Originally Posted by Howie
Repentance, fear, empathy, guilt, sorrow, anger, joy, loathing, belief, greed, disease are all fallacious and illogical fears?
Being emotions that means that happiness, joy
pleasure, exhilaration, bliss, delight, satisfaction are also fallacies too then.
No no no. Sorry I wasn't clear.
I meant that for mentally ill people, they may experience these feelings seemingly without any reason. Their brain chemistry is harmed, and it is impossible to ease these fallacious fears(or other emotions) that they have.
Originally Posted by Howie
Contentment is a peaceful kind of happiness in which one rests without desires even though every wish may not have been gratified.
Please tell me how much money it would take to buy me these things and you will have me convinced.
• To feel the commradary, the building, the effort. glory and satisfaction one feels being involved and in and playing a vital role winning team.
Not only money. Working hard gets you places, but money makes it easier for everything else. This is why I love capitalism so much. Determination and hard work = money.
Originally Posted by Howie
• To give 100% and fall short of the other guy. He had beaten me in chess, basketball, a marathon, monopoly.
Why is this happiness?
Originally Posted by Howie
• To give your child all the things in life you did not have, send him to the best school money can buy and all the while you have failed to recognize that none of these things have not only prevented and protected him from but been the cause of his drug addiction. An addiction created. One that will burden him the rest of his life, rehabilitated or not. Rehabilitated being the best case scenario.
I don't know what to say here. It's like asking me:
"You give your child everything but he still goes wrong, due to money. What are you going to do about it?"
Or more simplified:
"Money fails you. There's nothing you can do. Solve this problem."
It's a loaded question, It's impossible to answer. If the situation arose, due to the constraints of the question there's nothing I can do about it.
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• You have now all the money to provide you with all the time and tools you could ever need to fulfill your dreams, to be ?? famous. A recognized artist. The talented tennis player, "the" guitarist.
Ok. So you work hard, and practice? I think using money and working hard towards your goals will give you happiness.
Originally Posted by Howie
Some of these things we simply can't achieve with OR without money. All these things we can be happy without. None of these things can be truly fulfilled by money. As close as you think you may come via the way of money can not trick the psyche in the long run that it was you that has given you this happiness, which is my entire point.
I can buy the intimidating grizzle mounted in my expensive den but know that I will never be the hunter that could get this bear. I could buy guide, not the guts.
Exactly. Simply throwing money at people won't get you happiness. Not only do you have to use it, but you have to work hard, too. Satisfaction comes from doing things yourself.
Now what about everything else? Do you like feeding the poor? Trying to find diseases for AIDS, terminal cancer, whatever? I think these are great things that can only be accomplished with money that make many people happy. These are only able to be done with not just with money, but by WORKING as well.
Originally Posted by Howie
That is unless you can find a way to be happy with what is. Which in that equation does not include money.
Yes I can be happy without money. But money can give you happiness easier, more of it, and as much as you want. I can get ultimate happiness from money.
I think I understand what you are trying to say about not needing money to be happy. That's it's just "a frame of mind". Which is true, happiness is all in your head. But deciding to feel happy pales in comparison to actually feeling it without forcing it, to feel euphoria in the act of doing things. I know I would rather go on a roller coaster and feel euphoric than remember going on a roller coaster and the euphoria I felt. How about you?
Originally Posted by Howie
Are there any of these things Grod in your life. How would you yourself buy them?
A few of those examples were unanswerable. But granted, some of them I couldn't buy. Does this mean they are the only path to happiness? Let's see some of the things that can make you happy through money:
- Funding research for cures for diseases
- Relieving impoverished people
- Paying workers to improve on community service
- Gaining higher education
- Feeding the homeless, giving them homes etc.
The list goes on. All of these are noble actions that can be done with money. Those are just a few things that will make you happy with money. Would you rather "switch your mind from contentment to happiness"? Or would you go out and be doing things that make not only you happy, but others as well? You could do these without money, but it makes it much easier to accomplish and set effective goals to better yourself and others.
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