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      Quote Originally Posted by ChaybaChayba View Post
      Yeah, you're so right, energy is total bullshit man. Who the hell came up with that idea? It should be banned from all use forever. We should also take another look at the mathematical proof that all matter is energy, e=mc², what did Einstein know? Lol this guy talking about energy, he must be crazy!
      Yes, you were so right picking out that one irrelevant part of my post. Because Einstein would completely agree with the 'energy' of feng shui. The 'energy' of 'healing stones'. The 'energy' of the 'soul'. The 'energy' that Venus gives you when it is near the constellation of Leo. Man, would Einstein say "Yo homie, that is totally the way energy works!", or what? Hell yea he would! Einstein would just love that 'spiritual energy' new-age people talk about. That 'energy' of the ground. Man. The 'energy' of Chi, and the 'energy' of crystals.

      Einstein would Totally dig that stuff. Okay, it all isn't scientific in any way, but Einstein could look past the lack of all that way unnecessary 'scientific method' stuff. Right? Hell yeah.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Neruo View Post
      Yes, you were so right picking out that one irrelevant part of my post. Because Einstein would completely agree with the 'energy' of feng shui. The 'energy' of 'healing stones'. The 'energy' of the 'soul'. The 'energy' that Venus gives you when it is near the constellation of Leo. Man, would Einstein say "Yo homie, that is totally the way energy works!", or what? Hell yea he would! Einstein would just love that 'spiritual energy' new-age people talk about. That 'energy' of the ground. Man. The 'energy' of Chi, and the 'energy' of crystals.
      "Energy" is simply an overused word, like "God". You need to put these words into context.

      The "energy" of the sun is composed of thermal, nuclear, and electromagnetic energy. The "energy" of the soul is "love". The "energy" of music can be seen objectively as its textures, or subjectively as its inspiration and feel.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Xei View Post
      No.
      Baseless?

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      Quote Originally Posted by really View Post
      Baseless?
      Exactly, the baselessness and unfoundedness of your ideas is probably why he said 'no'.
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      Don't be so hard on yourselves...

      What you are looking for is what is looking...

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      Quote Originally Posted by Neruo View Post
      Exactly, the baselessness and unfoundedness of your ideas is probably why he said 'no'.
      I'm not sure, it could be anything at this stage.

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      Just out of curiousity, how many perfect circles have people drawn without stencils?

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      Quote Originally Posted by NeoSioType View Post
      Just out of curiousity, how many perfect circles have people drawn without stencils?
      Perfection is unconditional in this context.

      But, why not ask if your stencils have perfect circles?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Cyclic13 View Post
      Don't be so hard on yourselves...

      What you are looking for is what is looking...
      So thats where I put it.

      But, honestly what is baseless about really's claim. It makes perfect sense to me. The energy that powers my body is not the same that powers a car. Are you trying to say that there is only one kind of energy?
      157 is a prime number. The next prime is 163 and the previous prime is 151, which with 157 form a sexy prime triplet. Taking the arithmetic mean of those primes yields 157, thus it is a balanced prime.

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      The paradoxical irony of one's criticism is...

      Baselessness is the basis on which all things are based...

      Something from nothing... if you will...



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      Quote Originally Posted by stonedape View Post
      So thats where I put it.

      But, honestly what is baseless about really's claim. It makes perfect sense to me. The energy that powers my body is not the same that powers a car. Are you trying to say that there is only one kind of energy?
      No, I am saying claims like "The energy of the soul is love" are complete bullshit. Don't tell me you haven't noticed the love new-age retards have for the word 'energy'?

      But really, is the claim "the energy of the soul is love" based on anything but some childish pseudo-physiological thoughts? Do you think this 'really' guy has the slightest of knowledge about the human brain, neurology, psychology, and things you would normally need to have to make a claim about the essence of the human mind? No. 'Really' is a complete non-scientific retard that needs to go to university, or maybe even a proper high-school, and drop his simple-minded ideas that are not founded on anything at all, but pulled out of their made-up and wished-for metaphysical butthole. Have you ever seen never or any of these new-age wankers make the slightest effort of presenting arguments for their case that are not themselves new-age dogmas? There is a good reason why among people that make their jobs out of finding out truth, scientists, there are no hippy-jokers like 'really' around, their made-up ideas have nothing to stand on. I might just as well try to convince physicists gravity is actually caused by invisible gnomes pulling stuff to celestial bodies, and I know this for sure because I felt the 'energy' of those gnomes and I just know it.

      Or do you believe 'really' will one day be a great scientist? If his claims are so true, and if he arrived at them by good unbiased reasons, he will have no problem convincing others with his great reasons of why he is right. Thus revolutionising science.

