Thread: Love

Okay, i need to rephrase.Every action that has meaning behind it is motivated in some way or another by love.It is possible that those people didn't care about what they were doing, emitting no emotion, therefore their action to you has no meaning.That i think describes their situation.However if they cared about what they were doing it was motivated by their frustration of not being loved enough.

Juroara i completely agree with you.

Originally Posted by ray

Okay, i need to rephrase.Every action that has meaning behind it is motivated in some way or another by love.It is possible that those people didn't care about what they were doing, emitting no emotion, therefore their action to you has no meaning.That i think describes their situation.However if they cared about what they were doing it was motivated by their frustration of not being loved enough.

If you want to be vague as such you could connect the same nonexistent dots with any other emotion.

love is beautiful....except between a homosexual couple....then its just evil.

but on a serious note, maybe love is just an umbrella term that describes other emotions or mindsets like respect, understanding, encouragement, sexual attraction, shared bonds and experiences. Love seems to have evolved into a more (or very) complex emotion....so, unlike Seismosaur, I wouldnt say that it is no different from anger of fright, which are very primative emotions


so maybe uniquely human? im not sure. While on the subject of emotions have any other animals exhibited mercy or remorse? always wanted to know that too

Yes, other mammals have shown remorse, mourning, mercy, etc.

Love.

And love is a sexual attraction. Nothing more.

When you make it more than that it is no longer an emotion.

Originally Posted by Seismosaur

Yes, other mammals have shown remorse, mourning, mercy, etc.

Love.

And love is a sexual attraction. Nothing more.

When you make it more than that it is no longer an emotion.

That's something to laugh at.

Originally Posted by Jdeadevil

That's something to laugh at.

I don't see how.

Once you incorporate anything other than sexual attraction into 'love'; it isn't an emotion anymore.

Well I'm sure love is definately more than just sexual attraction, I mean come on.....

Not if it is an emotion it isn't.

Humans are animals. We live to breed. We breed through sexual intercourse. "Love" is an emotion of the expression of that. A chemical reaction of hormones and pheremones, etc.

That's it.

Hmm, okay, guess I can't argue with that. Very scientific of you to say that, I must say.

For the narrowest definition of love perhaps. Humans are animals indeed, but that doesn't mean we can reduce everything that humans have to general animal behaviour; clearly we have advanced far beyond other species, so it is not unreasonable to think that our emotions have advanced also.

In my opinion true romantic love is also about finding somebody who is perfect for you, but in many relationships there are other elements which aren't really true.

Human perception of the concept of prefferable personality, etc. Aren't apart of the emotion called love.

That is the "thought" or "mindset" of it.

Funny, this thread started off as someone giving quite the beautiful comment about love. And now what is it? Seismosaur with a lab coat on depressing us all by giving out scientific evidence that love is just attraction.



For shame mate, for shame.

Originally Posted by Seismosaur

Yes, other mammals have shown remorse, mourning, mercy, etc.

really? hm, pretty interesting.
any examples?

Originally Posted by Seismosaur

And love is a sexual attraction. Nothing more.

When you make it more than that it is no longer an emotion.

what?

so when someone mourns over the death of their wife or husband it is because they can no longer have sex with them? you cant seriously say that love is 100% sexual attraction.

Originally Posted by Jdeadevil

Funny, this thread started off as someone giving quite the beautiful comment about love. And now what is it? Seismosaur with a lab coat on depressing us all by giving out scientific evidence that love is just attraction.



For shame mate, for shame.

That's nice.

Maybe I should just tell everyone exactly what they want to hear? This is in the Philosophy section.

Originally Posted by Matt5678

really? hm, pretty interesting.
any examples?





what?

so when someone mourns over the death of their wife or husband it is because they can no longer have sex with them? you cant seriously say that love is 100% sexual attraction.

1. Yea, in gorillas and Dolphins I believe those behaviors have been observed.

2. No. That isn't the emotion e are talking about, which is what I was talking about.

Love as an emotion is merely attraction. Usually sexual attraction.

Love as a thought or action is a combinationof emotions and thoughts.

