

The way you type, combined with your sudden defensive nature, kind of makes me think you haven't entirely read it yourself. If you have, you don't fully understand it at all.

I could be way off there, but that thought just kind of occured to me.

(I've come across this page during my research before, and it really didn't appeal to me)

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The way you type, combined with your sudden defensive nature, kind of makes me think you haven't entirely read it yourself. If you have, you don't fully understand it at all.

I could be way off there, but that thought just kind of occured to me.

(I've come across this page during my research before, and it really didn't appeal to me)[/b]

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That would be so ironic however i have read it.

Now if you have read the flatlander bit then you would notice a strange thing, well it is that it really simple to put ballon into a three dimensional object. This is weird the anwser is so obvious that they have to go on to of each other, but then what about four dimension object like the hypersphere now should the anwser to where they go be easy. Well if you think about it yes it should, but this seem neer impossible to us however a four dimensional creature probley looking at us laughing now.
Is it possible to imagine a fourth dimensional object in four dimensional if your three dimensional? Well i guess you can because couldnt you theoritically squash a human into a flatlander and then wouldnt he keep the thing that makes thinks in 3d. This is a strange problem which kept me up all night see because the anwser is so easy where the flatlander 2d slices goes wouldnt it be so easy where the 3d slices go.

Well now if you could see a four dimensional object in four dimensions would you be human anymore. I think no as in the story the flatlander could suddenly see in three dimension, wouldnt this make him so superior to the other flatlander that he cant be called a flatlander anymore.

Imagining the 10th Dimension

The link above is possibly the best thing I have ever seen about dimensions!
It is easy to understand and very entertaining, please take a look!

Well, one way of thinking about 4d...

every side of a 4d whole object is made of a 3d object
shadows in 4d are cast in 3d
you can see every side of a 3d object at once in 4d

there was more... but if you look at those statements and replace 4d with 3d, and 3d with 2d - It works. You get the same result using 2d and 1d as well.

I found Wikipedia's articles on the fourth dimension (or, at least, this interpretation of the fourth dimension) very useful - I was able to visualize four dimensions after reading only them, though it took a few days of thinking about it before sleeping until it fully clicked.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypercube
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesseract

I have given up on higher dimensions I find the limits of the human mind to sad to dwell on.

I wonder. Maybe on LSD, one could Visualize Higher Dimensions.

Point being: Wouldn't it just be a bunch of hippy shit if you think it over sober? And really, Can people really visualize more then '3' detentions? Our mind isn't build for that, and I can understand why, it doesn't has any use when hunting a reindeer.

All we can do is draw some lines, like how kids draw some lines that should look like a car, yet it totally isn't, but we all do sort of understand it's a car.

On acid, Ive been seemingly teleported astrally to a control room where these beings were maintaining the balance of all things in our universe. Basically, controlling everything, even chance in order to make sure things didn't become too one-sided. They knew I wasn't supposed to be there and signaled and alarm and attempted to subdue me with some energy beam thingy, and each time I got sent to another lower realm until I eventually got zapped back to my body. Now, that was cool!

Whether it was real or not...I have no idea

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Originally Posted by SolSkye

On acid, Ive been seemingly teleported astrally to a control room where these beings were maintaining the balance of all things in our universe. Basically, controlling everything, even chance in order to make sure things didn't become too one-sided. They knew I wasn't supposed to be there and signaled and alarm and attempted to subdue me with some energy beam thingy, and each time I got sent to another lower realm until I eventually got zapped back to my body. Now, that was cool!

Whether it was real or not...I have no idea
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Pretty cool! But do you really need to wonder or it was real? :)

At best, it might be a suiting metaphor for how stuff works, but to be honest... It seems unlikely :)

Well on acid I've seen everything broken down to its simplist form, countless times. Either, a 1, or a 0... a + , or -. The idea of this universe always revolves around this theme. So whether or not it was real, while unlikely, isn't impossible. As such, I'll keep an open mind about it.

We can't even confirm this reality we are in is real or not so, who's to say many other realities don't exist outside this one just waiting for those receptive to it? All circumstances surrounding me getting there aside, it felt as real as me sitting here typing to you and it's not completely an absurd idea. At the time, I was thinking about- what if someone were to gain too much power and cause an imbalance in the yin and yang of the universe and cause it be all ying, or all yang? Wouldn't that tear the very fabric of the essence of existence? Then suddenly I found myself projected amongst beings whose sole purpose was planting seeds of thought, or change in other beings minds in order to perpetuate the balance. The control room, of control rooms, of sorts.