      Probably 'really' will either grow up and drop his nonsense, run a bong-shop, or go on welfare.
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      It is based on experience. If you do not acknowledge the existance of a soul, you can not experience it. I don't see how so many people come to the same conclusion as really if he's just making it up.

      Scientists study the physical. Philosophers study reality. There's more to life than science my friend.
      157 is a prime number. The next prime is 163 and the previous prime is 151, which with 157 form a sexy prime triplet. Taking the arithmetic mean of those primes yields 157, thus it is a balanced prime.

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      Quote Originally Posted by stonedape View Post
      It is based on experience. If you do not acknowledge the existance of a soul, you can not experience it. I don't see how so many people come to the same conclusion as really if he's just making it up.

      Scientists study the physical. Philosophers study reality. There's more to life than science my friend.
      I actually study philosophy at the moment, and there are quite some philosophers these days that believe that everything is in the end (directly resulting from) matter.

      Why could only someone that 'acknowledge the existence of a soul' experience it? Why should it work like that? That sounds like the standard 'only Christians/Muslims can truly feel god/allah' defence. Also, believing in the (immortality of) the soul isn't all that strange, and there are evolutionary/cultural theories on why exactly people believe in souls. It isn't true because a great deal of people believe it is so. A great deal of people at some point in the history of the world believed in astrology. And why not? They look special, they must be special, is the reasoning. And it doesn't harm assuming stars predict your future. Might even be a pleasant way to make hard decisions. Same with souls. The way our mind handles thinking about other people is structured in such a way that believing 'they are still there' when they are dead isn't so strange. And it doesn't really hurt you, from an evolutionary / cultural-succes perspective. A group that feels as if their ancestors is looking over them might even be more successful and structured than a group of people that don't believe that.
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      Everything that you see, smell, taste, or touch can be explained by the phsical, but that does not mean that there isn't anything spiritual.

      What I mean is that you have to open your mind to the possiblity, or you won't experience it. Beliefs effect your perception, you should know this from science.

      But I don't think that when you die your soul is still there. Reincarnation is far more complex than that. Far more than I initially thought and I still don't fully understand it yet. I think it has a lot to do with weather or not time is "real". But you don't seem to like metaphysics so I don't know if I can properly explain it.http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...t=64828&page=3
      157 is a prime number. The next prime is 163 and the previous prime is 151, which with 157 form a sexy prime triplet. Taking the arithmetic mean of those primes yields 157, thus it is a balanced prime.

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      Quote Originally Posted by stonedape View Post
      Everything that you see, smell, taste, or touch can be explained by the phsical, but that does not mean that there isn't anything spiritual.

      What I mean is that you have to open your mind to the possiblity, or you won't experience it. Beliefs effect your perception, you should know this from science.

      But I don't think that when you die your soul is still there. Reincarnation is far more complex than that. Far more than I initially thought and I still don't fully understand it yet. I think it has a lot to do with weather or not time is "real". But you don't seem to like metaphysics so I don't know if I can properly explain it.http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...t=64828&page=3
      So if I believe in the existence of the soul, and feel something from inside, that means souls exist? What about people that feel god, Allah, Vishnu, the holy ghost, the magical workings of their 'healing stones', the magical workings of acupuncture, the magical workings of feng shui.

      Is that all as real too, because people believe it and feel it? If anything, be sceptical about something that only 'believers' can feel.
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      I've spent enough time being skeptical. I was an aetheist for 3 years. People who believe these things usually just don't have an accurate way of describing their experience so they say God did it.

      I've had an OBE, thats enough proof for me.
      157 is a prime number. The next prime is 163 and the previous prime is 151, which with 157 form a sexy prime triplet. Taking the arithmetic mean of those primes yields 157, thus it is a balanced prime.

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      I think as advanced as the field of science is, it will never have all the answers to all of our questions. So I don't limit myself to just scientific reasoning for all my questions. Science has a time and a place for its use, and that certainly isn't all the time and everywhere.
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      Listen up:

      Energy is quite real. It exists as resultant chemicals found in the brain through computations performed by the hippocamus.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Neruo View Post
      No, I am saying claims like "The energy of the soul is love" are complete bullshit. Don't tell me you haven't noticed the love new-age retards have for the word 'energy'?
      Who cares what it's called? A name is just a symbol!

      Quote Originally Posted by Neruo View Post
      But really, is the claim "the energy of the soul is love" based on anything but some childish pseudo-physiological thoughts?
      It's based on the understandings of the psych/psychology, brain physiology, the ego, spirituality, and thus, in essence: the field of subjectivity.

      Quote Originally Posted by Neruo View Post
      Do you think this 'really' guy has the slightest of knowledge about the human brain, neurology, psychology, and things you would normally need to have to make a claim about the essence of the human mind?
      You might be very surprised. Stop judging by appearances.

