It seems we are at a stalemate here.
I see the tautological nature of what you are proposing, but I still disagree with your argument. I have no objection to your first premises. I have no doubt that a person can claim to be thinking, but as soon as the person tries to make a conclusion from this they are trapped by the skeptical argument.
here is no other premises required because there is nothing else required. The conclusion does not need any more support than this.
I disagree with this though. The formulation I described in my previous post is a valid deductive argument. The argument you are describing is inductive, meaning that it cannot prove anything. The second premise that I added is required to make the argument deductive, even if it is only being used by a subject to prove existence to themselves. I think that you actually are using this argument without realising it.
the point I am trying to make is that you can think, to yourself, "I exist", and from that conclude, "I exist". There is nothing else to it besides that. You can prove to yourself that you exist by simply thinking.
Let me explain. I assume we both agree that one cannot prove existence by speaking the words 'I exist,' because a computer could be programmed to record and play back the sound of the words 'I exist.' Similarly, one cannot prove existence by writing 'I exist.' That is granted, and I know that you are not arguing this at all. What you are arguing is that the act of thinking 'I exist' proves existence. Sorry if it sounds like I'm stating the obvious here, but stay with me. So therefore, the first premise of your argument would be:
1) S ('S' here representing the subject) thinks 'I exist'
2) Therefore, S exists.
But this formulation still needs some work. What if the subject thinks 'I like spaghetti' for example? What you are arguing is that the act of thinking, no matter what the thought is, can prove existence. So we need to modify the first premise to:
1) S thinks
2) Therefore, S exists.
Again, sorry if I'm stating the obvious. I'm trying to show why the argument you are proposing actually takes the form that I explained in my last post. The above formulation seems intuitive enough, and I don't think you would protest at the above formulation. It is, however, an incomplete argument because the conclusion 2) in no way follows from the premise 1). Keep in mind that what I mean by this is that the premise 1) and the conclusion 2) when read in complete isolation, are not valid. I'll construct an analogous argument to demonstrate this:
1) S breathes.
2) Therefore, S is a 21-year-old male from Austria.
As you can see, this is an entirely invalid argument. I take it that all 21-year-old males from Austria breathe, but this doesn't mean that all breathing things are 21-year-old males from Austria. This is why the second premise is needed the Cogito argument:
1) S thinks
2) All thinking things exist
3) Therefore, S exists.
This has nothing to do with proving one's existence to other people, it is simply the correct formulation of the argument. If I were to use my thinking to prove my existence to myself, this is the argument that I must use.
Sorry to get everything caught up in logic here, and I'm not meaning to say that I know your argument better than you do yourself or anything, just that this is how the cogito argument has to be if it is to prove anything deductively. This formulation makes sure that there are no thinking unexistent things.
The reason that this argument does not defeat the skeptical argument is that it relies on reason. Every argument relies on reason. But under the skeptical argument, reason is not to be trusted. There is no way that the conclusion 3), or any other conclusion can be sound. You can think as much as you like, but for the fact that you are thinking to mean anything you have to use reason. Anytime you use a therefore, you are using reason, and because the faculty of reason is under question in the skeptical scenario, any conclusion whatsoever can not be trusted.
Even if you still disagree with my inclusion of the second premise, and even if you formulate the argument as you do in your last post:
a) I exist.
b) Therefore, I exist
You cannot be certain. Under the skeptical scenario, you could not even argue:
a) I am blue
b) Therefore, I am blue
Because all arguments rely on logical reasoning, and in this scenario reasoning is under seige.
Whatever it may be, even if your rationality is manipulated beyond belief, even if your reasoning is inauthentic, then it only means you exist, but with inauthentic reasoning.
But you have no way of knowing that thinking qualifies you for existence. It is not, like you said, a question of whether thinking things exist or not, it is a question of whether they can be shown to exist. And the cogito argument relies on reasoning to prove existence, which is inherently circular. There is no reason to believe ANY conclusion.
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