Well, I don't think that art students are more creative than other groups. All that can be said about them is that they can paint better, and are generally more emotional. This doesn't say anything about creativity at all.
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Have fun discussing your set of rules. In your small little box.
In the mean time, I may venture some of my own hypothesis about left/right brain thinking. Dabbling with consciousness and creativity while all the while I may consider that I can indeed put creative people in a percentile.
In my high school class of about 47 (yes, small, but we were the coolest kids you know!), there were about 7 lefties. As a group, the lefties were generally smarter. I'm not saying there weren't idiots, because, believe me there were. But I'd say the lefties were fairly smart.
Oh, and by the way, I'm one of the lefties :D, so maybe I'm a little biased but whatever!
This means that someone has concluded that 27% of left handed people are more creative.
You have been stuck there ever since.
Meanwhile discussion surrounding creativity has gone forward. Some talk of members own opinions and who they know, some insight on various scanning methods, how they would obtain these results have been mentioned.
We both agree that the wording can be misleading.
As more science uncovers and newer methods are obtained to gain more specific information about our brains unfolds, we can possibly begin to understand many of these vague attributes of our brains.
Will you still be stuck at 27%?
Absolutely it does not. "27% more creative" does not equal "27% of left handed people."Quote:
Just out of curiosity, what exactly is "27% more creative" supposed to mean?
Isn't it important to know what we're discussing before we can go deep into a subject? The problem is evidenced by the fact that you made an assumption about the meaning of the phrase that clearly is not what it is saying. By my estimate, you misread it by 38% making the whole thread 14% more confusing.
Please excuse me now. I must call my wife, who is 5% more lovely than she was the day we met.
You mean that out of 100 people that all of them would be 27% more creative as it was stated? Where as I was assuming that out of one hundred people that only 27% are more creative?
My deductive reasoning is lacking. But I do not know the percent. :?
statistically, the results hold their own. There is a massive amount of evidence that left handed people are more creative. A large portion of people in Hollywood, whether they be actors, producers, or writers are left handed. The right side of the brain, associated with spontaniety and creativity, also control the left side of the body. There is a corrolation btwn left handed people and creativity. its not just made up.
Nobody here said the corrolation was made up, at least I never did. I never challenged the notion that lefties are more creative, only that you can't measure creativity in percentages. In short, the corrolation is likely true, but "27% more creative" is not true, nor false, nor even an "opinion." It is simply meaningless.
I'm honestly sorry if this sticking point is making it difficult to discuss the basic premise of lefties vs. righties, but statistics must have meaning, damn it! I'm interested in the subject too, but if some study makes the claim the OP put forth, I will dismiss it without reading reading further, because it is excruciatingly clear that the author has no concept of statistical meaning.
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Yeah I dunno who came up with 27%? Did they really need to give us a number. They coulda just said, "Lefties more creative" and that would have been that.
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Please excuse me now. I must call my wife, who is 5% more lovely than she was the day we met.
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Alright people, I'm right handed, creative in many areas of... creativity - and this whole study about the lefty/rightie thing really doesn't bother me and shouldn't be an issue with anyone. If it's true, then hell - that makes me even BETTER than a lefty because I was able to overcome my 'handicap' and become as creative (if not more) than other lefty's. If it's false, well, then there's nothing to discuss.
Lefty's and Righties should spend more time doing this ----> :cheers:
And less time doing this ---> :lolxtreme:
(as you can see, it takes BOTH hands to do ;) )
I get skysaws point. The issue isnt whether or not lefties are more creative than righties, its how exactly one goes about quantifying creativity. As of now, "27% more creative" means nothing because we do not know how "creativity" is being measured, which debases the relevence of the figure "27%". Is it:
-Lefties have 27% more right hemispherical brain activity than righties?
-There are 27% more lefties than righties professions considered "creative"?
-etc.
"27% more creative" means nothing until you idenitify how creativity is being measured. Until then, 27% is just an empty statistic. A value can only be assigned to that which is measurable. So how exactly is creativity being measured?
Thanks for the acknowledgement, Ethen.
I hope that isn't the sound of the merry-go-round starting up again...:barf:
Oh, I see. I was thinking:Quote:
Good boob job = 10%, bad haircut = -5% ... net gain 5%
Left Boob=2.5%Giving wife breast exam = priceless :bigteeth:
Right Boob=2.5%
TOTAL RACK=5%
Damn it! Now look what you made me do - segregating the Left and Right again! :doh:
If you only did the left boob, it would be more artsy and probably off-center. The right boob would logically be placed perfectly centered. Or is it the other way around? Left brain, right side of body - right brain, left side of body..... :wtf:
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Actually, I think left-handed people may be better off on some fields.
I mean, leonardo da vinci was left handed. And wasn't einstein?
Wikipedia: Famous left-handed people:
I'm left handed, and I know I'm better than you. Cheerio!!:p I also have the same birthday as Issac Newton
Just a generation or two away most schools would not allow you to write with your left hand. Both of my parents were made to change to their right hand.
It carried over into other things as well. Because majority rules.
It to me is not that much of hard concept to swallow. It is just two different hemispheres that are efficient in their own way.
I would not get my panties in a bunch if someone claimed that right handers are 25% more mathematically inclined than left handed.
It can be measured to a degree, sure with all the variables it may be all but impossible to accurately measure but that doesn't make it meaningless.
It is an attempt at understanding.
Analyzing information.
If I wore panties, this claim would get them in a bunch as well, unless they defined their terms.
Would it make sense to you if a scientist published a study that showed that Cameron Diaz was 27% better looking than Harrison Ford? Or that chocolate was 10% more delicious than vanilla? Does it make more sense if they say "it was only an approximation?"
It's unbelieveable that you still think my objection has anything to do with whether lefties are more creative than righties. It doesn't.
So.... This is where it ends?
You, "they", me, think lefties are more creative.
We will just leave it speculative in nature because you can't comprehend an attempt at gauging an attribute?
Just because we can't see the truth, does not mean it is there.
How would you approach trying to analyze and understand the variations we think are there?