      Quote Originally Posted by Neruo View Post
      No. 'Really' is a complete non-scientific retard that needs to go to university, or maybe even a proper high-school, and drop his simple-minded ideas that are not founded on anything at all, but pulled out of their made-up and wished-for metaphysical butthole. Have you ever seen never or any of these new-age wankers make the slightest effort of presenting arguments for their case that are not themselves new-age dogmas? There is a good reason why among people that make their jobs out of finding out truth, scientists, there are no hippy-jokers like 'really' around, their made-up ideas have nothing to stand on. I might just as well try to convince physicists gravity is actually caused by invisible gnomes pulling stuff to celestial bodies, and I know this for sure because I felt the 'energy' of those gnomes and I just know it.
      The spiritual understanding is quite different from worldly understanding. As I have mentioned quite a lot in this forum, it is very useful to understand the mind before searching for higher truths which are beyond the mind.

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      Or do you believe 'really' will one day be a great scientist? If his claims are so true, and if he arrived at them by good unbiased reasons, he will have no problem convincing others with his great reasons of why he is right. Thus revolutionising science.
      Since a lot of these expressions have always been true, it really won't change anything. Besides, it is not in the domain of science; science has nothing to do with it. It is all quite simple.

      Stop wondering about what I'll become. All Is Perfect, when things change, they move from Perfect to Perfect. So, even your "wondering" is perfect, but you do not realize this.

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      Why could only someone that 'acknowledge the existence of a soul' experience it? Why should it work like that?
      Again, it's quite simple. You cannot expect to reveal what is true through ignorance of what is true.

      Quote Originally Posted by Neruo View Post
      That sounds like the standard 'only Christians/Muslims can truly feel god/allah' defence. Also, believing in the (immortality of) the soul isn't all that strange, and there are evolutionary/cultural theories on why exactly people believe in souls. It isn't true because a great deal of people believe it is so. A great deal of people at some point in the history of the world believed in astrology. And why not? They look special, they must be special, is the reasoning. And it doesn't harm assuming stars predict your future. Might even be a pleasant way to make hard decisions. Same with souls. The way our mind handles thinking about other people is structured in such a way that believing 'they are still there' when they are dead isn't so strange. And it doesn't really hurt you, from an evolutionary / cultural-succes perspective. A group that feels as if their ancestors is looking over them might even be more successful and structured than a group of people that don't believe that.
      There is a lot of dogma and confused believers and non-believers out there, so it is recommended to maturely do a lot of wise research. The only thing that matters is what is essential.

      Quote Originally Posted by stonedape View Post
      I've had an OBE, thats enough proof for me.
      There you are! Such are very transformative experiences, similar to near-death experiences.
      Last edited by really; 09-08-2008 at 10:31 AM.

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      Quote Originally Posted by really View Post
      Who cares what it's called? A name is just a symbol!



      It's based on the understandings of the psych/psychology, brain physiology, the ego, spirituality, and thus, in essence: the field of subjectivity.



      You might be very surprised. Stop judging by appearances.



      The spiritual understanding is quite different from worldly understanding. As I have mentioned quite a lot in this forum, it is very useful to understand the mind before searching for higher truths which are beyond the mind.



      Since a lot of these expressions have always been true, it really won't change anything. Besides, it is not in the domain of science; science has nothing to do with it. It is all quite simple.

      Stop wondering about what I'll become. All Is Perfect, when things change, they move from Perfect to Perfect. So, even your "wondering" is perfect, but you do not realize this.



      Again, it's quite simple. You cannot expect to reveal what is true through ignorance of what is true.



      There is a lot of dogma and confused believers and non-believers out there, so it is recommended to maturely do a lot of wise research. The only thing that matters is what is essential.



      There you are! Such are very transformative experiences, similar to near-death experiences.
      All is not perfect. ALL IS THE OSTENSIVELY BLUE FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER

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      Even that is Perfect.

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      Quote Originally Posted by really View Post
      Even that is Perfect.
      I Don't (Do Not) like it when RANDOM FORUM GOERS redefinine the parameters of a commonly known word...

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      Quote Originally Posted by TransientOcclusion View Post
      I Don't (Do Not) like it when RANDOM FORUM GOERS redefinine the parameters of a commonly known word...
      Tough titty.

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      Quote Originally Posted by TransientOcclusion View Post
      I Don't (Do Not) like it when RANDOM FORUM GOERS redefinine the parameters of a commonly known word...
      While it may be a commonly known word. It has many common uses, each of them slightly different. Words are only there to help us express our thoughts, if you do not understand the use of one, ask how it is being used and I'm sure someone will tell you how it's being used in this context.
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