Originally Posted by
Xei
Um yes I 'get it', and in fact I spent most of the last page adressing that issue..?
And to repeat what I said, I believe that all truly true truths are objective, hence if I believe something is true I believe it is universally true.
You seem to have lost track of the argument because what you're saying makes no impact upon it. Okay, so 'good' and 'bad' are only ideas that have meaning to conscious beings. We as conscious beings agree that awareness is 'good'. Against huge odds, the universe is 'good'. Why is the universe 'good' instead of 'bad'? If good and bad only have meaning to conscious beings, then the universe itself must have been created with a conscious being which willed the 'good' to become reality. If the creator were not conscious, but a natural event with no contemplation of 'good' or 'bad', the vast likelihood is that reality would be 'bad'.