Have you ever heard about the DMT reports of people. People from all walks of life were given the same chemical which occurs naturally in the brain and ended up sharing similar experiences. Basically, some were teleported to realms beyond this one that they described as being more real than reality. All of them surprisingly described, in detail, the same kind of beings and situations having never met prior to sharing the experience. This was a clinical study mind you. I would say, they can't all be experiencing the same false reality. As for myself, more likely than not, it was all in my head but you never know.

There's alot of mystery surrounding existence that we are just scratching the surface on. Keeping an open mind is the only way to stay ahead of the game. ;)

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Originally Posted by SolSkye

Well on acid I've seen everything broken down to its simplist form, countless times. Either, a 1, or a 0... a + , or -. The idea of this universe always revolves around this theme. So whether or not it was real, while unlikely, isn't impossible. As such, I'll keep an open mind about it.

We can't even confirm this reality we are in is real or not so, who's to say many other realities don't exist outside this one just waiting for those receptive to it? All circumstances surrounding me getting there aside, it felt as real as me sitting here typing to you and it's not completely an absurd idea. At the time, I was thinking about- what if someone were to gain too much power and cause an imbalance in the yin and yang of the universe and cause it be all ying, or all yang? Wouldn't that tear the very fabric of the essence of existence? Then suddenly I found myself projected amongst beings whose sole purpose was planting seeds of thought, or change in other beings minds in order to perpetuate the balance. The control room, of control rooms, of sorts.

Have you ever heard about the DMT reports of people. People from all walks of life were given the same chemical which occurs naturally in the brain and ended up sharing similar experiences. Basically, some were teleported to realms beyond this one that they described as being more real than reality. All of them surprisingly described, in detail, the same kind of beings and situations having never met prior to sharing the experience. This was a clinical study mind you. I would say, they can't all be experiencing the same false reality. As for myself, more likely than not, it was all in my head but you never know.

There's alot of mystery surrounding existence that we are just scratching the surface on. Keeping an open mind is the only way to stay ahead of the game. ;)
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Instresting stuff, the + and - stuff. I do think there is one single substance that builds all our reality, like a quark but smaller, and it also makes up light. Quantum mechanics, an area I do not fully understand, but it also is about anti-matter or something? Point being: The universe might be more + and minus, more yin and yang then we think.

And indeed, we never know what is real and what not. I am certain doing acid or something can make you feel you are in a more real then real. But according to the rules of this reality, the reality of homo sapiens, like of our culture and our universe and it's laws.. according to that reality your mind is just getting influenced by some chemicals. That in itself doesn't has to make it less true, but comparing to the reality we accept as the true one, it's reality.

So, we just chose to say 'this reality is "better" then another'. I have to say that for human life and such, it is better and more useful. Still, that doesn't make a reality if spiritual 'betterness' any less, unless you compare it to our reality.

Or, I am getting pretty vague. Point being: An other reality never is real if look at from the perspective of another one. That doesn't mean one of them is more right then the other.

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DTM. Wow, pretty weird that people saw the same stuff... That might have something to do with the 'shared intellect', the -extremely small but present- flow of 'thought' between people. I do think there might be something like a world-wide 'mind, but I am not saying it 100% true.

If however, there is another stable reality that all those people went to, that would be HUGE news. Since, what marks all realities but the one we are in, is that they are 'weak', always changing, not measurable, nothing is 'true' in them. Like in dreams. That might just be because we are used to a reality with a set of rules that doesn't change, but it does leave little, a 'reality' without set values, what really is left to be 'real' then?

Anyhow, 'real', for us, will aways be what is real in this reality we all know, even if it objectively isn't real then other realities.

I don't know how it all really works, but that is interesting about it.

If you look into the book, DMT:The Spirit Molecule, you can read an overview and some free chapters on the results of the study this doctor did at the University of New Mexico. Quite interesting. The goverment basically cut off his funding because his results were a bit too real for them to handle. More info about DMT


You should read the overview of the doctor's conclusion. Also, there are loads of threads in beyond dreaming if you look up DMT. Enjoy ;)

This 10 dimensions flash video is fantastic!

My undergrad dissertation involves N-D geometry, with up to 20 dimensions. However, Im pretty sure my definition of 'dimension' is quite loose.... I aint messing about with multiple parallel universes!