Objectively good is a bit of a oxymoron. In objective terms, one would be using profit/loss as opposed to good/bad, as profit/loss is easier to evaluate and define. |
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I had this weird thought yesterday. Most of us fear death, we avoid it, and we are saddened when others experience it. But is our fear of death a 'rational' thing, or is it simply an evolutionary adaptation (no IDiots in this thread please, by the way)? Obviously giving an organism a mental drive to escape danger is obviously a very advantageous adaptation. We normally see consciousness as being the 'ultimate moral goodness', but are morals objective: do we only think that consciousness is good because we are programmed to think that its destroyal is bad, or do we think this due to an 'understanding' that perceiving qualia as opposed to perceiving nothing is objectively good? |
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Objectively good is a bit of a oxymoron. In objective terms, one would be using profit/loss as opposed to good/bad, as profit/loss is easier to evaluate and define. |
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Is the main theme of the OP something along the lines of is there such a thing as innate importance? |
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I think most people associate death with actually dying which unless your lucky enough to die in your sleep or something nearly always involves a level of suffering, pain and/or tragedy. If we all died peacfully and are healthy up to that point maybe we would look at it differently, and could maybe begin to belive that it`s a good thing. |
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If you have a sense of caring for others, you will manifest a kind of inner strength in spite of your own difficulties and problems. With this strength, your own problems will seem less significant and bothersome to you. By going beyond your own problems and taking care of others, you gain inner strength, self-confidence, courage, and a greater sense of calm.Dalai Lama
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We spend our lives avoiding pain,hurt and devestation, and yes some might say that its just a instinct instilled in us for so long that we have come to fear it rather than embrace it. But quite honestly why would we? If we were meant to be hurt ourselves our bodys wouldnt be created to avoid it,If u burn your hand on the oven, you pull your hand away instantly without even time to think about what your doing, Your nervous system is made that way, And unless there is scientific proof which suggests that at some stage before/during human evolution we didnt have this kind of nervous system, I dont honestly belive anyone could say we have evolved to fear and avoid hurt, rather than just following the lead of our bodys. So it makes no sense at all that we would look forward to death, the one time in our lifes that we accept probably will inflict pain. |
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Reflexes are very different from responses controlled by the CNS and complex emotional states such as fear. Reflexes really involve no consciousness at all. |
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I answer the question "Is it wrong to kill someone" with another question: "Is it right to take a life that is not yours?" |
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I don't mean to be confrontational, just pointing out that there are many times in life that we accept will inflict pain, both physical and emotional: other peoples' deaths, for instance. No, we don't look forward to them, but death is not so unique as life experiences go. There's very little that an ordinary person with emotional ties and habits to support will do in their life that they don't accept the risk of great pain and the certainty of some. |
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If you have a sense of caring for others, you will manifest a kind of inner strength in spite of your own difficulties and problems. With this strength, your own problems will seem less significant and bothersome to you. By going beyond your own problems and taking care of others, you gain inner strength, self-confidence, courage, and a greater sense of calm.Dalai Lama
I'm pretty sure we don't fear dying because it hurts. We fear dying because it destroys our consciousness. |
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Have you ever heard of that species of african elepant that would throw themselves off of cliffs randomly? |
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Am I wrong to be sensing a punchline here? |
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Answer the question it will reveal to you the answer to your question here |
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No dear Seismosaur, I haven't ever heard of that species of african elepant that would throw themselves off of cliffs randomly. Please do say something more about them for the sake of my curiosity. |
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Well because they're all dead. |
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When I first thought of death...I thought of not having any of the 5 senses, and not having the sense of life. |
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Not really, those people deprived of their senses still have thoughts, which you don't have when you're dead. |
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Yeah, you still know your alive because you can think. |
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Actually, "destroys our consciousness" is awfully abstract. I suspect what people fear as death draws near are the specific losses of experiences to which they're attached: cherished ideas, the senses, time with loved ones, personal rituals and favored tasks. |
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If you have a sense of caring for others, you will manifest a kind of inner strength in spite of your own difficulties and problems. With this strength, your own problems will seem less significant and bothersome to you. By going beyond your own problems and taking care of others, you gain inner strength, self-confidence, courage, and a greater sense of calm.Dalai Lama
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For me personally death is a bad thing. I see no point in dying. |
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