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      YOU'RE NOT REAL!

      My friend and I were talking tonight about a wide variety of issues, and eventually we came on the subject of life being a dream. Basically, we had this idea that perhaps everything, everyone, et al; and we realised that if all of you, if everything were in fact the figment of my imagination, I would be the sole creator of existance. Likewise, perhaps you're to sole creator of existance. But I mean, I know I'm real, because I know I'm conscious. Tell me, what's it like to be a figment of my imagination? Since you're not real, will you have any kind of sex with me I want?
      Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is mearly energy condensed through a slow vibration, we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, life is only a dream and we are the imaginations of ourselves. - Bill Hicks

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      Hmmm... I'm real, I know I'm conscious, and you're just a DC with the sole mission of getting my attention with this thread and opening up my mind, the only existing mind, to the possible truth.


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      You can spend years debating about these kinds of ideas without ever really coming to any conclusions, but one thing I've learned is that you have to be very careful when you are using the word "real". There's nothing that contributes more to meaningless philosophical meanderings than the over-use of words like "real", "really" and "reality". What could it possibly mean to say "that isn't real" about something? As far as I can tell, you're not saying anything more than "that isn't what I thought it was". For example, suppose you see a cat on your floor, but then you kick it and realize it's a toy. You say, "Aha, it wasn't real." But it is REAL. It exists, it's there, you can touch it. It's just not what you expected it to be. Similarly, people have argued that we can't even be sure if we are real ourselves because we could just be figments of some god-like being's imagination. But I fail to see how that makes us "not real". Surely we exist in some sense, or else we wouldn't even be asking these questions. Perhaps it's not the sense we expect it to be, perhaps it's not the sense we'd like it to be, but it is some sense.

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      Maybe our senses innately can't detect our origin and that's just part of our reality and when we die we'll be released back to the astral plane again. Or mabye I need to keep my imagination in check.
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      Well if life is a dream why cant i then levitate a car like in my lucid dreams?

      If i make myself empty of thoughts in my dream all stops, it freeze frames. But in real life well lets say that doesnt work that way.
      Also when i close my eyes in my dreams in wake up, mm in real life i fall a sleep from doing that

      If life is a dream what happens then when you wake up from it?
      Your Dreams are Truly Yours!

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      I once had a mushroom trip where I came to the conclusion that I created my whole universe..everything you can imagine"THoguht, matter,life existence" I made up, and I thought I was really jsut completely insane and made it up and it felt like I just suddenty realized it. But what's real? Eh...who cares whats real or whats not or whats this way or that way. IM done with insanity and all that matters to me is my experience.
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      i think every single conscious being has their own universe created from their own preconceptions, thoughts etc..

      ie we can all be in one room, at one moment in time, but each of us experiences an entirely different reality.

      i believe my universe, the whole of it, was created by me. but that doesnt mean your a figment of my imagination, you are real, what i percieve you to be is in my head, but your consciousness, has its own unique reality aswell.
      a child's rhyme stuck in my head
      it said life is but a dream
      i spent so many years in question
      to find i known this all along..

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      Everybody stop messing with me, you know none of you are real. If you want to trick me into believing it's real, it won't work.

      Wouldn't it be weird if you knew that this was a dream right now? But it acted like reality and everybody figured you to be insane?

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      Nice try everyone, but you're not fooling me.
      Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is mearly energy condensed through a slow vibration, we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, life is only a dream and we are the imaginations of ourselves. - Bill Hicks

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      Actually, I believe that the way we view the rest of the world is a reflection of ourselves. "Is the glass half full or half empty?" The degree of our own realness is dependent on our own individual capacity to see the realness in the world around us. Your inability to see the realness in others, is a reflection of your own inability to see you own realness.

      If life is a dream what happens then when you wake up from it?[/b]
      Maybe you achieve enlightenment.

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      Isn't this sopilism? Or perhaps it's a variation of it. There's a topic about it somewhere in this section.

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      I think these kinds of threads are stupid. These are questions I would ask myself when little. How is it that people are not so bright enough to know what real is. Must be drugs.

      And MICcheck, If its not drugs, then you need a girlfriend.
      When I dream, theres always a
      little girl playing in the dirt, that
      turns to me and says "Why are
      you here? .... Are you blind like
      me?"

      What I've found
      What I've known
      Never shined to me what I've shown
      Never be
      Never free
      I wish to see what might have been...
      ...So I talk to you unbeliever.

      I walk in the rain. 1111

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      Actually YOUR post was the most unintelligent, self-assuming, closed minded post I have read since coming onto these forums. But then an apple is an apple. Things are exactly as they seem. What you describe as Real is the only Real right?
      a child's rhyme stuck in my head
      it said life is but a dream
      i spent so many years in question
      to find i known this all along..

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      Well said Nebulae.
      Ask and you shall know.

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      Originally posted by LucidApple
      If life is a dream what happens then when you wake up from it?
      you die
      entering this "masively shared dream" is birth and waking up is death i have solved the riddle of the universe
      you can't do that on the internet!.... wait yes you can do it again!

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      Originally posted by anglicus
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      how does that work? guest? was the account deleted?


      Anyway, I know you're only not being fooled because you are a .chr file on my computer .
      [22:59] <Kaniaz> You basically did a massive shit on the rug of this IRC
      [22:59] <Kaniaz> And called it a message

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