Revenge or Justice?

[Tavasion]

Which suits you more? is one better than the other in your opinion? are they the same?

[dodobird]

Neither. I believe punishment should only be used as a crime deterant, and to protect society, never as revenge or justice.

[Never]

Logically, protection of society is impossible to do correctly. Protection of oneself and one's own family comes first. Revenge is not always a bad thing. If some scumbag kills a man's daughter, he has a right and perhaps even a moral obligation to rid the earth of this trash, depending on how he thinks. Circumstances are always a question though.

[Neruo]

Rehabilitation.

[Alcarinquë]

If this has to do with more of a personal scale, then I'd say revenge. Yeah, if somebody screws me over, then I want to be able to get back at them. But if we're talking about a national law sort of thing then I'd say justice.

[The Cusp]

I say an eye for an eye, except on Tuesdays, when it's two for one.

[Half/Dreaming]

Revenge feels better because you are in charge of the punishment.

[Pyrofan1]

revenge, like i always say "Revenge is a dish best served cold, but who wants to eat a cold meal?"

[ccrinbama]

So, to toss out an idea. Mayhap, could one consider that justice is revenge on the level of society, and revenge is just personal justice. Justice - Societal Laws Revenge - Personal Laws Is societal even a word? Man, I have no idea. /shrug

[Half/Dreaming]

revenge, like i always say "Revenge is a dish best served cold, but who wants to eat a cold meal?" The best refenge does come after a while. Hasty retaliation is often shabby and are just glancing blows. If you take time to think about your refenge, you can incorporate irony and perfectly time it. THAT is the best revenge.

[ZNOFZ]

Rehabilitation. I have to agree with Neruo that Rehabilitation if possible is by far the best choice. But that wasn't the question and I don't believe that rehabilitation is really possible most of the time. I would say revenge. I think I pick revenge because it puts the control in the hands of the individual to carry out what he sees fit. Justice doesn't have such a good connotation in my life. What one calls just is not so to myself etc.

[Howie]

Forgiveness? DoDoBird, I agree. Revenge is a bad emotion. It should never be used as a motive. Kill them all and let god sort them out. JK

[Neruo]

I have to agree with Neruo that Rehabilitation if possible is by far the best choice. But that wasn't the question and I don't believe that rehabilitation is really possible most of the time. I would say revenge. I think I pick revenge because it puts the control in the hands of the individual to carry out what he sees fit. Justice doesn't have such a good connotation in my life. What one calls just is not so to myself etc. Strange : ) I actually said "rehabilitation" because I dislike revenge as a part of how justice works in most countries. I think it's just silly to "let someone rot in prison"/"fry in the chair" because they did something wrong, who really gets better from it? No-one. It's just more suffering. Revenge is a very, very human trait, but so is greed. Some human traits are better repressed, because in the end, I would like to see a world were suffering is minimized, including that of asshats that might want to hurt others. : /

[Howie]

Rehabilitation, Prison Terms and even execution are all costing tax payers a lot of $$$$$! Disproportionately.

[Half/Dreaming]

I think it's just silly to "let someone rot in prison"/"fry in the chair" because they did something wrong, who really gets better from it? No-one. It's just more suffering. The point is making the punishment so bad that people will be discouraged from doing crime. Prison terms and excecutions are deterants, not forms of revenge.

[Neruo]

The point is making the punishment so bad that people will be discouraged from doing crime. Prison terms and excecutions are deterants, not forms of revenge. Yeah, and introducing the death penalty always reduces crimes (it doesn't). The whole fear-idea doesn't work. Idiots will do bad stuff, and non-idiots will hopefully see "stay in jail until you certainly have stopped being an asshole" as something un-cool. I think the fear-effect of punishments is somewhat important, but the difference between 20 years and 40 years really doesn't change a criminal's mind.

[Half/Dreaming]

Im personally not a big fan of the death penalty. Not because its "inhumane" or becaue its a "form of revenge". I'm jut one of those guys that thinks getting assraped for the rest of your life is a worse punishment. Neruo, your view is hypothetical. You don't know if the death penalty deters crime or not. There's no way of measuring that.

[Neruo]

Im personally not a big fan of the death penalty. Not because its "inhumane" or becaue its a "form of revenge". I'm jut one of those guys that thinks getting assraped for the rest of your life is a worse punishment. Neruo, your view is hypothetical. You don't know if the death penalty deters crime or not. There's no way of measuring that. Damn, you never read any article or book where they pointed out the facts? Places With a death penalty don't' have less crime, and when a death penalty is introduced, crime rates don't drop. I though this was a pretty well know fact. http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/arti...ATES%20WITHOUT

[Half/Dreaming]

Still, there's no real way of proving anything. That article pointed out that many states with the death penalty had higher homicide rates than states without the death penalty. That asserts that the existence of the death penalty makes people want to committ homicide. Thats just retarded. A much more likely explainiation is that states with lower murder rates aboslished the death penalty because they felt they didn't need it, while states with high murder rates kept it as a deterent. You're probably right. Punishment really isnt a deterent. Of all the crimes I've committed I never really thought of the consequences.