...Making it a thought. Not an emotion.

That's what I was saying.

Originally Posted by Seismosaur

That's nice.

'tis

Originally Posted by Seismosaur

1. Yea, in gorillas and Dolphins I believe those behaviors have been observed.

I dont know why i asked for remorse. Its hard to observe if a dolphin was reeeeeeally sorry after he ate that fish his friend wanted. But mercy could be observed more easily i suppose....although i have never read anything about it. but indeed interesting

Originally Posted by Seismosaur

2. No. That isn't the emotion e are talking about, which is what I was talking about.

Love as an emotion is merely attraction. Usually sexual attraction.

Love as a thought or action is a combinationof emotions and thoughts.

...Making it a thought. Not an emotion.

That's what I was saying.

a little confusing, but ill try to get something out of it. correct me if you think im wrong

first you said above "love as an emotion is usually sexual attraction." but above that you said that it is nothing but sexual attraction. are you just rephrasing to sound less absolute?

when we are talking about love, we really have to specify what kind of love. obviously they cannot all be sexual attraction. you may love your grandfather but wouldnt a have sexual attraction to him. love comes in different forms for friends, children, spouses and every other kind of relationship. SO, would you say that love is only an emotion when shared between spouses?

this is where i think it gets complex and very intriguing....the same basic emotion for many different kinds relationships.

You're thinking of different types of the idea of love.

I ammended myself that love is not nothing but sexual attraction, it is mostly chemical attraction. As an emotion that is felt.

As an idea that is expressed it is as complex as it is made to be.

But that's not what I'm talking about. The idea or thought of 'love' is pretty much where the word is broken up to leave room for the liking of other things, animals, etc. Ideas.

Not the emotion, however.

so you are merely talking about the specific love of sexual attraction? not the other interpretations of love or the many other forms it takes

the purely animalistic love. (if you want to call it that). But, then why not just call it sexual attraction?

Because that is what we call the emotion.

"Love".

I have an argument to make in the case of love.

It's absolutely unbearable and utterly miserable. Of the worst plagues to ever hit this planet the very epitome is represented by words like war, famine, disease and love. Typically, the bundle of consciousness people refer to as your soul simply isn't developed enough to handle the intense, unmagnituded energy that comes with pure, raw, real love. It only happens once every 3 or 4 lifetimes and only works out once every... 40ish lifetimes.

People that think they have felt the depths of love, be warned. You don't know what suffering means. Even when they love you back (which they always do in real love though occasionally they block it out because it's too intense to handle), some way or another you find a way to suffer. That's why the spiritual path is so important.

"Plague"? 'Love' is the thing that keeps people rolling out more!

All yoooouuu neeed iiiiiis loooooOOOOooooooveee!

I like it but it's far too little love here in the world and in my life.

As far as I can tell you're essentialy saying love is just the driving force for procreation.

Which is true, it drives life. It bonds peole together to raise kids together, the stronger the two like each other, typically the healthier the kids. Evolutionarily speaking, what's the most important emotion in the whole universe? The rule of thumb on what life forms could compete better is pretty much this: the stronger the bonds between our loved ones, the better. Hence, we our born with this in our DNA, this yearning to find someone who's our compliment, our long lost companion.

It's practically a law, the stronger we feel attached to our loved ones, the better chances they have of survival, the only point when this emotion is too potent is when we are driven insane by it, and unfortunately a few people are born with their genetic system set a certain way that they are put over that brink. In the end, it is so god damned rare to find someone you can survive love with. It seems no one else really adds up right.

Here's the key to understanding how you can find someone on your level so you can survive this horrible ordeal they call love. Life is essentially a series of lessons that keep going until you die. When you get into a relationship, if you learn from her and vice versa, you guys are on different levels. If you learn with her, you're on the same level and are more compatible. It's hard to decipher the difference right away, but typically when girl on the exact level as you comes along, the feeling hits you within the first few moments you meet them of familiarity. Not all familiar feelings are from your twin souls, though, so the best thing to do is just honestly ask yourself if you have a choice whether or not to give them your whole heart, and if you have a choice, then don't.